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    Hi vape family..... Just a rather "strange" question for you people....... But, what do you expect because I am strange. :yawn:

    At any rate, I noticed when I used to smoke that many (not all) people will start out with one death stick and then would try more a few times until they suddenly found themselves addicted at which most people usually start increasing the amount they smoke. So, most smokers start out small and then increase their smoking until it gets to a certain point.

    vaping on the other hand consists of many folks who are ex smokers trying to get away from ciggs and so many of them start out vaping at a certain pace and then lots of folks try to cut down on their nicotine intake and the amount they vape. Most vapers seem to decrease their usuage with both nicotine and the amount vaped.

    But, what I am curious about is if some of you folks started vaping, but rather than decreasing over time like lots of folks I see here, did any of you increase your vaping habit over time? I always hear about people desiring to decrease their vaping through the course of time. But am I the only weirdo that wants to INCREASE my vaping over time?
     

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    I was a fairly heavy smoker (1 and a half to 2 pad). I vaped like crazy at first, but all I had were egos and evods. I switched to a kbox and a subtank later on, then a dripper almost exclusively. I now use that dripper at about 50 to 70 watts, going through about 3 ml of juice a day. I am at 6mg of nic and don't plan on going down.
     
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    I was a fairly heavy smoker (1 and a half to 2 pad). I vaped like crazy at first, but all I had were egos and evods. I switched to a kbox and a subtank later on, then a dripper almost exclusively. I now use that dripper at about 50 to 70 watts, going through about 3 ml of juice a day. I am at 6mg of nic and don't plan on going down.


    Ahhh excellent! This is what I was after. I want to see if anyone has plans to either continue or increase their intake instead of decreasing it like many here do...... I am much like you in that I "usually" use a dripper but I am a constant vaper and vape non stop all day long. I however usually keep my mod at lower wattage than you unless i decide to really chuck some clouds. I usually stay at about 25 or 30w..... But, when I first started vaping I was not vaping near as frequently as I do now. I suppose I am a chain vapor that uses a dripper.
     

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    I think this post is great, I never really thought about it until I read this...I think I have for sure vaped much less over time than when I was smoking a pack a day (lucky strikes) ;x I was going through juice like it was water at the start and now, not so much. I have noticed I have a willingness to roam and try new flavors all the time unlike smoking I would smoke one brand.
     
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    Ahhh excellent! This is what I was after. I want to see if anyone has plans to either continue or increase their intake instead of decreasing it like many here do...... I am much like you in that I "usually" use a dripper but I am a constant vaper and vape non stop all day long. I however usually keep my mod at lower wattage than you unless i decide to really chuck some clouds. I usually stay at about 25 or 30w..... But, when I first started vaping I was not vaping near as frequently as I do now. I suppose I am a chain vapor that uses a dripper.
    Once I started rebuilding the subtank and had food consistent results, I would go through 10 or more ml a day lol. I started dripping because I'm lazy and would rather not get up and get my bottle AND a mod to vape. My laziness is working for me.
     

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    Once I started rebuilding the subtank and had food consistent results, I would go through 10 or more ml a day lol. I started dripping because I'm lazy and would rather not get up and get my bottle AND a mod to vape. My laziness is working for me.

    LOL this is a genius solution.
     

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    People tend to vape a lot when they are quitting cigs - and continue to vape a lot. LOL
    The trend used to be to start with sticks, then Egos, then go VV or VW and climb up the wattage ladder... Now, though, a lot of new vapers start right off with 100 watts and a subohm tank...

    So things are still in flux.
    But yes - there does still seem to be a tendency to reduce nicotine, because it's not hard to do, so why not? But that also still does tend to go along with increasing power: folks using 3mg liquid at high power vs. using 12mg liquid at low power...
     
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    When I started vaping, my lil ego was my security blanket. I never put it down and puffed on it every chance I got. I'm still the same way now with much higher power devices. I blow through over 100mL+ a week in DIY juice easily, but I did gradually step down from 24 to 3mg juice. I'm actually learning how to type one handed so I don't have to put it down to answer emails at work and reply here. I''m up to about 45 words per minute! Lol! :thumb:
     

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    I'm a lot like you Axiom. I was a 2.5 PAD smoker (maybe 3?) for decades (41 years total). I would have smoked more if it wasn't already killing me, healthwize and costwize :). I could have been one of those guys that lights the next one with the last one, saving at least 2 bucks a month on BIC lighters :). But I exercised restraint and waited at least 5 minutes in between. Unless I was driving :)

    Anywho... been vaping totally 13 1/2 months now, and had my last smoke a year ago. I think I was vaping pretty heavily in the beginning, first with eGo batts and EVODs, then a Nautilus and Mini on Provari's, now dripping and STM at usually 25W or so.

