Introducing Futura - The Modular DNA 20 APV by NexgenVapor[ISSUE]

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Weren't the first potentially being shipped out by the end of last week? :nun: Ah well, I got an origen dripper today to play with until the futura gets here.

Unfortunately life doesn't always play out the way we hope. This is our first commercial venture in manufacturing so of course we made all the usual timing errors - logistics is a... female canine. Some of our 3rd party providers aren't quite as motivated as we are, which is incomprehensible to me, but there it is. We have two parts left to make this week while we wait for the tubes to get back from the painters (plural). I'm gonna shoot a shop video tomorrow so everyone can see the sausage making involved in producing these things.
 

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Unfortunately life doesn't always play out the way we hope. This is our first commercial venture in manufacturing so of course we made all the usual timing errors - logistics is a... female canine. Some of our 3rd party providers aren't quite as motivated as we are, which is incomprehensible to me, but there it is. We have two parts left to make this week while we wait for the tubes to get back from the painters (plural). I'm gonna shoot a shop video tomorrow so everyone can see the sausage making involved in producing these things.


Thanks for keeping us in the loop!

-=fred=-
 

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looks like we are starting to annoy him, LOL

On the contrary, no one's every annoyed me on this forum. Well, ok, I take that back - one person, but I'm assuming he's an anomaly. But seriously, we want a review asap too. Hopefully good for business and the frayed nerves of all concerned.
 

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On the contrary, no one's every annoyed me on this forum. Well, ok, I take that back - one person, but I'm assuming he's an anomaly. But seriously, we want a review asap too. Hopefully good for business and the frayed nerves of all concerned.

I think he meant Phil lol.

I think most of us understand that you are still spinning up production and have no problem waiting for you to get everything right. I'd rather get a flawless device in 2-3 weeks than one with a faulty part tomorrow.

That said, what are the chances you might start shipping next week? lol. I understand that in your situation it's usually best to not give specific dates, as then you get people like the guy yesterday "You said you might ship at the end of the week, ... WHERE MY DEVICE?!?!?!" as if they don't understand MIGHT. Just curious, I swear I'm not trying to hassle you, I'll wait however long I have to.
 

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I think he meant Phil lol.

I think most of us understand that you are still spinning up production and have no problem waiting for you to get everything right. I'd rather get a flawless device in 2-3 weeks than one with a faulty part tomorrow.

That said, what are the chances you might start shipping next week? lol. I understand that in your situation it's usually best to not give specific dates, as then you get people like the guy yesterday "You said you might ship at the end of the week, ... WHERE MY DEVICE?!?!?!" as if they don't understand MIGHT. Just curious, I swear I'm not trying to hassle you, I'll wait however long I have to.

I couldn't agree more. Thought everybody in this thread unanimously agreed with the preference of higher quality later over lower quality now. I know have said so on this thread as well.

But for the record I actually said:
"Weren't the first potentially being shipped out by the end of last week? :nun: "
-I asked because it was based on info conveyed by Lefty himself earlier last week. I included the nun symbol to symbolize politely and peacefully praying for the good news everyone on this thread has been hoping for.
My apologizes to anyone else who misinterpreted the praying nun symbol to mean "WHERE's MY DEVICE?!?!?!?!" but I assure you that was not my intention.

(damn, maybe I should stop using emoticon/symbols)
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yea i meant pheel as dimitri calls him, just the body language in the video, like he's thinking enough already with the emails.

i would like mine too but if i can wait 6 weeks for a 5 dollar atty from fasttech i think i can hang in there for this one lol. as someone who works in a deadline oriented lab environment I know all about things not going like you plan or hope for and the frustration it causes customers to go through. so do what you got to do and do it right, i'd rather have a delay then a sloppy product any day.
 
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I'm not onboard the Futura just because I love how my current Nemesis looks flush and cohesive with my Kayfun Lite, and looks are a big part of how I pick and chose my devices. Not that the Futura looks bad in any way, I might end up getting one for home use.

With that out of the way, if I drop $200+ on a mod I would expect a flawless device in every witch way so I wouldn't mind waiting it out.
 

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No problem at all with a delay. As several others have said, it's far better to get it right the first time regardless if it takes a bit more time.

But, at the same time, I do hope that NexGen is not going to follow the example of Super-T with the ELA. Ordered one of those in May and it's still not here (hoping for delivery by late-Nov.)
 

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On the contrary, no one's every annoyed me on this forum. Well, ok, I take that back - one person, but I'm assuming he's an anomaly. But seriously, we want a review asap too. Hopefully good for business and the frayed nerves of all concerned.

Perhaps a more accurate ETA would relieve those of us concerned. I hate to be that guy but I have been lurking this thread since I placed my order and even contacted you during my order for a rough estimate of the device's completion. I was told 2-3 weeks, 3 weeks ago. I as well as everyone here seems to understand the difficulties in manufacturing and creating a new product of the utmost quality but I am simply asking for a more realistic ETA and not an arbitrary number that you cannot fulfill on. Also if your'e going to promise a video of your factory/production, deliver please as we have when you requested we push the Futura to the top of Phil's list. I continue to wait patiently but need some reassurance.
-Thank you.
 

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Perhaps a more accurate ETA would relieve those of us concerned. I hate to be that guy but I have been lurking this thread since I placed my order and even contacted you during my order for a rough estimate of the device's completion. I was told 2-3 weeks, 3 weeks ago. I as well as everyone here seems to understand the difficulties in manufacturing and creating a new product of the utmost quality but I am simply asking for a more realistic ETA and not an arbitrary number that you cannot fulfill on. Also if your'e going to promise a video of your factory/production, deliver please as we have when you requested we push the Futura to the top of Phil's list. I continue to wait patiently but need some reassurance.
-Thank you.

I understand your (and everyone else's) frustration, and believe me, we're just as concerned about time frames. The problem is, and I'm sure it's not unique to us, that we rely on others to provide accurate delivery estimates for parts and supplies. Unfortunately, these aren't always reliable (another lesson learned). Since every component is crucial for completion, we have to wait for each to be done before we can begin assembly. At this point we don't have the luxury to search out other sources, so we're stuck with what and whom we've got. Another factor is the "made in USA" mantra. We could have cheated and used some foreign parts to speed things up, but we refused to go this route. It's either made here or it's not. I'm sure there are some Asian components on the DNA 20 board since certain electronics aren't even produced in America, but all the ancillary parts are made right here, down to washers, springs, wire, you name it.

I thought I was giving everyone involved more than adequate time to complete their assignments (by doubling the estimates) but apparently not. Additionally, some of our material choices have affected construction time: surgical stainless, for example, takes quite a bit longer to cut than the standard stuff. In any case, I'm not trying to make excuses (well, maybe a little) but rather explain what and why this is happening. One other thing: we're making enough parts so that once they're done we won't be running out every couple of weeks and starting this process all over. We'd like to actually have some stock so that "sold out" isn't the usual availability status.

Ok, that certainly made a short story long. Video today.
 
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