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Reads like an advertorial. The link in the article leads directly to the innokin website.
I am aware of the fact that it is an advertisement.
I was wondering if this German laboratory "TUV Rhineland declared that Innokin Technology E Cigarettes refill cartridges passed new German Food and Feed Act LFGB in February 2012." means they went or are going through regulatory body or intend to apply for something of the sort.
As far as I know, a TüV certification means nothing more than that the tested product is not against the law and meets some safety criteria (meaning it won't kill you on the spot). That's why most German and a lot of European products have a TüV label (for example electrical devices). It's something of a status symbol to have on your product: if not present, people will think there's something wrong with it. But I'm sure someone else will have a better answer.
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Just as jtpjc said, it doesnt really mean a lot. The certificate is issued after some limited tests designed to answer the question if a product is suitable for contact with food stuff. See, for example, requirements for LFGB certification here at Pony test lab. Manufacturer (probably not Innokin) sends a sample cartrige to the test lab (TÜV Rheinland). At the lab, someone grabs this cartridge to test how it feels in his hands, and holds it under his nose to test how it smells. And they analyze the sample cart for extractable heavy metals. Issued certificate states that the tested cartridge was feeling and smelling good, and did not release more heavy metals than allowed for food packaging, in other words passed LFGB specifications. This piece of paper would be needed for trading products that get in contact with food. Otherwise, its not more than an additional badge slapped on the package.
In their PR, company Innokin just took such a certificate to create a false impression about what wonders they would be doing concerning quality control and safety for the consumer. To the opposite, its actually indicating a sad state of affairs if such a certificate is touted like a big achievement.
Well, good on Innokin if the source is their PR office. Because (<declare interest>) I'm vaping on a Lea 800 right now and it's a great PV for me.</declare interest>.
But the actual content of this result is, in scientific terms, pretty minimal. They've declared the containers that deliver the e-liquid to the atomizer to be safe. I have 10 of these containers. Right now the one I'm vaping is filled with some nice Maple Tobacco juice from Alba Vapours. But I could choose to fill it with 100% nicotine. Or cyanide. Or bleach.
There is some content to this story; in that if some panicked opponent of vaping resorts to the desperate argument that "the plastic in cartridges causes cancer, heart disease, flatulence and even heartbreak" then this result would stand against them. But to claim that it's a declaration that the whole package is safe is, quite simply - and as a dedicated fan of the Lea myself, I say this - utter spin. (I'm positive the package IS quite safe, but I dislike extravagant claims).
You make an interesting point, but I'm not sure it holds up. If someone had access to 100% nicotine, cyanide or bleach, it seems like there's a lot more dangerous places you could put it than an e-cig atomizer. I'm not a toxicologist, but it seems like even mixing 100% nicotine (or anything else) with at least 10,000 parts AIR would make it objectively LESS hazardous than left in its concentrated liquid form.
Because of the inherent dangers of lighting something on fire and inhaling the smoke, it is easy to assume that vaping something would be more dangerous than more traditional methods of consumption like drinking or chewing...but think about it, which do you think is more likely to cause a problem: 1. Vaping 1ml of e-liquid. (or) 2. Drinking 1ml of e-liquid. In fact, one of the biggest "dangers" documented about e-cigs is the potential for faulty or leaky cartridges: Imagine if one of the biggest risks of cigarettes was that they can break and leak some 1.6% nicotine on you!
I would like to know that the containers we are using are safe. In fact I don't know if the plastic cartos or the filler in the metal ones is safe or not. Some of these juices seem to react with plastics and I have no idea what chemicals may or may not be leaching into the juice.
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