i just started vapin two days ago,it seems that it not satisfying me,i have the five cartridges that come with 901 regular flavor in high med and low,i get a little throat burn but no buzz,also ordered menthol high and the same happens,i smoke a menthol light real cig now and after dragging on the e cig for hours on end still need a real fix,what gives is it me or did i get some cheap juice that isnt strong,also what is the best juice,i just dont get the nicotine fix i need,keep this in mind also i dont smoke but a half of a pack real cig as it is and can smoke the e cig all day with nothimg but flavor,im upset cause i really want this to be better for me,hhhhheeeelllllpppp!!!!!
Is it just me?Help
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Yes, it's just you. 
JUST KIDDING!
In my experience, e-smoking doesn't really give me a buzz, not like smoking an analog sometimes did. I think it's primarily because the buzz from an analog isn't really all about the nicotine (or probably even mostly)--it's probably the carbon dioxide/monoxide and a combination of the 4,000 chemicals.
Now, with e-smoking, you get your best "hit"--that feeling of at the back of your throat or, better yet, that lung-punch--with a fresh battery, a fresh cartridge, and a good atomizer.
For me, once I get about 1/3 of the way down a cartridge, the vapor and hit tend to dissipate. Consequently, I top off my cartridge quite a bit, dripping 2-3 drops on the stuffing of the cartridge. I find that keeping the top of the stuffing moist (but not having liquid pooling on the top) provides enough liquid for good vapor and a good hit.
Do you have any e-liquid to top off with?
JUST KIDDING!
In my experience, e-smoking doesn't really give me a buzz, not like smoking an analog sometimes did. I think it's primarily because the buzz from an analog isn't really all about the nicotine (or probably even mostly)--it's probably the carbon dioxide/monoxide and a combination of the 4,000 chemicals.
Now, with e-smoking, you get your best "hit"--that feeling of at the back of your throat or, better yet, that lung-punch--with a fresh battery, a fresh cartridge, and a good atomizer.
For me, once I get about 1/3 of the way down a cartridge, the vapor and hit tend to dissipate. Consequently, I top off my cartridge quite a bit, dripping 2-3 drops on the stuffing of the cartridge. I find that keeping the top of the stuffing moist (but not having liquid pooling on the top) provides enough liquid for good vapor and a good hit.
Do you have any e-liquid to top off with?
i found one thing that helps to get a quick nicotine buzz if needed. If you take a really long drag(till the light at the end starts blinking) then hold it in for several seconds. I don't do this all the time, but it definitly gives me a quick buzz. I too have the same problem not getting the same effect as regular cigs,even when I smoke 36mg all day. I've done this method with 24mg and 36mg, both seem to work. You also got to understand vaping is very much different from smoking. Different taste,much more smoke in regular cigs, and other chemicals that maybe enhancing the buzz too. And if you don't know already, 1 drag on a e-cig is equal in nicotine to about 1/2 a drag on a analog cig. So you have to vape twice as long to get the same nicotine. By the way what strength(mg) are you using. Anything less than 16 for me is like smoking air.
I thought I would be the first response, cos I live in Tarheel Country and lived in Chapel Hill NC for 26 yrs
First, do whatever, you can, not to give up.
It is possible you are not getting the right amount of nic to satisfy your needs They say, ( again, I never know, who they is ) it takes a few days for the nic to leave your blood stream, but it will take forever to get over the emotional connection.
At first, I was close to drinking the juice, right from the bottle, I would put so much juice in my cart, that it was coming thru like water, to a point where I would hiccup for hours,
Just continue with what you have, look for additional carts or juice that may help, I aint no doctor, so my suggestion would be to fight thru it, use your ecig as a tool to hold and hold for dear life All I know is I did not have any of the right tools to start, I did whatever I needed to until I started feeling like I had a better control and started finding the right items that worked, It did not happen over night for me, but it has been 6 months and no cigs
Well, I would help you but not since the Tarhills beat OU in the NCAA tournament.
