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Importing flavour concentrates to Belgium (illegal?)

Discussion in 'EU Legislation' started by technofogger, Jun 23, 2017.

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  1. technofogger

    technofogger Full Member

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    Aug 9, 2012
    Belgium
    There is a lot to do in Europe, with all the bans and on top of this: many things are unclear.
    That is probably how they like it.

    Recently I've ordered some "one-shot concentrates" from Chefs Flavours (UK) online. They are just flavours, with no nicotine (e.g. 'Red Astair' flavour concentrate).
    Usually, the order arrives a few days later, but now it already took a week. The order could still arrive, but I am a bit worried (since the order is around € 70).

    So, does anybody know what the Belgian legislation is about importing flavours/aroma's, that are intended to use for e-cigarettes (but might as well be used in a summer cocktail).
    How is the legislation in other EU-countries?

    Thank you for your answers!
     
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  2. retired1

    retired1 Administrator Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Apr 5, 2013
    Texas
    0 Nic content e-liquids and flavor concentrates are not affected by the TPD. You should receive your order.
     
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  3. technofogger

    technofogger Full Member

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    Aug 9, 2012
    Belgium
    Thanks for your answer, retired1. I'll update this thread when I receive the flavours...
     
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  4. WiSK

    WiSK Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 15, 2015
    The Netherlands
    From Chef's, if you chose the GBP10 shipping option, you should get a tracking number and it will be package-post. With the cheaper shipping option, it's letterpost and since liquids are not allowed in letter-airmail sometimes it will not arrive. If it's not there after 10 working days, then email Chef's and they will resend.
     
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  5. technofogger

    technofogger Full Member

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    Aug 9, 2012
    Belgium
    Thanks for your answers!
    WiSK: Indeed, before I ordered with the GBP10 shipping option and that's why it arrived so quick.
    Last Friday, June 30th, my order arrived without any problem. My mistake, because I ordered with the Normal Shipping :)
    I've contacted Chef's Flavours and they gave me the same answer as you, WiSK.
    Still, I was a bit worried... but all ended well.
     
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  6. Leo Bak

    Leo Bak Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 10, 2015
    Netherlands
    I guess you're lucky, all vaping-related online purchases are officially forbidden in Belgium since january 17th due to some 'Koninklijk Besluit' which comes on top of the TPD2.
     
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  7. Vukmir

    Vukmir Full Member

    Jul 13, 2017
    It has been illegal in Poland for like 9 months already, online sale of any vape related stuff. But in practice, i have been buying stuff from gearbest, aliexpress even onehitwonder 180ml bottles. No problems so far.
     
  8. Leo Bak

    Leo Bak Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 10, 2015
    Netherlands
    Weird, i still buy Inawera flavours from Polish webshops.
     
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  9. Winblows

    Winblows Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Feb 10, 2017
    Copenhagen (UTC+1)
    All these "bans" in Europe are not only unclear. They are almost nuclear :)
    I am new to vaping (6 months) and I supply myself most in Spain, UK and Poland.
    The bans are related for sale. It is not prohibited to buy.
    So, as long as you purchese inside the EU, you are doing fine.
     
  10. tazzle

    tazzle Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 5, 2014
    Athens, Greece
    Winblows, the problem is that various countries have added additional laws and restrictions on top of the basic EU TPD restrictions, so not every EU country has the same buying options.
     
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  11. Winblows

    Winblows Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Feb 10, 2017
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    I don't know the situation in Greece, but as long as I can, I'll supply myself as I do and accumulate the nicotine as far as my freezer allows me to :)
    Having "some" spare tanks, mods, wire and cotton, I'll be fine for years :)
     
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  12. Ipster

    Ipster Super Member ECF Veteran

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    so maybe "Shh"..
     
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  16. khundian

    khundian Full Member

    Jan 2, 2018
    Ghent, Belgium
    https://www.health.belgium.be/nl/gezondheid/zorg-voor-jezelf/alcohol-tabak/e-sigaret
    https://www.health.belgium.be/fr/sante/prenez-soin-de-vous/alcool-et-tabac/e-cigarette

    Here you can find the rules on the official website of the federal public service for health, food chain safety and environment. The page is available in dutch and french, no english version available. (sorry to our international friends)

    I still have a contact to buy things if anyone is interested, even 100mg nicotine base in 100%PG, 100%VG or 50/50. Send me a pm and we can work something out.:thumb:(only for people who are long time members on the forum, and active in the DIY section, because 100mg nicotine is potentially very dangerous and should only be used by people who know what they are doing)

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