I'm here, I'm confused,ex smoker

[Nocigtax]

The cigarette tax finally pushed me off the fence. Governor is pushing for yet an addition $1 per pack on the already absurd tax. I have smoked since I was 12 and consider myself a hard core addict. Many attempts to quit made and failed. I went electronic on March 17 this year.

Big learning curve! My first obstacle was getting strong enough juice. Locally the vap shops offer 2.4mg/ml as the strongest nicotine concentration. This was simply not cutting it. I found this site while researching DIY juice so I could mix up something that can keep the beast caged. I like tobacco and coffee mixed together from Atmos and wanted to bring it up to 3.3mg/ml. I couldn't help but notice there is a lack of convention in the vaping community when it comes to specifying amounts. The use of drops is as specific as a pinch of this or a dab of that. Then there is the 24 strength? As in 24mg/10ml. Plus you have % of this to % of that. I'm no chemist but I understand that units of measure need to be standardized in order to get standard results. Particularly when you are going to inhale these results!

Much to learn.

 

[CreepyLady]

Hi and Welcome to ECF

We use percentages because that way, its irrelevant how big your batch size it. The recipe can be duplicated identically regardless. Use a calculator like this e-Liquid Calculator :: New recipe or ejuicemeup. You plug in the details and percentages for flavors, your target nic level and batch size - it converts everything into precise amounts for you.

 

[Bontasia]

There is a to to learn!

Also welcome to ECF.

I'm a diehard Mt Baker Vapor fan but I do understand the need for stronger nicotine levels when you're first starting out.

I can recommend ecblends as a place to order e-liquid from in 36mg strength. I've ordered from them once before and it was a good experience all around. Their prices are a bit higher than MBV but still affordable and you can get 5ml bottles to have small samples.

My boyfriend loves their dragon line and they also have an option to fully customize your flavor in every possible way.

Good luck!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Bontasia]

Oh also as far as the percentages I think you're mainly going to see that in relation to PG and VG.

PG carries flavor and provides throat hit and VG provides the lovely vapor.

Also keep in mind that nicotine contributes to throat hit too so if you are going for 24+mg of nicotine you may wanna go with a higher VG blend


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Nocigtax]

I guess a good conversion calculator would help. What % of nicotine is there in a 2.4mg/ml solution of nicotine and VG?

 

[CapitalSigma]

I guess a good conversion calculator would help. What % of nicotine is there in a 2.4mg/ml solution of nicotine and VG?

It depends on the concentration of your nicotine.

 

[Spazmelda]

Hey there nocigtax.

24 mg/ml is the same as 2.4%
18 mg/ml would be 1.8%

It's calculated in weight/volume percent, so it would be weight in grams/volume in ml x 100.

So 24 mg/ml converted to grams, would be .024g/ml, multiply x 100 to get the weight/volume percent.

.024 g / 1 ml x 100 = 2.4%

Probably more than you need to know, but weight/volume percentages are kind of confusing because they mix different units in the numerator and denominator.

 

[Bontasia]

Hey there nocigtax.

24 mg/ml is the same as 2.4%
18 mg/ml would be 1.8%

It's calculated in weight/volume percent, so it would be weight in grams/volume in ml x 100.

So 24 mg/ml converted to grams, would be .024g/ml, multiply x 100 to get the weight/volume percent.

.024 g / 1 ml x 100 = 2.4%

Probably more than you need to know, but weight/volume percentages are kind of confusing because they mix different units in the numerator and denominator.

I was JUST about to post this same thing.

Not really. I have no idea what that means and now my brain hurts. =p


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Ripshod]

Got me thinking now. I was always under the impression that you simply divide the mg/ml by 10. So 2.4mg/ml=0.24%. Am I wrong?

*edit* Late again

 

[Mogy]

A 2.4% mg/ml content of nicotine means a 10ml bottle of 2.4% mg/ml nicotine e-liquid would have 24mg nicotine.. now nicotine does enter into the body different from smoking so inhalation technique can also play a role in getting nicotine into the system. it does not hit you as fast as it did from smoking as vapor denser than smoke and therefore your lungs does not absorb it the same as it does cigarette smoke and nicotine is mainly absorbed from mouth and nose.

Cigarettes also have additives that make smoking them more addictive and some people need these http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/230570-wta-e-liquid-issues.html

also for me part of making vaping work for me was to find the right delivery system..

