Intellicig is on top of the research world

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Full Media Release 04.02.10
Intellicig is on top of the research world

Leading electronic cigarette brand Intellicig has been accepted into one of the world's top centres for biomedical research.

To make their products the healthiest and cleanest on the market, Intellicig has established a laboratory at Manchester’s Bioscience Incubator to perform their own clinical trials on their products.

Working in partnership with the University of Manchester Incubator Company (UMIC), Intellicig has access to state-of-the-art laboratories fully accredited for bioscience and biotech developments and in-house mentoring and professional services.

David Newns, Intellicig commercial director, said: “Being accepted into the UMIC programme is another positive step forward in the development of our products.

“We take quality control very seriously and our commitment to reinvestment will ensure that we are able to produce the safest and most reliable products on the market.

“Forming this partnership with UMIC will help us reach even higher standards and will also facilitate our clinical trials which are a prerequisite as far as Intellicig is concerned.”

Intellicig has already invested heavily in producing their own brand of nicotine liquid ‘e-liquid’ right here in the UK, the only company currently doing so.

ECOpure has been perfected through intensive research, testing and stringent quality control and is distinct from their competitors, who use e-liquid imported from abroad containing unmonitored chemicals.

“Taking up residence in the 86,500 square feet UMIC laboratory and office complex located in the heart of Manchester’s health corridor will enable us to further develop our nicotine solution,” said David.

“Being affiliated with such an academically supportive company and gives our customers reassurance and will help to dispel any negativity surrounding electronic cigarettes.”

To complement their technical development and to cater for their surge in sales, Intellicig has commissioned a new Operations Room to be built at their Accrington headquarters, which will provide a modern and effective logistics base for the distribution team.
Intellicig is available in three colours; traditional, black and silver, with red or blue glowing tips, and can be purchased online at www.intellicig.com.



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Isn't it made of all pharma grade ingredients, unlike Ecopure?

Dear Crossbow, try reloading your weapon with something that resembles the truth if you want to come hunting me down:D

We use ALL pharmaceutical (I can spell the whole word) ingredients and, unlike another company whose lab report was funnier than Les Dawson's biography and as credible as an episode of Thunderbirds, we have Laboratory reports by one of the most respected University Facilities in Europe and the figures in that report really do add up; if we say 36mg we mean 36mg and the report will show that without having to resort to the Duckworth Lewis method of Nicotine strength determination.
Try renting a laboratory at UMIC without proving your credibility and integrity and you will appreciate where I am coming from.
Yes I made a tongue in cheek remark.....that's just me!;)
John.

Pass the popcorn love :)

PS US readers will have to Google quite a bit to understand my post but I still love you xxx
 
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I'm afraid my degree is in chemistry, not rhetoric or English, so I tend not to use the long forms of easily shortened words, it's terribly inefficient, and frankly extremely dull.
However, if unnecessary verbosity is something you find aesthetically pleasing, I suppose I can indulge you. It will certainly provide a change from my usually concise, if rather terse, writing style.

It's rather strange, but unless your website lies (and perish the thought, after all, everyone knows that your products are "fully assembled in the UK") your NCP's contain food grade flavourings, rather than just pharmaceutical grade ones (not that there are many). And if that wasn't bad enough, shock horror - none of those food grade flavourings are known to be safe to inhale. At least TW do an NCP that contains ONLY pharmaceutical (did reading that word typed fully make you happy? I must admit I found it rather dull) grade chemicals, last time I tried ecopure krystal, admittedly some time ago (and since you raised the issue of spelling, what on earth is krystal? Is it like crystal, only kooler?) it wasn't flavouring free, by any stretch.
Is 2-Ethyl-3-hydroxy-4-pyranone (a chemical of which you seem inordinately fond) the next 2,3-Butanedione?

