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Is it safe?

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  1. itsson

    itsson New Member

    Oct 1, 2019
    I was wondering wether it is safe or not to be vaping with a 0.13 ohms alien coil using the Tesla Invader 3 first and second step powered by 2 Vape cell 16850 3000 mah 3.7V.
     
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    somdcomputerguy vaper dedicato Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  3. itsson

    itsson New Member

    Oct 1, 2019
    Happy to finally found a reliable consulting community!
     
  4. somdcomputerguy

    somdcomputerguy vaper dedicato Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Oh you certainly have!
     
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  5. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Hi and welcome,
    The Invader will handle resistances as low as .10 Ω. .13Ω is greater than .10Ω.
    IMO, If you are using Vapcell INR3000s, from a reliable source, they are rated at about 20amps each. You have a ceiling of about 120W max for the pair in the Invader.

    HTH
    I
     
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  6. itsson

    itsson New Member

    Oct 1, 2019
    Thank you for the information!
     
  7. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    @itsson – The Tesla Invader III is a variable voltage device so knowledge of Ohms Law is needed to understand the current draw on the batteries. At its lowest setting of 3.6 volts, using a 0.13 ohm coil you are operating at 100 watts which would have an estimate current draw of 18 amps per cell. At its medium setting of 5.1 volts, that same coil would generate 200 watts and would draw 35 amps per cell. There is NO 18650 battery with a 35 amp CDR (Continuous Discharge Rating) rating.

    Vapecell is a re-wrap battery. Personally, I would choose the Samsung 20S (30amp CDR) battery and never operate above 4.5 volts with that resistance.
     
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  8. itsson

    itsson New Member

    Oct 1, 2019
    I was thinking about changing the batteries and this really cleared it up.
     
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  9. Dougiestyle

    Dougiestyle Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 5, 2011
    Knoxville, TN USA
    Nothing is safe.
     
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  10. P3ch3

    P3ch3 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 31, 2019
    aye, totally safe, but is gonna be better with better cells, the vape cells you mention are re-wraped ones, i rather LG hg2's, be sure to be cover, use a battery charger instead the mod for charging, that's were safety is, on batteries and a decent charger!

    Regards,
     
  11. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    Agree that authentic, non re-wrapped cells should be used. But safety, or better put, mitigating risk is operating the device within the capabilities of the of the batteries being used and not just because you are using an authentic cell. This device is capable of drawing 50+ amps per cell – there is not a single 18650 on the market that is rated above 30 amps. Understand and respect the device, understand and respect your batteries – vape safe!
     
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  12. MJCSD

    MJCSD Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    May 7, 2014
    usa
    Hello and welcome to ecf
     
  13. Tabac man

    Tabac man Super Member

    May 24, 2019
    London
    Is it safe?

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  14. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hundertwasser
    Great advise already given.
    When I see 'is is it safe' I think 'hold my beer'.
    Also OP it's 18650 not 16850
     
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  15. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Welcome and glad you joined.
     
  16. Hughvape

    Hughvape Moved On

    Oct 3, 2019
    Welcome to the best forum on the planet!!
     
  17. AvaOrchid

    AvaOrchid Ultra Member

    Sep 19, 2019
    USA
    On this topic but sort of co-opting it from the original poster (I apologize if I offend) is there like a Ohm's law for idiots (me) video that anyone knows of like I mean really basic description of Ohm's law for people that can barely divide....(again me)
     
  18. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    If you YouTube Ohms Law there are many videos. You will have view and determine what fits within your comfort range – I understand you are looking for the most simplistic, but what is simple to one person maybe complex and convoluted to another.

    There are also many web pages covering Ohms Law that do offer the mathematical equations. Again, find something that you understand and use it as a reference.

    To familiarize yourself, take different resistance examples and perform the calculations on a note pad- reference the internet if needed.

    I understand ohms law – needed it for my line of work. But I can’t count above 10 unless I take my shoes off, and even then I am limited to 20…..21 if I drop my drawers
     
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  19. Georgia Boy

    Georgia Boy Super Member

    Jun 28, 2019
    Atlanta Georgia
    Welcome Aboard
    Great advice above I will only use Molicell and Samsung Batterys thats a personal choice
     
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