Innovative or ignorant? I vote ignorant...

[Jay-dub]

I posed these questions in another thread but I was a bit off topic from the OP...


Why a coil instead of a spiral (like the heating element on an electric stove)? I figure the spiral shape would have more surface area. If it was recessed into a "wet stone" there would be no need for a wick or fear of burning it. The ignite button could also be a mechanical pump button to flush just enough liquid (a drop or two each push) into the recessed channels of the wet stone containing the spiral element. This would be for BCC tanks but seems like wet stone would be a lot easer to maintain. And, if you did your own coils at home you'd have a recessed spiral template that you just simply trace with the coil. Craziness?

Okay. Two questions. Why? And craziness?

 

[tA71ana]

I posed these questions in another thread but I was a bit off topic from the OP...


Why a coil instead of a spiral (like the heating element on an electric stove)? I figure the spiral shape would have more surface area. If it was recessed into a "wet stone" there would be no need for a wick or fear of burning it. The ignite button could also be a mechanical pump button to flush just enough liquid (a drop or two each push) into the recessed channels of the wet stone containing the spiral element. This would be for BCC tanks but seems like wet stone would be a lot easer to maintain. And, if you did your own coils at home you'd have a recessed spiral template that you just simply trace with the coil. Craziness?

Okay. Two questions. Why? And craziness?

No, not ignorant nor crazy.
Brainstorming is the first step to innovation

 

[Jay-dub]

I'm just so new that these suggestions are pretty uninformed.

 

[Revelene]

I've tried something like this before and put it on a bed of organic cotton. It worked pretty well but vapor production was mediocre at best.

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[grayscale]

I've often wondered why coils at all, surely there's some other way to vaporize the liquid. All inventions are born of curiosity.

 

[cmdebrecht]

You're innovative and I am ignorant! I am just happy there people in the world who are better at all this stuff than I am. I have no idea how or why stuff works, I am just happy it does.

 

[gotch23]

No... not crazy...
Flat spiral coil... I've seen one on this forum recently on top of some cotton.
Maybe Revelene's? Don't remember and can't find it.

Wet stone: Ceramic wicks are being used for Genesis atomizers.

I am sure you can concoct something workable out of that.

 

[Jay-dub]

I've tried something like this before and put it on a bed of organic cotton. It worked pretty well but vapor production was mediocre at best.

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My hope was that a spiral in wet stone channels would be well saturated with liquid and produce a good vape. As soon as I get some spending money Imagonna play around with a routing tool and different rocks...

 

[degnr8]

Give it a shot Jay. Those kinds of questions are why we have decent vape gear now.

ETA: You might get more constructive feedback in the modding forum. Somebody there may already be thinking along the same lines and be able to tell you about their experience

 

[Silent Scream]

I don't think e cigs with an electric stove attached would be very portable. Good idea for at home maybe?

 

[Steam Turbine]

Nice idea.

One question: How would you supply efficient airflow?

 

[Thrasher]

ok something to mindful of.
several of the organic compounds (rocks as you put it) can release harmful substances when heated. so take that in consideration while breathing you experiments.

as for why a coil? vaping is just now opening the flood gates and many new ideas are yet to be discovered, what many newer people think are well established practices are actually recent inventions and ideas.

and quite simply when rebuilding started the idea was something better then a cartridge full of juice and the quickest way to rebuild something was to wrap a coil around some wick material.
poking around the rba then the actual modders forum will show a community hard at work brainstorming new ideas.

seems like a million years ago but i remember when some posted about this new thing called a genisis atomizer using SS mesh for a wick. and people using old syringe bodies for the first carto tanks.

One question: How would you supply efficient airflow?

this could be accomplished with something like the airtube in the Orion V3 it is a small tube that comes off the airhole and directs air onto the coil.

 

[Revelene]

My hope was that a spiral in wet stone channels would be well saturated with liquid and produce a good vape. As soon as I get some spending money Imagonna play around with a routing tool and different rocks...

Definitely let us know how that turns out! I'm always on the hunt for different ways to vape and this idea could be a keeper.

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[Snickerfritz]

I've often wondered why coils at all, surely there's some other way to vaporize the liquid. All inventions are born of curiosity.

My daughter, with asthma, uses a nebulizer which somehow creates a vapor out of a liquid, but I haven't for the life of me figured out how it, erm, nebulizes.

 

[Thrasher]

My daughter, with asthma, uses a nebulizer which somehow creates a vapor out of a liquid, but I haven't for the life of me figured out how it, erm, nebulizes.

air pressure, it is more of a mist. somewhere in the UK i believe, they were working on an ecig that worked like this, dont know what came of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebulizer

 

[GoodNews!]

I truly think that new systems need to be developed. I don't believe that the current coil-wick system (as it's bought in stores) does well with the properties of about %99 of the juices out there, which are made to be vaped. Vendors promote this coil-wick system as something anyone can use to fill-n-go. However, the assertion just doesn't stand up, and I hardly ever hear of a working device where someone didn't have to take out a wick, flip a grommet, replace the wick, let it soak over night, do 14 primer puffs, dripping juice all over the head, ect ect. I believe that for vaping to truly take off the ground, a system needs to be invented that works easily both for newbies and experienced vapers.

That being said, bottom-feeder devices (not bottom coil), from what I've seen, seem to be a pretty grand alternative. Not that I've tried one, but I really want to.

 

[B1sh0p]

I truly think that new systems need to be developed. I don't believe that the current coil-wick system (as it's bought in stores) does well with the properties of about %99 of the juices out there, which are made to be vaped. Vendors promote this coil-wick system as something anyone can use to fill-n-go. However, the assertion just doesn't stand up, and I hardly ever hear of a working device where someone didn't have to take out a wick, flip a grommet, replace the wick, let it soak over night, do 14 primer puffs, dripping juice all over the head, ect ect. I believe that for vaping to truly take off the ground, a system needs to be invented that works easily both for newbies and experienced vapers.

That being said, bottom-feeder devices (not bottom coil), from what I've seen, seem to be a pretty grand alternative. Not that I've tried one, but I really want to.

Bottom feeders are coil/wick systems.

 

[Iffy]

You build 'it' and we'll...

 

[D. Waterhouse]

I truly think that new systems need to be developed. I don't believe that the current coil-wick system (as it's bought in stores) does well with the properties of about %99 of the juices out there, which are made to be vaped. Vendors promote this coil-wick system as something anyone can use to fill-n-go. However, the assertion just doesn't stand up, and I hardly ever hear of a working device where someone didn't have to take out a wick, flip a grommet, replace the wick, let it soak over night, do 14 primer puffs, dripping juice all over the head, ect ect. I believe that for vaping to truly take off the ground, a system needs to be invented that works easily both for newbies and experienced vapers.

That being said, bottom-feeder devices (not bottom coil), from what I've seen, seem to be a pretty grand alternative. Not that I've tried one, but I really want to.

Smoktech ARO Pyrex Glass BCC It's been plug and play for me for 3 months so far. You don't hear about the stuff that works because everybody on the forums is trying to find solutions for the stuff that doesn't.

 

[grayscale]

I don't think e cigs with an electric stove attached would be very portable. Good idea for at home maybe?

lol


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