web md says the nicotine decreases oxygen to heart??

[nitejanitor]

Yes find a Dr. who agrees with vaping-here in northern mi drs. prefer that wonder tactic of quit or die.....

 

[Stosh]

Quit or die????
Did anyone ever mention to the ANTIs that Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gasy
went cold turkey just a few days before beginning their sprees?

 

[illillillillilli]

Quit or die????
Did anyone ever mention to the ANTIs that Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gasy
went cold turkey just a few days before beginning their sprees?

If ANTIs got their way with abolishing analogs and e-cigs... Oh my, mass hysteria! Zombie Apocalypse perhaps? Witch hunts? Nicotine cartels and gang fights?

Yes, yes because abolishing alcohol worked out for America. How is the war on drugs going? Wanna add another drug to that war? Really?!

 

[nitejanitor]

Well its better for their pocketbook not being more helpful with quit smoking ideas-this way by giving people the usual quit methods they'll either quit for real or smoke & be a return customer. But with $10 e cigs at local gas stations people can see if all the hype on tv about how sweet it is vaping instead of puffing then people can try one & if they think its an out that will work for them they can find e cig sites for help.

 

[Taniger1]

WebMD is not a particularly good sight for medical research. It tends to be a titch biased.

Nicotine CAN up your Blood Pressure. It IS vasoconstrictive (that means it makes the veins and artieries in your body smaller for those of you wondering). However, soda, coffee and any caffeine drinks can do the same thing. Frankly, soda is bad for your body (sugar and carbonic acids) and I would strongly suspect is worse for your body than vapeing is (I have NO studies to back this up, I AM a nurse who had to study nutrition, body chemistery and etc.) and they are starting to find health benefits of drinking coffee (who'd a thought?). In the long run, vapeing is better than smoking. NOBODY, medical proffesional or otherwise, can say differently. Even if it's harm reduction as opposed to harm deletion,
vapeing > smoking!!

So if I gots a choice, you betcha vapeing (and coffee) all the way.

 

[carpedebass]

Did anyone ever mention to the ANTIs that Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gasy
went cold turkey just a few days before beginning their sprees?

I heard their perspective doctors gave them prescriptions for Chantix.

 

[John Phoenix]

So, see a doctor if you're concerned. See a doctor if you have heart disease, poor circulation, are pregnant, etc.

CAUTION: I agree that you probably should see a doctor if you have heart disease, poor circulation, are pregnant, etc but remember a Doctor may not be favorable to using an E-cig, in fact most of them are not. I look at Doctor's the same way I look at Bankers and Credit Card companies, I have no use for them, I don't use their services. Doctors are great for trauma such as car wrecks or heart attacks but they do a very poor job in the general health and nutrition field. The form of health they are taught is based on pathology (the study of dead things) and pharmaceuticals (pushing drugs they call medicine). Very few of them learn any real health and get away from these medieval practices. Very few of them allow themselves be educated by other disciplines of true health such as Natural Hygiene ( the scientific study of what makes and keeps a healthy person healthy). So chances are all your doctor will know is "health" by medicine and they follow the crowd. If the pharmaceutical companies that write the medical students curriculum and provide the training and learning supplies ( and largely they do) would rather push a medical approved Nicotine Inhaler over an e-cig that's what advice your going to get right or wrong because that's all the doctor will know. Sadly in our for profit health system this is the rule rather than the exception.

Find out where your doctors training comes from and then you will understand his answer. You might get lucky and find a good doctor who really cares about health over the hyper-pharmaceutical spin they have been taught and has seen the health benefits from his patients who use e-cigs enough to counter the damage this medical culture has caused.

 

[carpedebass]

CAUTION: I agree that you probably should see a doctor if you have heart disease, poor circulation, are pregnant, etc but remember a Doctor may not be favorable to using an E-cig, in fact most of them are not. I look at Doctor's the same way I look at Bankers and Credit Card companies, I have no use for them, I don't use their services. Doctors are great for trauma such as car wrecks or heart attacks but they do a very poor job in the general health and nutrition field. The form of health they are taught is based on pathology (the study of dead things) and pharmaceuticals (pushing drugs they call medicine). Very few of them learn any real health and get away from these medieval practices. Very few of them allow themselves be educated by other disciplines of true health such as Natural Hygiene ( the scientific study of what makes and keeps a healthy person healthy). So chances are all your doctor will know is "health" by medicine and they follow the crowd. If the pharmaceutical companies that write the medical students curriculum and provide the training and learning supplies ( and largely they do) would rather push a medical approved Nicotine Inhaler over an e-cig that's what advice your going to get right or wrong because that's all the doctor will know. Sadly in our for profit health system this is the rule rather than the exception.

Find out where your doctors training comes from and then you will understand his answer. You might get lucky and find a good doctor who really cares about health over the hyper-pharmaceutical spin they have been taught and has seen the health benefits from his patients who use e-cigs enough to counter the damage this medical culture has caused.

Interesting take on the medical profession there. I only go to a Dr if I absolutely HAVE to!! I just can't afford it as I have no insurance benefits. But I have often noticed very similar things as to what you're saying. Seems they think a pill can cure everything when typically the side effects of the pill are worse than what you went to see them for. I have yet to see a Dr that really gave a crap about my health more than his or her wallet.

EDIT...I am in NO WAY saying people should not go to the Dr...or that they should follow my "path" here. I would likely go more often for check ups, etc if I had the insurance to do so. But I would likely not allow them to prescribe a bunch of pills for me that I deem unnecessary.