Ok, we Okies are really nice people so I suggest you strengthen the nicotine level. You still need to understand that vaping is different from smoking a true analog and takes time to adjust. Keep trying.
PS - OU center Blake Griffin is much better then Hansbrough. OU lost the game but Blake won the battle under the basket.
Good luck
Ok, we Okies are really nice people so I suggest you strengthen the nicotine level. You still need to understand that vaping is different from smoking a true analog and takes time to adjust. Keep trying.
PS - OU center Blake Griffin is much better then Hansbrough. OU lost the game but Blake won the battle under the basket.
Good luck
Ummmmm . . . that isn't right.
The following was posted by a long-term member whose knowledge base is almost frightening. Really. (Miss you, Kate.)
Actually, one of the problems that new e-smokers often face is taking in too much nicotine. First, we tend to vape at least as much as we smoke, and for some of us, we vape a lot more in the beginning than we smoked. Second, new vapers tend to use too high of a nicotine concentration. Using too high a nicotine concentration will often cause new e-smokers to actually INCREASE their nicotine intake over their former tobacco only habit.
I was a former 2+ pack a day smoker of 30 years. I quite naturally assumed I needed a high nicotine concentration. Massive, massive headaches after a few days.
In my opinion, the best practice is to start off with low or perhaps medium, then occasionally spike your cartridge with a couple of drops of high nicotine concentration if the cravings start getting bad.
Please do read the link on nicotine safety. It's an eye-opener. 8-o
Edited to Add: Go Heels! (I left my heart in North Carolina.
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Oklahoma and Bulldog . . . y'all are TERRIBLE.
My husband and I both went to Duke, so we're die-hard Duke fans.
It took my years and years, but I finally got to the point where I was able to say, "Go Heels" without choking on it. I think it was about the time that we started thinking about college for our daughters and looked at in-state tuition for UNC versus Duke.
My husband and I both went to Duke, so we're die-hard Duke fans.
It took my years and years, but I finally got to the point where I was able to say, "Go Heels" without choking on it. I think it was about the time that we started thinking about college for our daughters and looked at in-state tuition for UNC versus Duke.
If you want to quit it will happen; if not, do not expect the e-cig to be the magic bullet. I find that e-cigs (a.k.a. personal vaporizers) only provided about 40% of the analog smoking experience, at best. That said, I have been analog free for over a month after burning through 1 to 1.5 packs of 'North Carolina's State Vegetable' for well over 30 years.
Try a 36mg/ml e-juice for a period of time. It is the highest concentration of nicotine in commercially available e-juice I know of available on the open market. If that does not help you, there may be other factors beyond nicotine and the physical aspects of smoking that has you addicted.
Try a 36mg/ml e-juice for a period of time. It is the highest concentration of nicotine in commercially available e-juice I know of available on the open market. If that does not help you, there may be other factors beyond nicotine and the physical aspects of smoking that has you addicted.
thanks for the help,i have to give props to blake griffin,thats the okies problem they depend on him so much that if he dont have a 50 point game against a team like the tarheels, and there outside shooting, its will be hard for them to succeed
This forum has taught me so much so far,thanks for everone who replied even the tarheels haters lol haha,i really enjoy smoking,it relaxes me and relieves stress,i quit cold turkey about three years ago,and picked it back up last august,i cant say i want to quit but really want a healthier alternative for me and my family,just a little back ground,im 27wm,married with a 4 yr old and 6month old,we live here in burlington nc,i think in need to be able to live comfortably and smoking aound the kids is a no no,so im really want this to be a good thing,i guess i was expecting it to be just like a cig,now that i know what to expect i can adjust to it,once again thanks
I have another idea....
I'm sure some have stumbled upon this.
I also smoked for 30+ years at over a pack a day.
Found out about these and thought "this is my saviour", went well for a few weeks.
Maybe 1 or 2 real cigarettes a day. Then week 3 none at all, but alot of times still thought "I want a cigarette" (even went out and bought a new pack intending on smoking one as soon as I got home from the store).
