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you can ask here too, if the answer is not found here it will at least get your count up
Welcome to ECF! Just ask a few of your DIY questions here and people will be happy to help. Added benefit...you'll have your 5 posts. 
Welcome to the ECF community. You can ask your DIY questions here, and you'll get post your count up. You'll also receive answers to your questions. Thanks for posting.
Welcome and have you read the stickies in the DIY section? There is a ton of info there. If so and they did not help ask away.
Hey Jen. Just tell us all hi back one at a time, and you got your post!!!
And welcome to ECF.
And welcome to ECF.
Yea I read the info in the DIY forum, and I wasn't sure if people who know this stuff patrol the newb forum LOL. So, here's what I did: 0.8 mL base (65% PG/35% VG) @ 30 mg nic/mL + 0.2 mL flavor (all stuff from Vapure). By my calculations, this should = 24 mg strength which is what I normally vape. I allowed it to sit overnight and the flavor is fine but the TH is non-existant and its giving off very little vapor. I know PG tends to give less vapor, but the 80/20 mix I got from Gourmet Vapor gives off way more vapor than mine even with a lot more PG. I just added a few drops of anhydrous Glyercin and that incresed the vapor a little but I don't want to put in too much because it will dilute the nic strength and flavor. I'm wondering if this type of base is just bad and maybe I should go for a higher nic strength. Has anyone worked with Totally Wicked's 54 mg?
ok on the flavor you used does it list water or alcohol as an ingredient?
cause from what I am seeing you took a flavor you didn't care for or wanted to reduce the nic on. adding a water/alcohol based flavoring will dilute it to the point it will fail to produce noticeable vapor.
cause from what I am seeing you took a flavor you didn't care for or wanted to reduce the nic on. adding a water/alcohol based flavoring will dilute it to the point it will fail to produce noticeable vapor.
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It's pure flavor concentrate made for DIY eliquid, but it doesn't list the ingredients. It's also Vapure brand, which makes good pre-made ejuice, so I don't think the product is inherently bad. Neither the flavor nor the base liquid look any thicker than water, though. I've considered boiling it down to see what that does but I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not.
I actually like the flavor, the only problem is insufficient vapor, hence the added Glycerin in an attempt to thicken it up a bit. I actually didn't want to dilute the strength but it was the only thing I could think of to up the vapor.
I actually like the flavor, the only problem is insufficient vapor, hence the added Glycerin in an attempt to thicken it up a bit. I actually didn't want to dilute the strength but it was the only thing I could think of to up the vapor.
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missed the mark a little, she is making her own juice, wondering about lack of vapor production in her DIY juice, not diluting a premanufactured juice.
what flavor are you using?
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Are you using a 2 mL pipette pump to measure? When I started DIY, i was making 3 mL batches using a syringe and found it IMPOSSIBLE to measure precisely enough to hit the target amounts I was looking for, until I started using a pipette pump. Precision becomes more and more important as the quantity of liquid gets smaller.
Your calculations seem correct, and in my experience, the flavors mentioned shouldn't have much of an affect on vapor, although I have never used vapure flavorings. I have noticed that menthol kills vapor to an extent.
Your calculations seem correct, and in my experience, the flavors mentioned shouldn't have much of an affect on vapor, although I have never used vapure flavorings. I have noticed that menthol kills vapor to an extent.
Actually, I'm measuring by drops at the moment because I can't find a local supplier of chemistry equipment to save my life. I jerry-rigged a syringe to turn it into a graduated cylinder, then dripped 1mL of flavor in to confirm that 20 drops = 1 mL (because the drop factor will depend on the size of the dropper and I didn't trust that it would be what ppl on the forums said it is). Anyway, once I know that 20 gtt = 1 mL then each gtt = 0.05 mL. I just wanted to make a small batch to be sure it worked before making a huge nasty mess.
Sounds like you have the math right and have double checked your drop/ml count. I assume you bought the base premixed at 65/35 w/30mg/ml? You stated that the base looks like the consistancy of water. That sound like 100% PG. That would be light on vapor. So you may be correct on the base being the culprit. Is the TH there? Try and mix .8ml base with .2ml vg. Don't add any flavor and vape to test TH and vapor production. This will confirm or deny assumption of 100%pg base. If it is what you are looking for then flavor at your total listed above. Yes nic will be lower but it might work. Hope this helps Jen
I have found that for DIY the more variables you control the better. I use 100mg/ml nic in 100% pg. Buy PG and VG to cut at 80pg/20vg and make my base in 250ml increments. Sure 100mg/ml nic needs to be handled with care but using some simple precautions you can dial in any nic and pg/vg ratios you want.
I have found that for DIY the more variables you control the better. I use 100mg/ml nic in 100% pg. Buy PG and VG to cut at 80pg/20vg and make my base in 250ml increments. Sure 100mg/ml nic needs to be handled with care but using some simple precautions you can dial in any nic and pg/vg ratios you want.
I apologize if I had thrown you off with thinking you were using a premix juice. The reason is I went to their site and it maybe firefox but I find nothing at 30mg nor at DIY concentrates. That is the reason for my logic. I went to getvapure.com, maybe I misunderstood which vapure you meant.
Yea the base was premixed. I also have a bottle of pure 0 nic PG and the color of the 65/35 is not the same as the PG (and the base is slightly more viscous than the PG) so it does seem to be what it says it is. I suspect the problem has to do with the nic strength, because VG will always have some amount of water in it, and I'm thinking lower nic strength = more water. Of course I don't know how this stuff is made so I'm just guessing. I'll try to find a small graduated beaker so I can boil this stuff down while precisely controlling the final strength.
Where do you get the 100mg/mL??? Have you found it in VG base? I actually prefer pure VG and only bought this mix because it was a killer deal on a DIY kit. I'm a nurse so I'm sure I can handle it without killing myself LOL.
Where do you get the 100mg/mL??? Have you found it in VG base? I actually prefer pure VG and only bought this mix because it was a killer deal on a DIY kit. I'm a nurse so I'm sure I can handle it without killing myself LOL.
Oh yea, their site is weird. getvapure.com is for the hardware and some juices, but they have another site vapureeliquid.com for premixed liquids and DIY stuff. According to the guy at their retail store, it has to do with google's categories or some such, they can't advertise if the site sells hardware yadayadayada.
I am sure many will chime in but I buy most of my nic from Myfreedomsmokes.com. Drop down menu allows for choice of cutting liquid.
UnFlavored Smoke Juice (Nic. Juice) - MFS Inc.
They always deliver quickly and product is top notch.
xtreme vapor has good nic and so does arctic vapor. Figured you were in medical field when you counted drops and listed gtt. So with your background you will be all set handling and using 100mg/ml nic.
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