After wasting $30 on an istick all I'm waiting to find out about the MVP3 is how easy/difficult the button is to use in the new location. I don't need/want high wattage, just longer battery life than my VV v3s and V4 have.
Innokin MVP 3.0 Specs
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I'm not impressed. I liked the MVP 2 so much that after the threads on the first one wore out, I bought another one. It was a great Box Mod for 2013 and most of 2014 but now, there is so much competition out there it's not even funny.
The only thing that would have made me carry around a mod this size is 100-150 watts of power. In my opinion, the size of this mod does not constitute the power it carries. Isn't the istick 50 smaller than this with a larger battery and more power? If eleaf could do it then why couldn't Innokin. With the size of the MVP 3, I'd expect it to have a 5,000 mAh battery and if it did, I would have bought it.
Also, get rid of that stupid built in cable. Nice idea Pbusardo.............NOT
The only thing that would have made me carry around a mod this size is 100-150 watts of power. In my opinion, the size of this mod does not constitute the power it carries. Isn't the istick 50 smaller than this with a larger battery and more power? If eleaf could do it then why couldn't Innokin. With the size of the MVP 3, I'd expect it to have a 5,000 mAh battery and if it did, I would have bought it.
Also, get rid of that stupid built in cable. Nice idea Pbusardo.............NOT
Why did you waste the money? I was thinking about buying an iStick 50. My local B&M will have them for $50 with a life time warranty. I figured that couldn't be beat.
30 watts is enough for most single coil builds and some dual coils
@ 30 Watts
Examples
Single coils:
.5 24g coil, 265 mW/mm^2
.5 26g coil, 531 mW/mm^2
.5 28g coil, 1065 mW/mm^2
1 24g coil, 132 mW/mm^2
1 26g coil, 266 mW/mm^2
1 28g coil, 533 mW/mm^2
1.5 24g coil, 88 mW/mm^2
1.5 26g coil, 177 mW/mm^2
1.5 28g coil, 355 mW/mm^2
2.0 26g coil, 133 mW/mm^2
2.0 28g coil, 266 mW/mm^2
Dual coils:
.5 26g coils, 133 mW/mm^2
.5 28g coils, 266 mW/mm^2
The battery will also NEVER reach its amp limit due to it being so high for the device.
A .4 Coil with the device maxed will pull 8.66 amps
A .5 Coil with the device maxed will pull 7.74 amps
A .6 Coil with the device maxed will pull 7.07 amps
A 1.5 Coil with the device maxed will pull 4.47 amps.
Overall it looks like a fantastic device, and the only single coils it wouldn't be able to fully power are 24g or thicker singles above 1ohm.
@ 30 Watts
Examples
Single coils:
.5 24g coil, 265 mW/mm^2
.5 26g coil, 531 mW/mm^2
.5 28g coil, 1065 mW/mm^2
1 24g coil, 132 mW/mm^2
1 26g coil, 266 mW/mm^2
1 28g coil, 533 mW/mm^2
1.5 24g coil, 88 mW/mm^2
1.5 26g coil, 177 mW/mm^2
1.5 28g coil, 355 mW/mm^2
2.0 26g coil, 133 mW/mm^2
2.0 28g coil, 266 mW/mm^2
Dual coils:
.5 26g coils, 133 mW/mm^2
.5 28g coils, 266 mW/mm^2
The battery will also NEVER reach its amp limit due to it being so high for the device.
A .4 Coil with the device maxed will pull 8.66 amps
A .5 Coil with the device maxed will pull 7.74 amps
A .6 Coil with the device maxed will pull 7.07 amps
A 1.5 Coil with the device maxed will pull 4.47 amps.
Overall it looks like a fantastic device, and the only single coils it wouldn't be able to fully power are 24g or thicker singles above 1ohm.
Maybe Innokin is sticking with it's "signature" styling. You know, like a Dodge front grille. There's no mistaking it for something else. It's their brand. Otherwise, they missed the boat. I see other mods that are much more stylistically appealing.