Getting the heating and inhalation of food grade chemicals approved as part of medicinal product could well be a hard fight. Where's your clinical data? Do a 5 year clinical trial, then apply for an MA, if that is the road you want to take. Don't force it on me in the name of greed the greater good.
Don't expect people to see your actions as anything other than narrowminded self interest, because they clearly aren't.



I should also point out that I don't buy TW's PI, because it's overpriced, or ecopure because it is so incredibly dull (it started well, but was soon 'improved' to blandness) although that may be a point in it's favour if it becomes the UK's medicine of choice for treating nicotine junkies, poor sad hopeless substance abusers that we are.

What happens with the MHRA doesn't seem terribly likely to affect me, since I source my nicotine containing liquid from elsewhere in the EU. It may well, however, matter a great deal to the future of vaping as something that can be enjoyed as an alternative to smoking, rather than just another NRT.
 

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Perfectionist;1075387 and I'm sure that TW will do a 180 and end up following Intelli's example .......................... eventually ;)[/QUOTE said:
Don't you mean a 360?:sneaky:

Directly attributable to pillbox38 aka Jason Cropper, director of Totally Wicked and The Electronic Cigarette Company.

QUOTE: This is a massive market business wise..we now have some of the bigger fish sniffing around...They can buy me out in 2 years, but before then i want to hand them a fully trialed, NHS therapy...And for me my goal re ecigs is attained..the increase in sales helps tremendously as it means are finances can purchase better artillary

Bring on
Lyra Belacqua and the Golden Compass:rolleyes:
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Please remove the affiliate code from your sig or I will have to remove all of your posts which would be such a shame as you have made a good contribution to this debate.
Also, to all members posting on our forum, please keep it civil and don't start throwing insults as this has been probably the most constructive debate on the subject. We can agree to disagree.
Best wishes
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Explains why you don't have any understanding of Economics or Commerce :rolleyes:
On the other hand, as I run a moderately successful small business (which is in no way ecig related), clearly I do understand commerce. I wouldn't claim to understand economics, but given the recent financial woes, clearly economists don't either.
Perhaps you should use your education to try and formulate a better Juice for e-cigs ...... because you're obviously totally clueless about the Business side of e-cigs ;)
Given that the base of either PG or VG and nicotine is well established, and I unfortunately failed to do a PhD in flavour chemistry, that would hardly be appropriate. Given that you are not a retailer of ecigs, I would question how valid your knowledge of this area is, unless you work for a pharmaceutical company of course.
Get yourself an MBA (like me) and your words might hold some credibility dude :cool:
If I intended to progress in large business, I would get myself a proper qualification, rather than a mish mash of economics, accountancy and questionable management training, aka master of bugger all. Chartered accountancy would seem like a good choice. Of course, it's much harder to gain than an MBA.
Describes you perfectly !! :D
Yes, I'm afraid my ability to troll and offend 90% of readers is far lacking of your own.
You forgot to mention how naive and unqualified your writing is too ;)
I really don't consider your opinion that regulating something that is not used medicinally, by you as well as others, as a medicine qualifies you to comment on my naivety, in fact exactly the opposite. Similarly, your overwhelming belief that the big pharmaceutical companies want to save you money and have nothing but your well being in their minds takes naivety to a level that requires a whole new word, I'd say stupidity fits.
Maybe you'd like to explain why using Food Grade is harmful because from my understanding it's actually a sign of quality and safety ...... or perhaps you'd like to explain why you feel the need to defend Totally Wicked despite them being the primary cause of this new legislation ?? :(
I don't consider food grade to be harmful at all, but given that there will not be any toxicity data on the inhalation of flavourings, I do consider that they may very well be an impediment to gaining manufacturing approval as an inhaled medicine. Actually, that understates the case - they WILL be an impediment to gaining approval as a medicine.
I bet you say that to all the Hot Chicks, you Babe Magnet you !! :D
And I'm sure they are equally thrilled by your people skills, and your use of Sign Writers Capitalisation.
As a Chemist, you should be arguing For testing - not Against it ....... or maybe the entire Medical Industry should stop all their clinical trials for everything, and instead just ask you for your opinion on what is or isn't safe :rolleyes:
I'm pro testing, and for that matter pro regulation, provided that the regulation is appropriate. Ecigs are not used as medicines, anymore than real cigarettes are, therefore regulating them as medicines is not appropriate. Any regulation of ecigs would necessarily not be nicotine based, since that would leave liquids that are nicotine free unregulated (beyond the current regulation that applies anyway).
The current MHRA proposal has nothing to do with safety, and everything about helping out their chums (and employers) in the pharmaceutical industry.
How is Intelli forcing anything on you ?? :confused:
The current proposals are badly thought out and rushed. By not opposing them, intellicig are increasing the chances of the proposal succeeding. That doesn't force anything on me as UK regulation is totally irrelevant to me, it does however have potentially serious long term effects.
That finger should be pointing at the Governmental ...... and of course your beloved "Mr E-NI" who foolishly gave them the excuse/ammunition to attack :mad:
Or I could point the finger of blame at a company thats actively promoting sales in pharmacies, and has been for some time. Or I could say that something like this was inevitable, and it's how people react to it that matters.
And as far as greed is concerned, looking at the prices from TW and the many small-time vendors in the UK - I'd say they are just as greedy, indeed far more so :rolleyes:
Tw's liquid prices are hugely inflated by the amount of packaging they use - in fact it's probably as expensive as the actual liquid.
But of course being the commercial genius that you are you already know this.
Prices are very varied, from downright extortionate, to very cheap, the internet makes comparison shopping very easy. Those who can't compete won't last (as you ought to know). It doesn't take regulation to stop that, commercial pressure will do just fine.
Your language skills are truly poor - you should have ended that sentence with Are instead of Aren't ...... getting things wrong seems to be your speciality in life !! :lol:
I'm sorry, but until you learn how to use primary school level basics like capital letters, please desist from criticising other peoples English skills. It is not just hypocritical, it is also, and more importantly, ineffective.
I see, so despite you singing the praises of UK vendors and insulting me for criticising their over-pricing - you also don't buy from them for the same reason !! :-x

