First Rba and not impressed!

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DizGrizz

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As a rule...
Higher gauge (thinner) wire will "hot spot" more easily because it has more resistance per inch.
The number of wraps is completely determined by the resistance of the wire and the desired resistance of the completed coil ( and space limitations).
More wraps will give more vapor (but not necessarily more flavor) because it vaporizers a larger surface area of the wick (more juice to vaporize).
Hot spots are the killer of any coil. If you have an area that gets hot dramatically faster than the rest...it's a hot spot and it will make the vape taste burnt. Tails of the coil are notorious for this; keep them as short as possible...like none at all, if you can.
Thicker juice (i.e. high VG content) will always wick less than thinner juice. In some cases, you may want to thin it with a LITTLE alcohol (we're talking drops). And, when wicking is not optimal, hot spots cause more of a problem.

EDIT: Another prime hot spot maker is loose wraps. Essentially you want to make sure all of the resistance wire is touching something or it will turn into a hot spot and give you that burnt taste.
 

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Also you want your airhole in your top cap to be "directly inline" with your mesh wick .

Some if not most of the clones genesis atty's they do not line up and turn people away from useing them because of the harsh taste.

If it does not line up make it line up and you will be very surprised by the difference.
 

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Also you want your airhole in your top cap to be "directly inline" with your mesh wick .

Some if not most of the clones genesis atty's they do not line up and turn people away from useing them because of the harsh taste.

If it does not line up make it line up and you will be very surprised by the difference.
Yup just being off by 1/8" starts changeing flavor the bigger the offset the bigger the taste difference
 

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This video video really helped me to "get it", a re-hash of things that I had previously seen here on ECF but just never got the results that I was achieving with silica, until now.
I had just about given up on mesh but if you get it right it's excellent but it's got to be just right. IMO. Just keep trying as the goal is attainable.
FunkyVapes - The Perfect Genesis Coil, Every Time! - - YouTube
 

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dont mean to sound like a di.. but a geni is not the best first choice for a rebuildable. try out a silica based rba first. once you get comfortable and learn the coil wraps resistance and all that try a geni, i have been using rbas for more than a year sept 2011, started vaping august 2011, and until now i have got genis down. not an easy task unless you shut life off and do this constantly lol
 

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I'm somewhat in the same boat. I got an AGA-T and wrapped some simply beautiful silica wicks. The coils burnt well finally but I kept getting a nasty silica taste.

So today I tried my first mesh wick. Oxidized some #400 SS, wrapped it with Kanthal 34 (5 wraps, 7 including ends) and it clocked in at 6.5ohm! So I removed 3 coils and it's now at 3.4ohm. Vaping at 5V it is decent...the flavor is there but there's not much warmth, though the throat hit is about as strong as I've ever tasted. As a matter of fact, I feel like a first day vaper using it.

I can't quite enjoy it as much as my phiniac/boge combo...but maybe I'll get used to it.
 

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Oh god phiniac and bogue next to a geni is like saying you enjoy a Philly cheesesteak hot pocket over a real philli. Flavor comes in when you least expect it. Just keep giving it pufs here and there you will see

I know it sounds ridiculous. But my Boges seem refreshing, warm, and vapor filled while the geni with mesh just seems cold and harsh. Lots of vapor and decent taste but no satisfaction. I'm not sure why.
 

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3.4Ω @ 5V would have you vaping at ~7W. You might try upping the voltage to 5.4V (at a minimum). 5.4V will bring you up to ~8W. You could bump it up in .1V increments after that until you get to 6V (that would be ~10W).

I'm somewhat in the same boat. I got an AGA-T and wrapped some simply beautiful silica wicks. The coils burnt well finally but I kept getting a nasty silica taste.

So today I tried my first mesh wick. Oxidized some #400 SS, wrapped it with Kanthal 34 (5 wraps, 7 including ends) and it clocked in at 6.5ohm! So I removed 3 coils and it's now at 3.4ohm. Vaping at 5V it is decent...the flavor is there but there's not much warmth, though the throat hit is about as strong as I've ever tasted. As a matter of fact, I feel like a first day vaper using it.

I can't quite enjoy it as much as my phiniac/boge combo...but maybe I'll get used to it.
 
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