    I am definitely a "chain vaper" now, because my memory is fresh about all the chian vaping I did this morning :) I'm not sure if I'm vaping more, in terms of puffs, now vs the beginning. But I think it is only a matter of degree. I was never a couple of puffs once an hour or half hour guy. Always had my mod handy and vaped at least fairly continuously. The memory is the firs thing to go. I hope :). I think in the beginning I was vaping about 5ml a day on the EVODS and eGo batts, starting at 24mg and probably down to 18mg at some point.

    Along the way throught he Nautilus to STM/drippers my nic has gone to 3mg max now, except when I use up old DIY juice I still have at 6mg, and I am using 1mg as of a few days ago in my STM/SUbox and that is working out better than I hoped. I haven't killed anyone yet at 1mg, even if I do it all morning before hitting the harder stuff. I think I go through 15ml a day now, maybe more, I don;t track it because I use up to 4 mods a day and swap juices in the drippers and etc. Some day I have limit myself just to see. It is possible I am up to 20ml a day.

    The biggest concern I have about chain vaping is really the politics, not health issues. I would like to be less dependent on vaping for when it's not PC to be vaping or I simply can't. But I work from home and can vape all I want most of the time. I don't have any sense that excessive vaping is clogging up my lungs (any more than they were from smoking and after clearing out post quitting). But that is always cogitating around in my brain, the idea of doing anything to excess and in particular this.

    But in the meantime I love, love love vaping. Even more than I loved smoking, without the stench, the smoke in the house, my tar filling lungs and etc. All the good parts, with none of the bad parts, at least not obviously, so it's tough to cut down and force my self down.

    I am trying to get to love unflavored juice. So much cheaper even to make (really costless), no flavors to keep track of and reorder, and worry about health related issues. And all VG with a dash of nic (1mg) in a dripper is really nice. But I do like my flavors so I only do that a couple hours a day now when I think about it.
     

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    I'm a lot like you Axiom. I was a 2.5 PAD smoker (maybe 3?) for decades (41 years total). I would have smoked more if it wasn't already killing me, healthwize and costwize :). I could have been one of those guys that lights the next one with the last one, saving at least 2 bucks a month on BIC lighters :). But I exercised restraint and waited at least 5 minutes in between. Unless I was driving :)

    Anywho... been vaping totally 13 1/2 months now, and had my last smoke a year ago. I think I was vaping pretty heavily in the beginning, first with eGo batts and EVODs, then a Nautilus and Mini on Provari's, now dripping and STM at usually 25W or so.

    I am definitely a "chain vaper" now, because my memory is fresh about all the chian vaping I did this morning :) I'm not sure if I'm vaping more, in terms of puffs, now vs the beginning. But I think it is only a matter of degree. I was never a couple of puffs once an hour or half hour guy. Always had my mod handy and vaped at least fairly continuously. The memory is the firs thing to go. I hope :). I think in the beginning I was vaping about 5ml a day on the EVODS and eGo batts, starting at 24mg and probably down to 18mg at some point.

    Along the way throught he Nautilus to STM/drippers my nic has gone to 3mg max now, except when I use up old DIY juice I still have at 6mg, and I am using 1mg as of a few days ago in my STM/SUbox and that is working out better than I hoped. I haven't killed anyone yet at 1mg, even if I do it all morning before hitting the harder stuff. I think I go through 15ml a day now, maybe more, I don;t track it because I use up to 4 mods a day and swap juices in the drippers and etc. Some day I have limit myself just to see. It is possible I am up to 20ml a day.

    The biggest concern I have about chain vaping is really the politics, not health issues. I would like to be less dependent on vaping for when it's not PC to be vaping or I simply can't. But I work from home and can vape all I want most of the time. I don't have any sense that excessive vaping is clogging up my lungs (any more than they were from smoking and after clearing out post quitting). But that is always cogitating around in my brain, the idea of doing anything to excess and in particular this.

    But in the meantime I love, love love vaping. Even more than I loved smoking, without the stench, the smoke in the house, my tar filling lungs and etc. All the good parts, with none of the bad parts, at least not obviously, so it's tough to cut down and force my self down.

    I am trying to get to love unflavored juice. So much cheaper even to make (really costless), no flavors to keep track of and reorder, and worry about health related issues. And all VG with a dash of nic (1mg) in a dripper is really nice. But I do like my flavors so I only do that a couple hours a day now when I think about it.


    Yeah I know what you mean and you sound almost IDENTICAL to myself in regards to vaping. I still use a fairly high nic level though (12mg) and I suppose I should cut back on that. I used to use higher nic but I got nic sick from it. This level(12mg) doesn't seem to bother me though.

