Initial Charge?

[hovhaness]

Just received mine today.
Camel, Vanilla & Cappuccino flavors included lol
A question..
Do these need to charge initially for 8 hours?
I only ask because the first battery I plugged in seemed to already
have a charge.
I hit the release button as instructed before plugging it in & heard
the discharge sound.

Thanks

Will def get back with a review once I give it a try.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

I charged one for 8 hours and one for about an hour and both are running the same. No need for the full 8 imo.

 

[Shining Wit]

No they do not need an 8 hour charge, no lithium battery of that size does.
For more detailed info use the search facility for 'battery charge'.
John C.

 

[KreeL]

I've personally experimented with these. One battery taken off when green, the other conditioned as per manufacturers specs.

The conditioned battery has outlasted and outperformed by a very noticeable degree.

#1 RULE -- regardless of what you have read or what you may think. Lithium technology is advancing. The 510 lithium batts are different from 901 lithium batts. They will still work when removed when it just turns green, but if you want the maximum enjoyment from your 510 - follow the manufacturers instructions and charge initially for 8 hours, vape for apx. 20 minutes and then charge an additional hour. I also leave mine on for 2 hrs. per charge after that.

Many here won't understand it, and even I don't understand it. But I've done the experiment, and I know there is a difference.

Just read the Battery University site information. They stress to FOLLOW THE MANUFACTURERS INSTRUCTIONS.

Nobody wants to wait on their new 510, but in this case you will be glad you did in the long run. If not, in about 2 months you'll be posting a 'my 510 batts aren't lasting' thread and I can say I told you so.

 

[Kelemvor]

well, i believe more in the theorie of www.batteryuniversity.com :

Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days.

Charging lithium-ion batteries

i find most of what is written there very true.

#1 RULE -- regardless of what you have read or what you may think. Lithium technology is advancing.

well and because of that we are forced to old initcharges ?
the circuit stops at ~4.2V , varies with charger and protected battery type.
but it stops, no matter how long you let the battery sit inside the powered charger.
so where is the need ?

second: using the battery for a few minutes, then charge again soem time.
reads like a translating failure from the chinese.
its correct that this would not harm the batterie, nothing more.

my conclusion is: this rule only became valid because everyone copied the false translated text from the other.



btw: yes, better read battery university

 

[SavePaperVapor]

Indeed. When that light turns green, the charge IS cut off. By cut off, this means the battery is sitting in the charger, doing nothing. The batteries also have a cutoff from getting totally drained which protects the batteries from failure. When you get the flashing tip there is still juice left but the battery won't allow you to use it. These batteries are smarter than the average bear. Haha

 

[applefr3ak]

do you really think it doesnt periodically check the charge? have you ever watched a batt charge? how the light flickers a bit? just a thought.. dunno..

 

[Shining Wit]

I've personally experimented with these. One battery taken off when green, the other conditioned as per manufacturers specs.

The conditioned battery has outlasted and outperformed by a very noticeable degree.

#1 RULE -- regardless of what you have read or what you may think. Lithium technology is advancing. The 510 lithium batts are different from 901 lithium batts. They will still work when removed when it just turns green, but if you want the maximum enjoyment from your 510 - follow the manufacturers instructions and charge initially for 8 hours, vape for apx. 20 minutes and then charge an additional hour. I also leave mine on for 2 hrs. per charge after that.

Many here won't understand it, and even I don't understand it. But I've done the experiment, and I know there is a difference.

Just read the Battery University site information. They stress to FOLLOW THE MANUFACTURERS INSTRUCTIONS.

Nobody wants to wait on their new 510, but in this case you will be glad you did in the long run. If not, in about 2 months you'll be posting a 'my 510 batts aren't lasting' thread and I can say I told you so.

With all due respect, your test is hardly at scientific level. If you could see the programming of the microprocessor that controls your lithium batteries you would understand that the '8 hour initial charge' or 'vape 20 minutes and recharge' really is an old wives tale. They are programmed to tell you when to recharge them, they tell you when they are charged and just in case, they cut off the power when they are charged. If they are programmed by a smoker they tell the vaporiser to behave like a cigarette. They are smarter than us and one day will rule the world, unless Dr Who turns up in the nick of time;-)
John C.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

do you really think it doesnt periodically check the charge? have you ever watched a batt charge? how the light flickers a bit? just a thought.. dunno..

Thats exactly what the charger is doing when it flashes. When the battery reads full it no longer charges. It's just sitting in there, doing absolutely nothing.