Inhaling

[zuzette]

I have noticed that I can't inhale the vapor like I do with analogs. Is this common?

I really cough a lot! Right now im just holding the vapor in my mouth but Im not getting a lot of satisfaction. Im using a 50/50 pg vg mix at 24 mg.

would a different base help? Also, since im not inhaling would I get more satisfaction from a higher content?

My goal is to get off the analogs. That wont happen without more satisfaction

Since it will be asked....i am using a kgo with standard carts at the moment, though i do have a cartomizer on order.

thanks much!

 

[shortofbreath]

Wait till you get your cartomizer. It becomes a whole new world....that happened to me. I'll never use the atomizer on my battery again. Poor vapor production. Make sure you take the time to fill your cartomizer correctly. And I learned from here, that snap, crackle, pop sound you will get is the sound of a well filled cartomizer...so don't worry!!! The vapor you want and need is on its way.

 

[meli.]

Zuzette, hi and welcome,
I'm not quite understanding what you mean, do you take a puff, hold it your mouth and breath in?
It's quite hard to explain inhaling in writing - isn't it?
It seems to me you're getting quite a big Throat Hit, this could be all sorts of reasons, the strength of juice and also your carts. I don't use carts so I really can't comment on that - don't know if you can get dry hits on those
Perhaps someone else will chime in
PG gives quite a big TH so maybe thats it, I use 30/70 pg/vg. It's a lot smoother.
Try taking a smaller inhale and seeing what happens, with the above technique?
I understand that you will get your Nic Fix, with out inhaling, as it's absorbed through the tissue linings in mouth, but I really don't think you need to up your Nic intake, because that also increases TH.
After all, we all want to have a happy vaping experience , and boy have I been green around the gills with too much Nic

 

[zuzette]

ive got plenty of vapor....just cant inhale any of it without coughing my ... off. seems so weird to me since i am a 30 year plus smoker!

i want the nic satisfaction. i want to feel good too.

is this just learning curve?

if i had coughed as much when i started smoking as i do with vapping....i never would have smoked in the first place. ah irony!

 

[onizuka]

My guess is it is the throat hit.

At 50/50 pg/vg with 0 mg nicotine I get zero throat hit, it is nice and creamy.

At 50/50 pg/vg with 6 mg nicotine I get throat hit, and it is a little bit bothersome sometimes.

My guess is that at 24 mg nicotine, your throat hit is huge.

I'm planning to vape what I have of 6 mg and just have a tiny bit of 6 mg on hand but only have 0 mg there after.

 

[zuzette]

understanding throat hit is helpful. thank you. would all vg be better? if i could do 0 nic i would try it but, for now i really want that nic!

so options might be to lighten the nic fr less throat hit...but potentially increasing satisfaction through lung absorbtion of the nic

or....as was my original thought...increase the nic for better nic hit through mouth absorbtion...

or trying new mixes of vg pg?

thanks for the replies i love this forum

 

[onizuka]

I think if you're at 50/50 pg/vg going to 30/70 pg/vg or 20/80 pg/vg might help. I find that vg doesn't make the vape smoother, it just gives the vape a creamy texture to it. I think the major irritant is really the nicotine. Perhaps try 18 mg or 12 mg first. I'd get a small bottle of each. I find that I myself, a half a pack a day kind of person, am vaping a ton. I vape inside my house and in front of my computer, so my nicotine uptake is huge in comparison to what it used to be. I don't think I'm addicted to the nicotine though, I think I'm really addicted to watching huge plumes of smoke tumbling from my lips.

It's really hard to say, hehe. You might want to try some stuff from these vendors.

Mt Baker Vapor
BlueMist Vaping
MaddCatt Vapors

They are all pretty inexpensive. I think MaddCatt runs a lot of deals each week, so just watch for their coupons.

 

[meli.]

understanding throat hit is helpful. thank you. would all vg be better? if i could do 0 nic i would try it but, for now i really want that nic!

so options might be to lighten the nic fr less throat hit...but potentially increasing satisfaction through lung absorbtion of the nic

or trying new mixes of vg pg?

I think you'd be on a winner with this.
I think trying out with no nic just to experiment with the inhale thing would save your nic juice and help you understand the difference, I think onizuka is correct tho, small steps - saves you money and also adds to your enjoyment.

 

[Yves]

I have noticed that I can't inhale the vapor like I do with analogs. Is this common?

I really cough a lot! Right now im just holding the vapor in my mouth but Im not getting a lot of satisfaction. Im using a 50/50 pg vg mix at 24 mg.

would a different base help? Also, since im not inhaling would I get more satisfaction from a higher content?

My goal is to get off the analogs. That wont happen without more satisfaction

Since it will be asked....i am using a kgo with standard carts at the moment, though i do have a cartomizer on order.

thanks much!

Hello and Welcome to ECF

Vaping is not the same as smoking so you do need a different technique. Do you cough a lot normally? I have a friend that has a similar problem. You will get your nic fix by holding the vapour in your mouth, but you sound as though you need to inhale to get the satisfaction you are looking for.

