Just ordered a Reo mini and some 14500 batts and charger. I saw in the Reo forum that people were talking about not leaving the batteries on the charger or putting them in a metal can or watching them while they charged. Are they this dangerous? This scares the life out of me.
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Do you have a multimeter? Do the batteries feel excessively warm when you pull the batteries out of the charger? L-ion batteries are sensitive to overcharging, and they will catch fire, or explode (yep, not an urban legend, ask me how I know...) if overcharged. My best advice to you (I use 14500's from madvapes) is to get a quality charger, and occasionally check voltages when you pull the batts out of the charger. 4.2 volts is full capacity for these batteries. Basically, apply common sense, and if you leave batteries charging while you sleep, ensure that no flammables are nearby. I have a granite kitchen counter with a smoke alarm above it. That is probably overkill, seeing as how the only problem I've had is one of my battery's protection circuit smoked, seemingly for no reason. Tossed the battery, ordered a new one. I have been using a TR-001 charger from madvapes to charge.
The 14500 is a very popular battery, so there are a bazillion of them in use. You hear about every single one of them that has ever failed.
Which in reality is probably something like .0000000000001% of the total in use.
Now understand with the Reo, just like any other mod, there is a % of users that are extreme vapors, meaning that they use very low resistance atomizers.
The lower the resistance .. the smaller the bat .. the harder the bat has to work.
My 1.5ohm atties go on 18650 mods, not 14500 mods.
Which in reality is probably something like .0000000000001% of the total in use.
Now understand with the Reo, just like any other mod, there is a % of users that are extreme vapors, meaning that they use very low resistance atomizers.
The lower the resistance .. the smaller the bat .. the harder the bat has to work.
My 1.5ohm atties go on 18650 mods, not 14500 mods.
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O.k. I think I see what you are saying.
So safer if I stick with a regular resistance atty.O.k., no multimeter...smile...I bought the Reo because I was tired of fiddling around with the ego and my 510. But I never worried about the batteries blowing up.
It's no different than any other non-proprietary battery. I use an EPower which uses 14650 batteries. Like others said, don't leave them charging over night and when the light turns green take them off and you shouldn't have any problems. Non-proprietary batteries can last a long time if handled correctly.
I would def get a multimeter too. You can buy te one that madvapes sells on eBay for only $3-4 bucks. That's what I use and it works well. You'll be able to check your batteries and also the ohms of your attys/cartos. When a battery gets to about 25% left, recharge it. They will last longer that way. That's what I do an it works well. I've been using the same batteries for months and they work great still.
Most chargers have a chip in them that will stop charging the battery when it's full. The stories you hear about batteries exploding or catching fire is normally bc that chip that's supposed to stop charging fails an continues to charge the battery after its full. That's why I don't recommend leaving them in overnight or for long periods after the light turns green. It is unlikely the chip will fail, but it can happen. Better to be safe than sorry
I would def get a multimeter too. You can buy te one that madvapes sells on eBay for only $3-4 bucks. That's what I use and it works well. You'll be able to check your batteries and also the ohms of your attys/cartos. When a battery gets to about 25% left, recharge it. They will last longer that way. That's what I do an it works well. I've been using the same batteries for months and they work great still.
Most chargers have a chip in them that will stop charging the battery when it's full. The stories you hear about batteries exploding or catching fire is normally bc that chip that's supposed to stop charging fails an continues to charge the battery after its full. That's why I don't recommend leaving them in overnight or for long periods after the light turns green. It is unlikely the chip will fail, but it can happen. Better to be safe than sorry
You can have problems with any rechargeable battery whether it's in a laptop, cell phone or PV. Just use common sense and don't leave batteries charging when you aren't there to keep an eye on it. It's highly unlikely that you will have an issue but you should use safe practices in case there ever is a problem.
An eGo battery can explode too. So it's really no different. Just follow te safe battery practices and you shouldn't have any problems
Buy good batteries and use common sense. The AW IMR 14500 are the recommended batteries for the REO Mini. They can safely run 1.5 ohm atomizers.
Get one more post, wait an hour, and come by the REO Forum. Reos Mods Lots of people willing to help.
And WELCOME new REOnaut!
Get one more post, wait an hour, and come by the REO Forum. Reos Mods Lots of people willing to help.
And WELCOME new REOnaut!
You can pick up a dmm cheap at lowe's, radioshack, wal-mart for under 15 or 20 bucks. Almost all the mods I have seen or used, as well as almost all manufactured units (joye, volt, etc) use 14500, 18650, or smaller L-ion cells in them. I have been using lion powered devices for a long time now with only one issue - that ultrafire 14500, which promptly went into a glass of water, and then the trash. Common sense will prevent 99% of your troubles with batteries, L-ion or otherwise. Just make sure (and this deserves stress) you get a quality charger from a trusted supplier. Other than that, welcome to the vaping world!
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Couple of notes about batteries, chargers, and LR atties.
