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Are you just using a straight piece of wire? Winding a coil might give better results, and you do need significant air flow across it to keep it from melting.

How do you wick a straight wire to get the VG onto it?? Without liquid (and air flow) you'll not have much success.

Can't give any recommendations for voltage without knowing the resistance.
 

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The standard voltage is generally between 4v and 3v. With batteries you generally see a ~Xv because it’s nominal voltage. (More or less the average). batteries are a bit like balloons. 5v is within spec. Which is handy as that is what usb puts out. Up to 9v can be done ( effectively a 2 battery mech mod with fresh batteries) but steps need to be taken to reduce the heat. Generally a shorter or thicker wire to reduce resistance. You’re effectively building an RDA that uses pure VG (which is what stage smoke machines use). Numbers can be found in mech mod descriptions.
Some sort of wicking will generally be needed to get the VG to the wire. Cotton is traditional with RDAs as it acts as a fuse. If it gets too hot the cotton burns and it stops bringing VG to the heating element. More heat resistant substances can be used though (glass fiber is common) which never burns allowing the coil to potentially get VERY hot. The upper limit is then the melting point of the metal the coil is made out of rather than the 451f of cellulose. You can use no wick at all and run the wire through the liquid container itself. The liquid then acts as a coolant and you get bubbles, which may be wanted. Doing that requires resistance/no resistance wire though (as you don’t want the resistance wire to touch and melt the container) which is a pain to make. You need to weld the two wires together end to end. This can be done using a home made spot welder that uses a capacitor as the power source. Mostly it’s just an easy way to get a switch, a power source, and a capacitor the right size from the flash mechanism. There are also links to calculator apps for Resistance ohm rating of given thicknesses and types of wire.
 
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I coiled it around 5-6 times, im also pumping air into the chamber with a dc air pump. Resistance is 0.79 ohms / feet

Does the air blow ON the coil? "Into the chamber" may or may not provide any cooling if not directly on the coil.

And, again, wicking. How are you getting the VG onto the coil? Sufficient flow of that? If the wick/coil dries out, poof.
 

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Does the air blow ON the coil? "Into the chamber" may or may not provide any cooling if not directly on the coil.

And, again, wicking. How are you getting the VG onto the coil? Sufficient flow of that? If the wick/coil dries out, poof.
Cooling for the coil is generally mostly provided by the evaporating liquid itself. Like a boiling pot. The food doesn't burn till the liquid dries up. Then you can actually melt the bottom out. As long as there is liquid it cant burn. If there is char on your cotton you vaped through a short dry hit that wasn't enough to burn all the cotton.
 
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Note to other readers: costronica is apparently a cosplay youtuber that sells a “micro smoke machine” —sound familiar? There are apparently videos about of it but I can’t find one that I can link here. They're all facebook or something similar. I personally consider facebook to be malware and don't deal with it.
 
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Note to other readers: costronica is apparently a cosplay youtuber that sells a “micro smoke machine” —sound familiar? There are apparently videos about of it but I can’t find one that I can link here. They're all facebook or something similar. I personally consider facebook to be malware and don't deal with it.
I don't feel comfortable placing any input on this discussion
 

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