Talk about Contradicting yourself and showing utter Hypocrisy ...... sorry, you are against using full words so let me shorten that by saying you are a Cont and a Hypo - happy now ?! :D
Like most consumers, I spend my money where I think it is spent to best advantage. Some suppliers I don't use because of price, some because I don't like their product. As a consumer it is useful to have choice, something that may well be in short supply in the future.
Oh and by the way dude, seeing as you feel it's so important ...... is the Juice you buy from the EU of Food Grade or Pharma Grade ?? :p
It's made from pharmaceutical grade ingredients, but it wasn't when I initially bought it, and from a personal level, given that I used to smoke, I'm not that concerned. It's not terribly important because they are unlikely to be seeking an MA under the MHRA proposal, which is where the distinction becomes important.
Anyway, as long as they don't restrict imports - this legislation does not affect e-cig Consumers in any significant way ...... it's only the e-cig Vendors who need to worry !! :oops:
Well, that's fine, for those of us currently vaping as an alternative to smoking. I don't imagine many people will take up long term self medication as an alternative to smoking however, and they are not going to know where to order it from overseas. Basically what you are saying is "I'm alright, screw the rest" You will have to excuse me if I don't applaud.
I'm just glad there is one company in the UK that is smart enough to possibly survive the cull :thumbs: ...... and I'm sure that TW will do a 180 and end up following Intelli's example .......................... eventually ;)
I'm sure anyone who makes their own liquid within the UK will be looking into gaining an MA, regardless of their opposition to the current MHRA proposal. I also don't think they have any real chance of success.
 

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Okay, I'm closing this thread as it is starting to degenerate into an all too familiar forum slanging match.
If you don't like it then read back through the posts to see why.
Perfectionist, you argue such a good case but spoil it with your arrogance and discourtesy. Try a little humility and integrity please.
John.
 
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