Stopped for a minute and thought...what can I do different to stop this insane "need" for a cigarette. My idea.....change flavors (I used coffee flavor), but I think it might trick the mind long enough to get you through the urge.
I'm sure some have stumbled upon this.
I also smoked for 30+ years at over a pack a day.
Found out about these and thought "this is my saviour", went well for a few weeks.
Maybe 1 or 2 real cigarettes a day. Then week 3 none at all, but alot of times still thought "I want a cigarette" (even went out and bought a new pack intending on smoking one as soon as I got home from the store).
Stopped for a minute and thought...what can I do different to stop this insane "need" for a cigarette. My idea.....change flavors (I used coffee flavor), but I think it might trick the mind long enough to get you through the urge.
There are also many, many people, who have used the PV to cut down on analogs, rather than quitting cold turkey. Don't tar and feather yourself if you slip. As you get more used to your PV, you will find that you want a "real" cigarette less.
Also, have you tried dripping directly onto the atomizer? That will give you a good vape and throat hit, 2 drops are about the same as 1 cig.
Keep trying - and don't give up!
Also, have you tried dripping directly onto the atomizer? That will give you a good vape and throat hit, 2 drops are about the same as 1 cig.
Keep trying - and don't give up!
Ok JustJulie, before you go trying to say my information isn't worth S*** you should do some more research yourself. Another well-known "Senoir" member known as Tropical Bob states otherwise. he states
"Go to Health New Zealand and you'll find lab tests on Ruyan cartridges. There is nowhere near the nicotine content you quote. At the most, each puff is less than half a puff from a tobacco cigarette. Another test made it 1/5th the nicotine. No, you are not getting more nicotine per puff. Which might explain why we non-stop e-puff. And why I never feel I get enough nicotine from e-smoking, despite non-stop use of 24mg liquid."
Here is the link if you don't believe me
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/2211-how-much-nicotine.html
AND......I believe the first time I read of a e-cig puff being equal to 1/2 reg. cig puff was stated by your's truely "Kate".
So I would apreciate if you would keep those comments to youself, especially you not even knowing how much knowlege I have. Just because I just joined this forum a month ago, doesn't mean I haven't been e-smoking for long before that.
Now Tarheels, the point that your saying is that it's not as strong as a regular cig. Well that backs up all of the other "long term" members stated.
how do you like them apples?
"Go to Health New Zealand and you'll find lab tests on Ruyan cartridges. There is nowhere near the nicotine content you quote. At the most, each puff is less than half a puff from a tobacco cigarette. Another test made it 1/5th the nicotine. No, you are not getting more nicotine per puff. Which might explain why we non-stop e-puff. And why I never feel I get enough nicotine from e-smoking, despite non-stop use of 24mg liquid."
Here is the link if you don't believe me
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/2211-how-much-nicotine.html
AND......I believe the first time I read of a e-cig puff being equal to 1/2 reg. cig puff was stated by your's truely "Kate".
So I would apreciate if you would keep those comments to youself, especially you not even knowing how much knowlege I have. Just because I just joined this forum a month ago, doesn't mean I haven't been e-smoking for long before that.
Now Tarheels, the point that your saying is that it's not as strong as a regular cig. Well that backs up all of the other "long term" members stated.
how do you like them apples?
Nazdrowie009--I can assure you that it was not my intent to attack you or make you look foolish.
If you feel the need to correct my facts, I would appreciate your doing so without making a personal attack.
That was the statement that I took exception to. To simply make the bald assertion, without specifying any particular nicotine concentration, that one drag on an e-cig gives you the same amount as 1/2 the drag on an analog, is just . . . well . . . wrong.
If you feel the need to correct my facts, I would appreciate your doing so without making a personal attack.
That was the statement that I took exception to. To simply make the bald assertion, without specifying any particular nicotine concentration, that one drag on an e-cig gives you the same amount as 1/2 the drag on an analog, is just . . . well . . . wrong.