Anyway, I would probably buy something else, but admit that the iTaste MVP was the first mod that I used after moving from egos. I still have two of them sitting on my desk at work that get used daily with IBTanked carto tanks. I alternate between the two and easily get a full week on the pair.
There may be a market for this but it will have to be very competitive as far as price.
Anyway, I would probably buy something else, but admit that the iTaste MVP was the first mod that I used after moving from egos. I still have two of them sitting on my desk at work that get used daily with IBTanked carto tanks. I alternate between the two and easily get a full week on the pair.
There may be a market for this but it will have to be very competitive as far as price.
But given the option of a disposable device vs. one that they can charge via USB and change the battery out when it is toast I am sure many would go withe the device that is future-proof. Buy a few batteries now or buy a brand new device when the onboard battery decides to call it quits. In the MVP group the two biggest things people wanted to see in a new MVP were flush 510 connection (done) and a user replaceable battery.
Future proof? How long do you really expect $40-$50 made in China devices are going to last? There's pretty good chance the threads will strip, the buttons will stop working, or something else will go wrong with the electronics before a built-in battery becomes useless. For $50 I'm fine with buying another device in a year. I'd rather buy the new model than spend $30-$50 on batteries and a charger just to probably have to replace a malfunctioning device in a year or two anyway. If Innokin went with replaceable batteries it would be just like those other devices. That's not Innokins market. If most vapers really wanted replaceable batteries the iStick wouldn't be selling like crazy. This site isn't an accurate representation of vapers in general. At least 90% of the people I see vaping at work, stores, bars/clubs, etc., are using an iStick, MVP, ego type battery, etc. That is Innokins market.
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I don't own an iStick but I do own two MVP's. That being said, I think eLeaf is beating Inookin at their own game.
Future proof to an extent. The target audience you are talking about does not want to buy something new all the time. When the battery finally stops taking a charge in their MVP it is trash. Unless they want to attempt to replace it on their own. A user replaceable battery would give their device a longer device. There are still plenty of MVP's going strong. It was one of the more durable of the Chinese devices.
But OK. You seem to know the vaping population better than me. I just know from having an MVP last year that one of the biggest complaints in the user forum was it not having a non-replaceable battery. I know mine started losing battery life after a few months. Now if they fixed the weak threads the MVP 3.0 has the potential to be a device that could last a few years. With a replaceable battery that is.
so I'm hearing it's at the cheapest $70? The only people I see buying this are huge fans of innokin.
At least one vendor has them for $60, might drop a bit more once they're actually widely available.
If sales are soft, the price will drop.
This seems spot-on to me.
Bulletproof, Two or Three days of battery life for many users, more power than most will ever use..
Gonna sell like crazy.
This seems spot-on to me.
Bulletproof, Two or Three days of battery life for many users, more power than most will ever use..
Gonna sell like crazy.
I wouldn't really call them bullet proof. I broke the ego threads on an MVP 2 after dropping it and stripped the threads on another MVP 2 after about 5 months of use.
They no longer have EGO threads.
Flush 510 with a included adapter.
Just like the MVP20W
Eric
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It seems a tad bigger than previous versions tho, so that might bother some.
Me?
Not really.
Eric
Well mine has been bulletproof.
It's been dropped onto concrete 3X's from 6ft up and still going strong Two Years later, still charging to 4.2V.
I would expect no less of this newer version.
Threads have been fine.
It's been dropped onto concrete 3X's from 6ft up and still going strong Two Years later, still charging to 4.2V.
I would expect no less of this newer version.
Threads have been fine.
I'm going to buy a couple because I trust Innokins products. My MVP2 and my VTR have been there when my newer mods fizzled. Need Great back ups on top of great backups IMO 
I got the 20 for my vapeversary. Lousy power management, couldn't do low wattage, soft threads and easily scratched finish. Not that I used it long enough to damage the finish.
You can order them now from VaporTekUSA for $57 if you use their 5% off discount.
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