Important message and question for VG Vapers only...

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leaford

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Yes, Jeffree, this means you!

We're blowing out our VG carts and juices, at the bargain price of $7.50 for carts, and $2.50 for 5ml juices and $9.95 for 30ml juices.

Then we'll restock a limited selection of Premium VG carts and flavors. As I've said before, we are comitted to keeping a VG alternative for our V4L family members who cannot or don't wish to vape PG. But sales and space considerations both mean we won't be able to carry a large selection.

So, the question is, what flavors do you most want?

If you vape our VG carts, please weigh in. And you're not limited to our current selection, either. :cool:
 
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Brooke1975

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Yes, Jeffee, this means you!

We're blowing out our VG carts and juices, at the bargain price of $7.50 for carts, and $2.50 for 5ml juices and $9.95 for 30ml juices.

Then we'll restock a limited selection of Premium carts and flavors. As I've said before, we are comitted to keeping a VG alternative for our V4L family members who cannot or don't wish to vape PG. But sales and space considerations both mean we won't be able to carry a large selection.

So, the question is, what flavors do you most want?

If you vape our VG carts, please weigh in. And you're not limited to our current selection, either. :cool:

The only 2 VG types I have tried are the Banana and the Menthol and I like them both. But I would have to say the Menthol is the best of the 2. I am finding that I prefer the PG with only the occasional VG vape every couple of days. But I am still a newbie :)
 

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Definitely keep the tobacco flavors and also menthol, even the plain cowboy. I just cannot find a single smoker who wants to try flavors. I was the same way when I started tho, so I completely understand them, but I'm unable to help them start vaping. Before switching, so many of us would have killed ourselves smoking rather that try non cigarette flavors.

I haven't tried too many flavors yet either. Are y'all eliminating many many flavors? or just a small number of them? Because for example, I can only tell you which one or two I would vote against.

I would vote against:

1- eggnog
2- lemon (but not sweet lemonade, it says lemon-limeaid but its more like bitter sugarless lemon)
3- pear
 
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Definitely keep the tobacco flavors and also menthol, even the plain cowboy. I just cannot find a single smoker who wants to try flavors. I was the same way when I started tho, so I completely understand them, but I'm unable to help them start vaping. Before switching, so many of us would have killed ourselves smoking rather that try non cigarette flavors.

I haven't tried too many flavors yet either. Are y'all eliminating many many flavors? or just a small number of them? Because for example, I can only tell you which one or two I would vote against.

I vote against:

1- eggnog
2- lemon (but not sweet lemonade, it says lemon-limeaid but its more like bitter sugarless lemon)
3- pear

Thank god Pear isn't a VG flavor! I'd be so sad if Pear went away! ;)

I'm not a huge VG user but I wasn't big on VG Green Tea. I can totally see myself being struck down on this one though.
 

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Somebody call my name? I'm just back from placing my second all-VG order in the past two days. Darn your special sales, Leaford. ;)

Here's my short take after a week of all-VG vaping: the VG base tastes different, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's somehow deeper than PG--and more prevalent--so the flavs themselves are subtler. But the weird and tangentially relevant point I want to make is that the darker VG base taste has become a big draw for me. I didn't like it at first, too strong, but it sure grew on me fast. It actually reminds me of my cig-smoking days.

So the VG flavs themselves, being milder, matter less to me than during my all-PG days. All that said, here would be my Top Ten VG prems, which would keep me in vape heaven...

1. Chocolate milk (I'll offer bribes to keep this one)
2. Classic CMF (the darker, bolder version)
3-5. a few mint/menth (one a tobac-menth blend)
6-8. a few reg tobac (Dunhall, please)
9-10. a couple of fruit (Grape, please)

Whatever shakes out, I want to thank you again, Leaford, for throwing your support our way. A small 'prem VG' corner will be a wonderful place for those in need. :thumbs:
 

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I haven't reid the WOW yet (still waiting on liquids), but it seems to be
what premium liquid should be. I think the WOW should therefore replace the premium.

VG vapers would still have all the current flavors available (which aren't that many flavors to begin with). Asking at this moment which VG should be eliminated to make room may not be a good idea. The industry is young, and there are thousands upon hundreds of thousands of people who haven't even tried V4L yet.
 

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Once again, this thread is about the VG flavors. :lol:

I'm pretty sure this thread is about getting constructive data on which flavors, in VG ONLY, they should keep. It's counter-productive to have PG users supply any info for this, since we already have a bunch of flavors to choose from. From a business standpoint, I am questioning the reason for even keeping VG only around (since VG sales are probably a very small percentage of total sales). But this just shows the commitment to keeping people smokefree that V4L has. They are willing to use up valuable manpower and space to stock VG alternative.

Unless I'm mistaken, only 1 actual VG only user has even posted to this thread so far :)
 

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But this just shows the commitment to keeping people smokefree that V4L has. They are willing to use up valuable manpower and space to stock VG alternative. Unless I'm mistaken, only 1 actual VG only user has even posted to this thread so far :)

Darrigaaz, that's such an important point, certainly not lost on me. I didn't move to VG by choice--I just got tired of the darned zits. I've researched the issue enough lately to know that I'm not alone, but the 'VG group' won't make a company like V4L rich either. Not a chance. Some other companies do offer some VG choices, typically not more than 5-6 flavs, though. Yeah, VG-only is a tiny market, and having been a PG-only vaper for 3 months, I can see why. The lack of response to this thread is a good indication. (Can you imagine how long the thread would be if the focus was on new PG flavs?)

Which brings me back to my heartfelt thanks to Leaford and the gang for making the effort to accommodate the very small group of folks, like me, who really need our VG cartos--and who want to stay with V4L. All that said, just 5-6 flavs would certainly be enough to keep me around. A tobac or two, a menth/mint or two, and some tasty chocolate or CCMF to round things out? I'm there. Maybe my body will allow me to return to PG one day, but if not, I'll be forever grateful to the V4L crew and will spread the good word about them every chance I get. :2cool:
 

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And what I meant can be illustrated in this example:



Suppose that once upon a time, there was a VG vanilla, a PG (premium) vanilla, and a Wow vanilla.

Now suppose V4L asks "should we get rid of VG vanilla" because they don't have the room?

All I'm saying is almost something like "look, VG vanilla can be imporatant to many people, the industry is young, and soon so many people could need it. I would have said go for it, get rid of it, but the new thing about this is that NOW with the WOW vanilla available, who will want the PG-premium vanilla (that could not possibly get satisfied with the wow?). If you get rid of premium (PG) vanilla, you end up with the two that address both medical needs, and quality needs. But if you get rid of VG vanilla, then you cut the people (future people) with medical needs off, and you may not even sell the PG vanilla now that Wow vanilla rocked the world."

I could be wrong, of course, and I have not tried the wows as I've mentioned. But if the Wow really is what the posts indicate that it is--super premium vapor, flavor, and TH, then the 'old' premium--of the same flavor--may be what needs to be replaced.

Finally, I really wish nothing had to be replaced at all, imo. I really wish V4L would simply open walk-in stores (with shipping abilities too) in other states like California, Wisconsin, Mass., you name it; but that's probably for other threads.... just thought I'd mention it because as young as the industry is, I wouldn't like to hear that V4L has problems of not having enough room.
 

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I really wish V4L would simply open walk-in stores (with shipping abilities too) in other states like California, Wisconsin, Mass., you name it; but that's probably for other threads.... just thought I'd mention it because as young as the industry is, I wouldn't like to hear that V4L has problems of not having enough room.

You'd rather hear they have cashflow and span-and-control problems instead? :confused:

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