Well, If you wanna get detailed, then, my statement, even without listing the strength was closer then what you wrote. I agree I should have written 36mg. I am sorry that I attacked you, it's just that your statement "Ummmmmmmm. That isn't right" offended me and made me want to vent. Not to mention the horrible day I'm already having. I'll try next time to not take things so personal.
No hard feelings
No hard feelings
No hard feelings, Naz. I probably came across and flippant in my post, and that certainly wasn't my intent.
But I'm still going to have to disagree with you. I think the statement of 1 e-puff to 1/2 analog puff applies to vaping a 16 mg nicotine solution, not 36 mg, and it assumes the tobacco cigarette has 1.5 mg of nicotine (and, as we know, brands differ substantially on the nicotine content). But I guess we're getting kind of technical here.
And I still stand by my recommendation that newcomers to e-smoking not use high nic as the standard vape if they're vaping a lot.
Many of those new to e-smoking vape a lot more than they smoked--we're trying to find something that is missing, something that we're not getting from our vape. A lot of times what is "missing" isn't necessarily the nicotine. Rather, it's that indefinable feeling we get from smoking, at least a good portion of which is from all the crap in an analog cigarette that's NOT in an e-cig.
And, of course, the type of e-cig one uses can play into things. An e-cig with a whimpy vapor is simply not going to be as satisfying as one with strong vapor production, and the nicotine concentration isn't going to help that situation too much.
Then again, it may well be that what the original poster needs is more nicotine.
But I'm still going to have to disagree with you. I think the statement of 1 e-puff to 1/2 analog puff applies to vaping a 16 mg nicotine solution, not 36 mg, and it assumes the tobacco cigarette has 1.5 mg of nicotine (and, as we know, brands differ substantially on the nicotine content). But I guess we're getting kind of technical here.
And I still stand by my recommendation that newcomers to e-smoking not use high nic as the standard vape if they're vaping a lot.
Many of those new to e-smoking vape a lot more than they smoked--we're trying to find something that is missing, something that we're not getting from our vape. A lot of times what is "missing" isn't necessarily the nicotine. Rather, it's that indefinable feeling we get from smoking, at least a good portion of which is from all the crap in an analog cigarette that's NOT in an e-cig.
And, of course, the type of e-cig one uses can play into things. An e-cig with a whimpy vapor is simply not going to be as satisfying as one with strong vapor production, and the nicotine concentration isn't going to help that situation too much.
Then again, it may well be that what the original poster needs is more nicotine.
yes, and I do mainly agree with you. I do believe what we are missing is something we will never be able to reach and thats probably best for us because it has a relation to all of the other chemicals in a analog cigarette. I do however have to speak from my own experiance and who knows, maybe my nicotine tolerance is sky high. 16mg really doesn't do much for me and 36mg still seems to not be strong enough. The strange thing is, I only smoked like half a pack a day. It all probably comes down to the fact that all of our bodies are different and because of this, we all get a different effect from e-smoking. 36mg has been deemed to be the highest mg that is safe to use. But when the fda gets through their testing, we might have some totally new facts. I have a pretty large selection of juices and when my friends want to try it, I do try to start them off around 16mg, but they always seem to go to the 36 pretty quickly. I guess were all just looking for that instant gratification.
My wife and I got our 1st ecigs this afternoon, we bought 2 dse901 starter kits from esmokey treats. We also bought 2 usb passthru chargers and were able to start vaping as soon as we put them together, it was great I am using 11mg menthol from esmokey and it tastes real good and goes down smooth with a nice throat hit We have been vaping no for 5 hours and I have only smoked 2 analogs(I smoke 3 packs of analogs a day and have for too many years so I believe this is going to work for me. Thank you to all who have posted answers to questions and put together some really great vids, without those I probably would have given up if things hadn't gone so smoothly cause we had watched the vids and read alot of posts before spending our cash
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