Impeding air flow and heat

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fourthrok

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I think I pretty much know part of the answer to this, but would appreciate any input from an authority...or even a plausible hypothesis from someone. I have long heard that blocking an air hole in cartomizers (or tanks) can help when one has an "airy" draw. I use carto tanks mostly, and have noticed they can be pretty noisy. Lots of crackling and popping and whooshing sounds. This is good mostly, knowing that the juice is getting to the wick. I feel rather self conscious when I think EVERY one can hear each and every toke I take! Anyway...to see if it'd help I bought a tank "airflow controller" like this Tank Airflow Controller Seemed like a good idea, and it does really help with the sound issue without really impeding the flow of the vape. The device does work fine. Anyway, here's the question (finally):

Logic says that blocking air from the cartomizer/tank at all is going to make the atomizer work harder. Stands to reason. What I've noticed is that my carto tank seems to getting really warm (almost hot) really fast when I'm using the controller. I've been setting it to nearly touch the bottom of my tank. The air still flows in there freely...I don't have to suck my brains out or anything. But it's definitely blocking some of the air. I prefer to vape around 3.4 to 3.7 volts and use 2 ohm single coil cartos. That shouldn't strain anything. So I'm wondering: If the air is impeded enough that the cartomizer and tank/juice are getting quite hot, then that's going to wear out the atomizer (burn it out) faster, right?

Or this that hogwash? I don't want to be burning up my cartos too fast...but have appreciated having some control over the airflow. The latter isn't worth it if I'm going through cartomizers too fast, though. Anyone have any input on this?
 
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it may wear on it a bit faster but shouldnt be too bad, while not the most aesthetically pleasing situations a longer drip tip can help the carto quite down as the opening iis now further away from the coil.

in the end the real problem would be is the hotter carto going to cook or caramelize the juice?
 

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So far I haven't really noticed my juice getting darker or anything. It's quite light...nearly clear. But the heat of the tank is very noticeable. What bothered me last night (I've only had the controller a day or two) was that a nice Boge I'd just punched and put in the tank the previous day (which was working perfectly) suddenly started tasting "off" last night. Not really burnt, but not "right" either. Normally I can get a at least 3 days or a week or even more with extreme vaping on the Boges and the Ikenvapes (10ml. +/- a day). Having one go south so quick upset me. The only thing I could think made it start to "turn", that I did different, was to use the controller most of the day that day.

Oh yeah..and I do tend to use those long "tank refiller drip tips" the really long skinny ones a lot during the day because I'm chugging along so much. I like a cooler vape.
 

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yea well they way the carto is designed the airflow is keeping the coil cooler so by impeding the flow the filler material will def get hotter, and who knows, if its not burning there is a chance it is affecting the way the juice is reacting inside as in you could be baking the juice into the filler material or caking up the coil faster.

as we dont know at what temp the filler material will change, melt or combust, there is a greater chance you scorched it, if you can feel the tank heating up becuase the fluid is absorbing heat from the carto and heating up the tank imagine how hot the carto is inside.
 

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Okay...guess I've answered my own question, along with acknowledging the points Thrasher mentioned. I've been sitting here literally chain vaping myself stupid on purpose to try and see if the tank gets as hot without the air controller. I didn't think it did, but wanted to satisfy myself that what I "thought" was actually true. The tank does NOT get as hot. Not even close. Not even vaping like a fool for 3 hours straight. So...I think it's true that the heat was effecting my coil (and/or the filler material), and it's probably not a good idea to make a habit out of using the controller unless there are compelling reasons to be stealthy quiet.
 

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Sounds right. Best not to mess with the originally design like that a whole lot. I have a atty situation I can impede the air hole at will because doing so makes for more vape and short draw time. Sometimes I feel like I have to draw too long to get what I want. What you might look for is a new carto....yeah I know that quest! But some are less airy than others by design. How many different brands have you tried? Me? Only two. Both about the same in airy. The Smoktek being less airy than the Innokin 510 platinum PUNCH
 

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Oh forgot. Very dingy I am. The smoktech has always quiet unless it was too wet. Does that make sense? I rather drip to prime every now and then than have too big a hole or too many. I start with one hole pre puch and if a juice needs more I ad as small a hole as I can punch with a fairly. Ok it's really nice. Still sharp nice puncher
 

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I've tried a few. In order of my preference: Ikenvape, Boge, Smoktech & Kanger. The ones I'm using now are Boge. It wasn't really an "airy" issue with me...not directly. It was more the crackling sizzling noise which can be quite pronounced sometimes. A lot of that could be when I don't punch exactly as good as I do other times! haha!
 

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Sounds like you've got that thing in your mouth all day like a pacifier. What mg nic are you using? Have you thought of upping it so you vape less? The juice would cost the same but you'd use less and your cartos would last longer. Just a thought.


pfffff wheres the fun in that!!
 

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It is a lot. I admit that. And yes...my vape is my pacifier. What can I say? Even when I was vaping 18mg a year ago I was running through 7 or 8 mls of juice a day much (most) of the time. I've since worked my way down to 4mg, but have edged up the consumption some. Part of that is encouraged by the fact I started DI Y last summer and it's way cheaper than buying premade juice. I don't have much motivation to cut back! Aw, what the heck...I just love to vape!
 
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