In need of some hand holding - My first kit is now WAY low on the vapo-meter

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Pamiam

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I bought a double-eGo kit a couple of weeks ago. It was AWESOME when I got it.

My vapor is WAY down at this point. I think the batteries are still good.

I've cleaned everything as much as it can be cleaned. I've been using the frothing nozzle on the cappuccino machine to clean out the atomizers, which would probably work great if I did it at the end of the evening and let them dry overnight. But NoooOoooOoo... I have to do it in a hurry when they're clogged, usually with a cup of coffee in my hand, so I jigger the battery button to dry them out. The attys are probably the culprit?

I've also been using the same cartridges and washing/refilling them. That's probably bad too, right?

But I do understand that no matter how much care is taken, atomizers, cartridges and batteries are replacement items. Sigh.

So now I do have to throw some more money at them.

Would one (or more) of you kind souls please take me by the hand and guide me on the progress trek? I would be much obliged. What's the cheapest and best next move?
 

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If you're going atty+cart, I'd suggest getting some cartomizers. Cost wise, it might run you a little more? (I don't know per se). But it's much easier. Fill the carto, vape away. When it starts to degrade in vapor and or flavor, top it up. When it starts to taste nasty, toss it out and fill up a new carto.

In your current situation, use one and keep the other one on backup? That way you can use your steam machine when you've got time as opposed to when you're jonesing for a hit.
 

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What are you vaping? It could be too thick for your cartos and clogging them. sometimes darker juices and all VG will do it. I can see the espresso machine working well, but an air compressor would do better, go to tips and tricks to review it. I soak mine for a day and then blow them out. I change water whenever I'm in the kitchen.

I like dual coils in my eGo's. Nice warm vape and lots of vapor. I still havent clogged one or had it wear out.

My $.02
 

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Many people on this forum (me included) have moved away from the atomizer/cartridge combo and moved on to cartomizers (an atomizer and cartridge in a single unit). I personally use the "genuine Joye 510" cartomizers with my eGOs and like them, even though many people here do not. After numerous re-fills with e-juice and when my cartomizer stops producing vapor to my satisfaction, I chuck it and break out a new one. I never bother to clean them, as they are relatively cheap...5 for $8.00.

There are many threads on this forum about different cartomizers. Check them out. I like the little muss, little fuss of cartomizers over atomizers/carts. Good luck in your journey of what suits your style.
 

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..."genuine Joye 510" ...

The other most popular one that's also just 2 things to hook together is called the KR808d-1.

More of the newer fancier gadgets work with the 510 kind.

If you think you're going to be interested in tinkering and experimenting, choose that one, but if not, you'll probably like the KR808d-1 because they say the batteries last a little bit longer, but how important is that to you? Are you a goer and a doer, or do you sit and puff in place, plugged into the wall?
 

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Just a little to add if you go this route. Do NOT use your carts with LR atty's. The juice won't wick fast enough and the atty will pop in no time.

Want do you mean by LR? My eGo kit came with LR atties and I've yet to 'lose' one (and I'm a heavy duty vaper). In fact, I'd say that one of the best combos is an eGo batt and LR atty!
 

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Well carts work better with blue foam stuffing - it has even consistency, it's easy to rinse and pat dry (and you can rinse the empty cart and use a qtip to dry it). It will be like a fresh cart. You just have to cut the foam properly. If it's a 510 there are cheap precut pieces at strictlyejuice.com. Those can be cut down for super-mini carts. or you can buy bulk blue foam as Marineland Rite-Size U Bonded Foam Sleeve for H.O.T.Magnum Filters in the Aquarium Dept at Petsmart.

And what did you buy? If you bought a super-mini, then it has kept you happy about the average time a super-mini keeps anyone happy. If you bought auto batteries, they are more work and easier to damage with juice leaks. Most people here use and recommend manual batteries. It's easier to get a good hit with manuals. You need to buy something decent with manual batteries.

BTW if you bought a 901 - they are decent but I had trouble with attys. Their coil compartment is so sealed that they are hard to clean. no matter how you clean them, dried gunk stays trapped in that coil compartment. And I have an issue when twisting them on caused a problem - instead of stopping when fulled twisted on, the barrel would rotate around the battery's threaded end and cause some plastic armatures inside the coil compartment to block the air intakes.

Re attys w/ carts in general - it's probably the most annoying and least consistent way to vape. If you want a slim ecig then buy a mini (about 9.2mm diameter cylindrical and about 110-130mm long), not a supermini. And buy a mini that has very popular threading and good blank cartomizers easily available. Slim ecigs can only use standard resistance cartomizers. And buy manual batteries so you can use a drip tip. Atty+drip tip for trying juice, Atty+ driptip or cart for vaping thicker juices, and thin juices you like go into cartimers. If filled properly w/ thin clear juices and kept damp, you should be able to get at least a week of good use out of a $2 carto. With cartos, every new carto is a fresh atomizer and your flavors stay separate.

100mah is about 1 hour of moderate vaping

Joye 510 manual (Cignot.com) w/ 510 drip tip and Boge standard resistance cartos - 180mah
(or the longer Joye 510 mega xl manual from FreedomSmokeUSA and elsewhere for 280mah)

KR808D-1 manual (LiteCigUSA.net or Vapor4Life) this a a 2-piece. Use DSE901 atty and drip tip for testing juices - std is 280mah, shorty is 180mah. I use the Vapor4Life blank cartos.

