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Anybody have anything pithy to say before the old forum software makes way for the new forum software?

I do: :censored: you, Outside.

If ECF cannot survive without having an "Outside", then it has failed - miserably - in its mission.

:censored: you, Outside TROLLS who have pulled ECF down into nothing more than a cesspool of crap.

I challenge, defy and dare the powers of ECF to DELETE Outside at the time of the software upgrade.

I'll say it again:
If ECF cannot survive without having an "Outside", then it has failed - miserably - in its mission.

Outside has been NOTHING but a point of contention and a drain on admin/mod resources. It's time for it to just GO AWAY.

The new Outside rules suck HUGE donkey :censored: and is just a way to have it ignored by The Powers.


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Let's see how long those TROLLS stick around if they do not have an outlet for their real-life frustrations, shortcomings and failures.
 
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I do: :censored: you, Outside.

If ECF cannot survive without having an "Outside", then it has failed - miserably - in its mission.

:censored: you, Outside TROLLS who have pulled ECF down into nothing more than a cesspool of crap.

I challenge, defy and dare the powers of ECF to DELETE Outside at the time of the software upgrade.

I'll say it again:
If ECF cannot survive without having an "Outside", then it has failed - miserably - in its mission.

Outside has been NOTHING but a point of contention and a drain on admin/mod resources. It's time for it to just GO AWAY.

The new Outside rules suck HUGE donkey :censored: and is just a way to have it ignored by The Powers.


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Let's see how long those TROLLS stick around if they do not have an outlet for their real-life frustrations, shortcomings and failures.

It's likely not going away, but with nearly 10k posts per day, we hardly rely on the Outside. I take it you had a bad experience?

Many, many large message boards have "general" chat sections and they are often the busiest because people have thoughts and lives away from vaping.

Also, your statements contradict each other: first, you said it's a drain on admin resources, then you say that we introduced the rules to ignore the issues in that section. With due respect, which is it? The rules were introduced in order to prevent us from having to constantly deal with what goes on in there, so now members go in there at their own peril, and we only deal with very serious problems within.
 
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Many, many large message boards have "general" chat sections and they are often the busiest because people have thoughts and lives away from vaping.

Also, your statements contradict each other: first, you said it's a drain on admin resources, then you say that we introduced the rules to ignore the issues in that section. With due respect, which is it? The rules were introduced in order to prevent us from having to constantly deal with what goes on in there, so now members go in there at their own peril, and we only deal with very serious problems within.


The Lounge fulfills the "general" chat section requirement.

I do not believe for a second that Outside is now completely unmonitored. Nope. I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

The "new rules" have provided more latitude in an area which already had TOO much.

If ECF has "nearly 10K posts per day", then it can well do without an area which is INTENDED to cause ill-will.

It would be very interesting to see how many of the Outside Big Boys and Big Girl(s) come back if Outside was to be temporarily shut down for, say, 60 days. After turning into gelatinous emotional pools on the floor, they would just find another outlet. And ECF would be better for it. After all, it is "hardly" relied-upon, right?
 

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    The Lounge fulfills the "general" chat section requirement.

    I do not believe for a second that Outside is now completely unmonitored. Nope. I may have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

    The "new rules" have provided more latitude in an area which already had TOO much.

    If ECF has "nearly 10K posts per day", then it can well do without an area which is INTENDED to cause ill-will.

    It would be very interesting to see how many of the Outside Big Boys and Big Girl(s) come back if Outside was to be temporarily shut down for, say, 60 days. After turning into gelatinous emotional pools on the floor, they would just find another outlet. And ECF would be better for it. After all, it is "hardly" relied-upon, right?

    You are never out there posting. So what's the problem? Just stay out. It's really that simple. :)
     
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    Katmar

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    I do: :censored: you, Outside.

    If ECF cannot survive without having an "Outside", then it has failed - miserably - in its mission.

    :censored: you, Outside TROLLS who have pulled ECF down into nothing more than a cesspool of crap.

    I challenge, defy and dare the powers of ECF to DELETE Outside at the time of the software upgrade.

    I'll say it again:
    If ECF cannot survive without having an "Outside", then it has failed - miserably - in its mission.

    Outside has been NOTHING but a point of contention and a drain on admin/mod resources. It's time for it to just GO AWAY.

    The new Outside rules suck HUGE donkey :censored: and is just a way to have it ignored by The Powers.


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    Let's see how long those TROLLS stick around if they do not have an outlet for their real-life frustrations, shortcomings and failures.

    What's with all the vitriol? Honestly. You are not out there. Why should you care? And to call us such horrible names. We don't come into the Lounge and attack, do we? No, we don't. That's why there IS an OUTSIDE. And NO ONE has to go there if they choose not to. We are grateful to have a place to debate and discuss and even battle one another to try to get our points across. As long as everyone consents who goes in there, NO problem. Sorry you feel so strongly about this, but, really, you don't need to go out there. Ever. Enjoy the Lounge. I know you are loved there by many. That's cool. Let us have our place.
     
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    You are never out there posting. So what's the problem? Just stay out. It's really that simple. :)

    Ignoring or allowing the kind of of-late behavior in that septic tank, and giving carte blanche for it to continue - to me - really says little for the integrity and success of ECF.

    But, I suppose even the most delicate flower needs some :censored: to grow and flourish, right?

    Not my home, not my bathroom and not my :censored:ter to clean. It was just a little something for The Powers to consider. No more, no less.
     

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    Ignoring or allowing the kind of of-late behavior in that septic tank, and giving carte blanche for it to continue - to me - really says little for the integrity and success of ECF.

    But, I suppose even the most delicate flower needs some :censored: to grow and flourish, right?

    Not my home, not my bathroom and not my :censored:ter to clean.
    It was just a little something for The Powers to consider. No more, no less.

    Bingo. Just don't go there. It would solve ALL your problems with it. And bashing ECF is not the answer, trust me. You walk on glass when you do that. Good luck. Have a great day.
     
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