LR atties and cartos do not always play well with protected 14500 and smaller batts. They seem to trip the discharge protection on the circuit. This is why IMR batteries are usually recommended for LR applications, they have a higher C rating and can handle the additional current required to effectively operate LR atties/cartos.
IMR batteries have a lower internal resistance than standard LiIon batts, some chargers can overcharge them because of this, have a multimeter handy and check them often when they come off the charger. My AW IMRs come off my TR-001 at 4.21v every time, the safe limit on them is 4.25v.
That being said, don't leave batteries on the chargers once they are fully charged, you can reduce the chance of an event happening this way.
IMR batteries are LiMn chemistry batteries, they less volatile than LiIon batteries and don't require a protection circuit.
That being said, if abused, mishandled, misused, over charged or over discharged any battery can fail and possibly experience thermal runaway, leading to venting (the expulsion of hot gasses.)
Treat all batteries with respect, and only use them for their intended purpose...oh and for the love of all that is great about vaping and particularly mods...make sure there are vent holes in your metal mods...you don't need to be holding a grenade under your nose if anything bad were to happen.
LR atties and cartos do not always play well with protected 14500 and smaller batts. They seem to trip the discharge protection on the circuit. This is why IMR batteries are usually recommended for LR applications, they have a higher C rating and can handle the additional current required to effectively operate LR atties/cartos.
IMR batteries have a lower internal resistance than standard LiIon batts, some chargers can overcharge them because of this, have a multimeter handy and check them often when they come off the charger. My AW IMRs come off my TR-001 at 4.21v every time, the safe limit on them is 4.25v.
That being said, don't leave batteries on the chargers once they are fully charged, you can reduce the chance of an event happening this way.
IMR batteries are LiMn chemistry batteries, they less volatile than LiIon batteries and don't require a protection circuit.
That being said, if abused, mishandled, misused, over charged or over discharged any battery can fail and possibly experience thermal runaway, leading to venting (the expulsion of hot gasses.)
Treat all batteries with respect, and only use them for their intended purpose...oh and for the love of all that is great about vaping and particularly mods...make sure there are vent holes in your metal mods...you don't need to be holding a grenade under your nose if anything bad were to happen.
Lithium can remove oxygen from water and keep burning. It's not a good idea to throw them in water.
Can you purchase pre-made batteries with the eGo threading with more than 1300 mAh? Can you find them in sizes similar to the eGo 1000's? I would like to have a larger battery but I don't want to carry around a massive box.
Just keep in mind, as others have said, never overcharge or over discharge your batteries. never used damaged ones either. Pila makes a good charger, although a bit pricey.
Good reading on batteries: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-issues/8852-li-ion-batteries-truth.html
Good reading on batteries: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-issues/8852-li-ion-batteries-truth.html
+1 to what everyone else has advised. The REO mini is an unregulated device, which means the battery voltage will drop as you use it. Unlike tube mods that generally have a venting hole, the REO uses the battery spring as its "protection": i.e., should the battery fail, the spring will collapse, distancing the battery from the firing pin and shutting the unit off.
I also recommend getting a multimeter, just for checking batteries when they come off the charger (4.2 volts) and periodically while vaping, at least initially. I can now tell when the battery has dropped to about 3.7v, and that's about when I change batteries. The vape isn't quite as good at the lower voltage. Perk it back up with a fresh battery. Also kinda fun to know exactly where your sweet spot is.
Get a good charger. I use the Pila charger, which shuts off the charging current to the battery when the battery has reached full charge. That way I don't have to constantly monitor the charge, worrying about possibly overcharging the battery, but that's also why I have a multimeter...just in case.
We've all used batteries for years and rarely had a thought about them, but since the PV is constantly in your face, that's why there such a hype about safety concerns. As stated, if you just use common sense, you'll be fine.
Love my REO minis.
I also recommend getting a multimeter, just for checking batteries when they come off the charger (4.2 volts) and periodically while vaping, at least initially. I can now tell when the battery has dropped to about 3.7v, and that's about when I change batteries. The vape isn't quite as good at the lower voltage. Perk it back up with a fresh battery.
Also kinda fun to know exactly where your sweet spot is.Get a good charger. I use the Pila charger, which shuts off the charging current to the battery when the battery has reached full charge. That way I don't have to constantly monitor the charge, worrying about possibly overcharging the battery, but that's also why I have a multimeter...just in case.
We've all used batteries for years and rarely had a thought about them, but since the PV is constantly in your face, that's why there such a hype about safety concerns. As stated, if you just use common sense, you'll be fine.
Love my REO minis.
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Everything in life is a trade off. With todays battery technology the price of mAh is size.
You are pretty much stuck with 18650 (or larger) bats when you get much above 1300mAh with a single bat.
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I haven't seen anything larger than 900-1000mAh as a single unit. To go larger than that you're typically looking at a separate battery and mod. Now if you aren't a fan of boxes, you can always look more into the tube mods.
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