Try taking a long slow draw on the KGO, try 3 secs to begin with, hold it in your mouth for 2 more seconds, blow a little out, then inhale the rest see if that helps.

If no one has already told you please drink a LOT of water this is iimportant....PG and VG will both dry you out and that in itself may be making you cough more. Any fluid other than alcohol, will do if you are not a water drinker.

Is it the Throat Hit that is making you cough? If so you may find a lower nic content may help you.

Just another thought are you using the carts that can free with the KGO kit?

 

[meli.]

Yves, are we not allowed to to vape and drink?
There goes all our fun!

 

[akocpao]

Hello! You're coughing because you were used to analog smoke for so long and you still aren't used to vapor from pv devices. No need to worry you'll get used to it in a few days. This happened to me too, no matter what nic lvl juice i tried, 12 to 6 to 0 mg nic, i kept coughing, then my friend told me it was normal so i kept vaping, then a week later i could inhale all of it without coughing. I mean inhaling really satisfying plumes of vapor, btw i use 12mg nic now to satisfy throat hit and nic cravings. Oh and getting off the analogs helped.

 

[Yves]

Yves, are we not allowed to to vape and drink?
There goes all our fun!

Made me laugh today thank you I needed that.... you can drink but alcohol dehydrates the same way as PG/VG.....

 

[Ratman]

Definitely try a lower nic dose! I experienced the same thing when I bought a bottle of 24 of a flavor I was wanting to try that they were out of in 18 mg. Try a 12 - 18 mg and vape more often if you feel the cravings. A big part is finding the right nic level to start with.

Something I did was get another bottle of the same flavor as my 24mg in a 6mg and mix the two to get a 15mg. That way my 24 didn't go to waste. Worked perfectly. Could do the same thing with a 0mg juice if available to get a 12mg. Of course that is only useful if you like the original flavor heh

 

[Freecats]

i think, a lower nic-level will help, but perhaps it is just your lung, wich is cleaning itself - i coughed al lot the first days.
But i also played around with the nic-levels, i ordered every flavor in two strengths - 24mg and 0 mg and mixed it. This way i could find a strength i liked.

 

[ChodaBoy]

one thing I've noticed is that vapor is thicker than the smoke from an Analog. I spoke with my doctor not long after i started vaping and gave him a run down of what was in the juice. His assessment on them was that PG is something medicine uses to suspend inhaled meds for one reason because it expands alot once it hits the lungs. logically i would think that the coughing you are experiencing may be your 30 years of clogged bronchi being stretched back out just an idea. i had the same problem with coughing but after i started expelling all the crap i was coughing up i went away

 

[Scott_Simpson]

I have noticed that I can't inhale the vapor like I do with analogs. Is this common?

Yes, especially if you try to drag on a PV like you do an analog ... most analog smokers drag directly into the lungs; I've discovered through painful experience that this doesn't work well with PVs, especially if you're vaping high nic content (18-26 mg). A two-step dragging process works better and is kinder to your throat: draw the vapor into your mouth and hold it there, then open your mouth and drag that mouthful of vapor along with a healthy dose of outside air and bob's your uncle! Hope that helps ...

 

[Motoman101]

Take long slow controlled mouth in hales. Then into lungs

 

[Kay1959]

Somehow I don't think your problem is the 24 mgs of nicotine, but the way you are vaping. Vaping is alittle different than smoking. And BTW, you probably DID cough up a gut when you first started smoking, it's just been so long ago you don't remember it.

How Kay vapes:

1) I press the heat button and bring the device up to my lips. This takes about the 2 seconds it needs to heat the juice.
2) I slowly inhale (take into my mouth) for about 3 seconds, and inhale a smig of air, and then continue to inhale for 2 more seconds. (This slight air intake helps me taste the flavor more.)
3) I slowly exhale through my nose. This way I can taste more flavor.

You're not really inhaling into your lungs here. The nicotine is absorbed in your mouth and sinus cavities.

When I first started vaping I too had a cough (where I didn't when I was smoking) There are two possible reasons for this. Firstly, your body is trying to heal itself...and just like if you were quitting cold turkey, it's going to take some time for your body to heal. After awhile of vaping I lost that cough. Secondly, you might be vaping wrong, because vaping isn't the same as smoking.

Do drink lots of fluids (alcohol if you must) It dosen't matter really if it's water or something else. Water is just better for you and cleans your palete better. I've also found that sucking on a mint works just as well. Vaping dries you out because you are actually exhaling your bodies moisture, so it needs to be replaced. Hope this helps!

Welcome to ECF!

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

@zuzette
Are you using an atomizer/cartridge combination right now? If so, could the problem be with the atomizer? Could it be that there is primer in it? Could it be a burnt atomizer? Just askin cuz I only use cartomizers (no tank).
Hope you can get some satisfaction from your Kgo. My Kgo is just great.