Good luck on your journey of finding the best vape.

 

[Nocigtax]

Hey there nocigtax.

24 mg/ml is the same as 2.4%
18 mg/ml would be 1.8%

It's calculated in weight/volume percent, so it would be weight in grams/volume in ml x 100.



So 24 mg/ml converted to grams, would be .024g/ml, multiply x 100 to get the weight/volume percent.

.024 g / 1 ml x 100 = 2.4%

Probably more than you need to know, but weight/volume percentages are kind of confusing because they mix different units in the numerator and denominator.

Nope that was exactly what I needed to know. Thank you sir. Now I wonder what it is I have mixed up..... Maybe you know off the top of your head. My brain is shorting out. I mixed 6ml of Atmos tobacco with 6ml of Atmos coffee, both 2.4% then added 2ml of 10% nicotine in VG.

 

[Spazmelda]

Okay, so you have 12 ml of 24 mg/ml + 2ml of 100 mg/ml

In total you have 288 mg + 200 mg in a total of 14 ml

So, 488mg/14ml = ~35mg/ml, pretty stout!

 

[Spazmelda]

Definitely check out the DIY forums and download a calculator to try out. It will help immensely!

 

[Burn_notice_fan_NY]

Locally the vap shops offer 2.4mg/ml as the strongest nicotine concentration. This was simply not cutting it. I found this site while researching DIY juice so I could mix up something that can keep the beast caged. I like tobacco and coffee mixed together from Atmos and wanted to bring it up to 3.3mg/ml.

I think you mean either 2.4% and 3.3% or 24 mg and 33 mg

Oh also as far as the percentages I think you're mainly going to see that in relation to PG and VG.

PG carries flavor and provides throat hit and VG provides the lovely vapor.

For the very beginner vaper, there are only two things percentages pertain to: nicotine strength and the PG/VG content. For the slightly more advanced, percentages make the recipe. For example: 20% 100mg nic, 40% pg, 35% VG and 5% flavoring.

I guess a good conversion calculator would help. What % of nicotine is there in a 2.4mg/ml solution of nicotine and VG?

That's an extremely weak nicotine solution, for helping someone reduce or eliminate nicotine. This would be .24%. Most people begin at 1.8% nic and then either move up or down.

 

[Nocigtax]

You guys are great. The light has finally come on. Still a bit dim but its on now. My first encounter was with a Pakistani cell phone/cigarette/vap store guy that told me it was 2.4 mg/ml. The juice they had was labeled 2.4 but no unit so I asked and he said mg/ml.

 

[Nocigtax]

Okay, so you have 12 ml of 24 mg/ml + 2ml of 100 mg/ml

In total you have 288 mg + 200 mg in a total of 14 ml

So, 488mg/14ml = ~35mg/ml, pretty stout!

Yes it is getting the job done pretty good. Before today I have had to chew some nicotine gum also to keep the lid on. So far I am feeling fine.

 

[dice57]

welcome, and may the Vape begin.

The quality of your gear and watts vaped at will strongly influence the efficiency of nic delivery. When I first started, 24 mg nic was needed to curb the urges, now with my builds, gear, and watts vaped at, 24 mg nic would kick my azz. 12 mg nic is what I now vape, and get as good if not better nic intake than I did when vaping 24 mg.

I mix DIY juice. Everything is precisely measured using large syringes. Use the e-juice me up calculator, just enter all the stats of my recipe, enter in the amount I want to make, press calculate, and it tells me exactly how much VG, PG, Nic base, Flavor extracts and Vodka, that I need. Easy as mixing up a batch of Napalm or chocolate chip cookies. lmao. This also allows me to know exactly what's in my juice, because, heck, I just put it in there you see.

Vape long and Prosper!!!

Another Journey begins!

 

[bpopken]

I talked to someone who switched to ecigs after they moved to New York from California. Hard to adjust to $12/pack going from $4/pack.

 

[Nocigtax]

It was my understanding that most NYC smokers buy bootleg cigs. At that price it makes good patriotic sense to go that way.

 

[LondonGirl]

You guys are great. The light has finally come on. Still a bit dim but its on now. My first encounter was with a Pakistani cell phone/cigarette/vap store guy that told me it was 2.4 mg/ml. The juice they had was labeled 2.4 but no unit so I asked and he said mg/ml.

It's more likely it was 2.4%, which is 24mg/ml.