    I too like vaping more than smoking or chewing or any of the other tobacco crap I used to cram into my body including pipes, cigars and the rest of it. Yeah about the health thing, I don't really have one opinion one way or the other. I used to be more paranoid about it in the past but I am not so much so now days because I am probably just getting so used to vaping that I don't ponder upon the health aspects as much as I used to. But, I don't imagine that it is any worse than having tar build up in my lungs for almost 40 years. My mouth also loves me for not chewing so much that my gums about rotted off of my mandible.
     

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    Yes it's interesting to evaluate the changes in habit as time pass. One and half years ago, I also took to vaping without really consciously wanting to quit smoking. nic levels have decreased from 18 mg to 3-6 mg over that period but volume of vapor has increased too!!!
    Currently I have the ipv mini2 70 watt and a temp control 120 watt APV as well as many mechs. I'm certainly enjoying the hobby aspect just as much as the vaping. I only use tanks when out of the house and drippers at home, usually between 25-30 w.

    I also diy my juice and use a good 10 ml per day. This may not just be because of rda's or having found delicious recipe's but may also be because of all equipment that would sit idle if I didn't switch out and rebuild all the gear I have constantly!
     

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    Yeah I know what you mean and you sound almost IDENTICAL to myself in regards to vaping. I still use a fairly high nic level though (12mg) and I suppose I should cut back on that. I used to use higher nic but I got nic sick from it. This level(12mg) doesn't seem to bother me though.

    I too like vaping more than smoking or chewing or any of the other tobacco crap I used to cram into my body including pipes, cigars and the rest of it. Yeah about the health thing, I don't really have one opinion one way or the other. I used to be more paranoid about it in the past but I am not so much so now days because I am probably just getting so used to vaping that I don't ponder upon the health aspects as much as I used to. But, I don't imagine that it is any worse than having tar build up in my lungs for almost 40 years. My mouth also loves me for not chewing so much that my gums about rotted off of my mandible.
    By the time I was around 12mg I think I went 12--->10--->6--->3 and it was really easy and painless. The only thing I noticed was the juice tasted better because I was never big on the harsh/throat hit of the nic, in terms of taste or mouth feel or throat feel. So if you haven't tried to drop further yet you might be surprised. Or maybe I'm full of hot vape and never mind? :)

    I found cutting in half to be easy, the further down I was. I could not have gone from 24--> 12 for example, or 18-->9.

    The cool thing is that at 3mg a liter of 100mg nic is a 6.x year supply. At 1mg it would be an 18 year supply. Further vapocalypse proofing things. I just need a good cryogenic tank :)
     

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    Further vapocalypse proofing things. I just need a good cryogenic tank :)

    +1 on the savings on nicotine...... I go through quit amount of juice per day.......... I know it is about 20ml because I fill one of my 15ml bottles each day and I finish it plus another 5mg each day..... It's like my mod is glued to my hand :) I am disabled from a brain tumor I had when I was 26, plus a weird neurological disease that I acquired along the way...... I had worked in Electronics engineering but the tumor kind of did a number on me. At any rate, I too stay at home as well and can basically vape as much as I want, which I suppose does not help in cutting back. I don't want to cut back. Weird I know but that is just the way I am I suppose.
     
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    I've definitely increased my vaping since I first started. But most of that happened in the past 6 months because that's when I went from old style equipment to new. The tank I use a lot now, the GS Air, gives me so much flavor that I have a hard time putting it down. The old tanks I was using my first couple of years - protanks and t3s tanks - only gave me a hint of flavor, not a lot of air, and had to be vaped at really low wattage. I still vape in tootle puffer range - usually just 8 to 9 watts - but that and the new tanks mean I use about twice as much juice. And the flavor is exactly what I had been looking for the first couple years I vaped.
     
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    I can absolutely say that I do not vape more or less than I did when I started. The only thing that I have reduced is the nic content. Even if I got down to zero nic, I would still vape. I like the habit of vaping (as opposed to the need and habit of smoking). I cannot just sit still and do absolutely nothing with my hands. I do not know how to do that any longer....if I ever did.

    Even though my nic reduced, the amount of liquid I go through did not increase. I thought it might, to replace the nic that I was no longer getting. That didn't happen to me.
     

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    I smoked less than a PAD, and when I started vaping a 30 ml bottle of 12 mg would last me a week on an Aspire BDC. I started using more at 6 mg when I got the original MVP and a Nautilus, but stayed constant for 9 months from there. Then I got an IPV Mini 2, a couple of RDAs, and then a Lemo and a Lemo 2. Now I DIY with 3mg and go through 15-20 ml a day, at least. So quadrupled my liquid use at 1/4 the nicotine.
     
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