Those are the two most popular slim minis

Or step it up to Ego or Riva 510 - fat battery 510 w/ 650 to 1300mah (Liberty-Flights.com and press the 20% off). These can use standard resistance Boge cartos or the hotter LR 2.0 or 2.5 ohm ones that use charge faster
 
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Want do you mean by LR? My eGo kit came with LR atties and I've yet to 'lose' one (and I'm a heavy duty vaper). In fact, I'd say that one of the best combos is an eGo batt and LR atty!

Are you dripping? Or you're using the cart? THen I stand corrected and will delete that post. I was under the impression that LR atty's burn hotter (which they do) and draw juice much faster. That being the case, the batting in cart can't keep the wick wet enough when vaping.

The other risk of LR on eGo batteries is that there is potential of burning out the mosfet.
 

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And what did you buy?

Or step it up to Ego or Riva 510 - fat battery 510 w/ 650 to 1300mah (Liberty-Flights.com and press the 20% off). These can use standard resistance Boge cartos or the hotter LR 2.0 or 2.5 ohm ones that use charge faster

Pssst, she said she bought an eGo.
 

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I bought a double-eGo kit a couple of weeks ago. It was AWESOME when I got it.

My vapor is WAY down at this point. I think the batteries are still good.

I've cleaned everything as much as it can be cleaned. I've been using the frothing nozzle on the cappuccino machine to clean out the atomizers, which would probably work great if I did it at the end of the evening and let them dry overnight. But NoooOoooOoo... I have to do it in a hurry when they're clogged, usually with a cup of coffee in my hand, so I jigger the battery button to dry them out. The attys are probably the culprit?

I've also been using the same cartridges and washing/refilling them. That's probably bad too, right?

But I do understand that no matter how much care is taken, atomizers, cartridges and batteries are replacement items. Sigh.

So now I do have to throw some more money at them.

Would one (or more) of you kind souls please take me by the hand and guide me on the progress trek? I would be much obliged. What's the cheapest and best next move?

First off, Welcome! Second, most all of us have been through this at some point. You are doing nearly everything right! Don't become discouraged. These things take little getting used to.

Low, tasteless vapor can be caused by many things but a big culprit is water in the atty or cartridge or both. I'm not sure if you are drying the carts out as well as the atomizers. If not, you need to. After rinsing out, the atomizers do need to have as much water blown out of them as possible before using. This is important for the carts too - its just a different process. You can't just blow air through them to dry them out. One way is to bake them at a VERY low temp (or sitting them in the beautiful SC sunshine works well too)... Shouldn't take more than an hour or so in the sun. Another way is how I do it... rinse the carts with some water. Then, using tweezers, I grab the filler material and yank it out. its a little rectangle in some carts. I rinse it again and then squish it in a paper towel or other type of towel until dry. I might do this a couple of times for really gunky filler. I also take a q-tip and swab out the inside of the cart. Then, I wad up the filler and cram it back in the cart with the tweezers.

The idea is to make the atty and carts as dry as possible before refilling with juice. When you think they are dry enough, refill the cart with maybe 4-5 drops of your favorite juice plus 1 drop on the atty. Exactly how much depends on the size of the cartridge. Plus, the really thick juice (the consistency of maple syrup) will require more frequent cleaning of this stuff. Thinner, more clear juices work a bit better for attys and cartridge methods...well, cartomizers like thinner juices better too. If all goes well, the first few hits might be a bit weak but it should come up to full vapor after 3 or 4 puffs. While its not necessary right now, Dormouse made a good suggestion about replacing the white filler with the blue foam stuff. I believe its is available at pet shops that sell aquarium supplies. Hopefully, this will get you back on track.

Now, cartomizers have been mentioned and they are easier to use and probably offer more "bang for the buck" in my opinion. A great, cost-effective addition to your kit. I recommend them as they remove some of the "fiddling around" that you have with carts/attys. Same rules apply though.

Thick juices gunk them up faster and they need to be first flushed out with Vodka or Pure Grain Alcohol then a good flushing with water and then blown dry or baked dry before refilling them. They hold a LOT more liquid though and can be cleaned and refilled, in many cases, dozens of times before they are shot. (start tasting bad etc.) It would be a good idea to pick up a 5 pack of cartomizers with a resistance of between 2.5 to 3.2 ohms. Standard Boge cartos are about 3.2 ohms and work well for many people. Its a good starting point. If you want to try the LR (lower resistance = less than 2.5 ohms), you certainly can but they will deliver a hotter hit on an eGo and the length of vaping time before the battery needs to be recharged will go down. Also, Some juices vape well with LR, others, I've found, taste and vape better at 3.2 ohms which is a cooler hit. YMMV

Hope this helps a bit!
 
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LR cartos do not nessasarily run your battery down faster . Take shorter draws is all . That may depend on what type of vaporer you are . Do you like the slow draw and cooler vapor or the quick draw and warmer vapor . I find that any mega anything if it has filler in it has some kind of wicking issue although some issues are very minor and nearly non existant . Depends on what you get .
 

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Want do you mean by LR? My eGo kit came with LR atties and I've yet to 'lose' one (and I'm a heavy duty vaper). In fact, I'd say that one of the best combos is an eGo batt and LR atty!

Most of the time LR atties run too hot for carts. You might be using 2.0 Ohm atties and on an eGo these are usually just fine. Using anything lower, especially on a 3.7V mod almost always requires dripping. Carts definitely won't keep up. LR atties must be kept wet in order to keep them from popping. There's no way that I would ever even try to use a cart with my Chameleon or my Indulgence, not that I would go back to using carts anyway.
 

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Low, tasteless vapor can be caused by many things but a big culprit is water in the atty or cartridge or both.

As an atomizer user, I fully agree with this statement. Happens to me after cleaning. Vape through it and production should improve.

To many of the responders on this thread: read the OP and subsequent replies before posting, please.
 
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