That book is what made me go low carb, it was like an eye opener. I don't follow a strict no wheat or carb diet, but just doing little things like only eating one half of the bun on a hamburger made an unbelievable difference in my weight. I don't count calories or avoid fats, I just heavily limit carbs, and I feel and look much better for it. But the thing about weight loss and dieting is that we are all so different that what works for one may be useless to another. I guess its all about trial and error.
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That book is what made me go low carb, it was like an eye opener. I don't follow a strict no wheat or carb diet, but just doing little things like only eating one half of the bun on a hamburger made an unbelievable difference in my weight. I don't count calories or avoid fats, I just heavily limit carbs, and I feel and look much better for it. But the thing about weight loss and dieting is that we are all so different that what works for one may be useless to another. I guess its all about trial and error.
I highly doubt the weight gain is from vaping. If vaping did lead to weight gain we would be hearing from more people that they are gaining weight instead of losing weight. It is possible that people who gain weight don't post about it.
It is far more likely that you are either not counting your calories correctly or that you are actually consuming too few calories. I guess if you are 100% sure that you are counting your calories correctly; you should see a doctor and a nutritionist.
Everyone here is trying to help you; that is why you were asked for your age, weight and gender. Those three variables are the starting points for determining caloric needs. If you fail to provide those to us; we have no idea if your 1500-1600 calorie range is too low, too high or perfect.
I doubt that you will find your answer here, but good luck!
It is far more likely that you are either not counting your calories correctly or that you are actually consuming too few calories. I guess if you are 100% sure that you are counting your calories correctly; you should see a doctor and a nutritionist.
Everyone here is trying to help you; that is why you were asked for your age, weight and gender. Those three variables are the starting points for determining caloric needs. If you fail to provide those to us; we have no idea if your 1500-1600 calorie range is too low, too high or perfect.
I doubt that you will find your answer here, but good luck!
I do not eat gluten at all...celiac. even though I am off of all wheat products, I did read Wheat Belly anyway....great information! This morning for breakfast I had 2 oz prosciutto and 1 ounce gruyere. One cup coffee with a splash of organic half n half. Will have nothing but ice water until lunch.
I've had thyroid disease for 13 years now, and get horrible side effects from the standard meds, so I normally just ride along with it.
The first time I quit smoking via vaping, in spite of still getting nicotine, I wound up in the hospital due to my thyroid going crazy, and I failed at vaping and went back to tobacco.
This time I'm using some WTA products, and this time it's working.
Have you had your thyroid levels run recently? Nicotine and tobacco products do have a real effect on them, or maybe you've recently developed a thyroid problem...thyroid testing is often suggested for sudden unexplained weight gain.
It does take extra effort to control weight for me, I HAVE to keep moving over and above work (strength training works best) and my age is now adding to the mix, making it a bit harder. Sigh. Best of luck to you!!!
The first time I quit smoking via vaping, in spite of still getting nicotine, I wound up in the hospital due to my thyroid going crazy, and I failed at vaping and went back to tobacco.
This time I'm using some WTA products, and this time it's working.
Have you had your thyroid levels run recently? Nicotine and tobacco products do have a real effect on them, or maybe you've recently developed a thyroid problem...thyroid testing is often suggested for sudden unexplained weight gain.
It does take extra effort to control weight for me, I HAVE to keep moving over and above work (strength training works best) and my age is now adding to the mix, making it a bit harder. Sigh. Best of luck to you!!!
...and to add, I once read that a lot of folks with my condition find it easier to loose if they avoid the grain foods, so I also largely avoid them, although I was never one to eat them too much anyway. It does make a difference. Best dieting advise I ever read:
Eat only when hungry.
Not too much.
Mostly plants.
Eat only when hungry.
Not too much.
Mostly plants.
Amazing... a a big guy myself... its always those that have NO issues losing the weight that ASSUME its because we are not being honest... being fat isnt ALWAYS a choice or from doing something wrong, so yes it could be medical as you started.. I am sure geeker was looking for some support and an ear the listen... no accusing him of not doing it right...
There could be in fact something that vape blocks on a metabolic level, to say it doesn't is just as ignorant to say it doesn't... We just don't know yet!! only time and people sharing these findings will prove once and for all, but if no one speaks up, we wont know!!
@ sueandcootie: what WTA products are you using? This is the kind of info I was hoping to find from posting this thread.
My health has been assessed, the recommended calorie intakes have already been researched. That is why I do not feel the need to be uber specific here. My questions about calories in and out and bmr/activity levels have been asked and answered elsewhere.
I reserved, until all other avenues were explored, bringing this to ecf.
My health has been assessed, the recommended calorie intakes have already been researched. That is why I do not feel the need to be uber specific here. My questions about calories in and out and bmr/activity levels have been asked and answered elsewhere.
I reserved, until all other avenues were explored, bringing this to ecf.
I have NO issues losing weight???? What made you assume that? It's taken me a year to lose 60 lbs. Up until then, I was over weight my whole life, starting from my senior year in high school. I was asking legit questions to try and help. Sensitive people around here.
Try no carbs after 5pm. I too have put on a few pounds but i am walking alot to get and keep it off.
Since I am a very analytical person; if this were me, I would quit vaping for awhile and track my calories in, my activity level and my weight to see what happens.
There really has to be something else
When I tried to quit before vaping I literally gained about 100 lbs
went back to smoking
now I am vaping at least 6 mls a day
counting cals between 1500-1900 a day (even have a cheat day once in a while)
and due to my work which has me at a desk most of the time
I only get to walk a few times a week
so not a crazy amount of exercise either
and I have lost 40lbs
in fact when I started counting cals I used to vape HHV waffles wile eating fruit salad in the morning
which really helped me get started
I know others who have similar experiences
So there has to be something else
either there is a mistake or something off in the counting
or maybe a medical issue IDK
but it is def not the juice
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Doing so without lowing nic levels first may lead back to smoking. I would try straight PG and then straight VG maybe it is just one of those that is causing the weight gain. I would experiment before quitting vaping totally as in cold turkey off nicotine.
geeker -- we simply do not have the data on how pg/vg effects the human body. Both have been used in food processing. Vegetable glycerin is a natural organic glycerol made from vegetable oil, normally coconut and/or palm oil. Polyethylene Glycol(400) is synthetic organic glycerol, is a low-molecular-weight grade of polyethylene glycol that comes from the ethylene line of chemicals. There just isn't any other information on how these compounds effect the human body when vaped though. If there is, I haven't seen it anywhere.
Agree, alto. Easier said than done. Will buy some other nic replacement...per my original post.
Short of finding a nic liquid that has water or alcohol as a substrate instead of these sweet compounds of pg and vg, I may have no choice but to cut back on vaping.
Short of finding a nic liquid that has water or alcohol as a substrate instead of these sweet compounds of pg and vg, I may have no choice but to cut back on vaping.
Initially I tried vaping some of the commercially available WTA juices, from the two companies which have the best reputation here, but I was beginning to feel off as I did in the past, so I tried something else which worked; although I wished to avoid this kind of thing all together I feel it's still better than smoking (and it seems a bit odd for a 49 year old woman!!!)...I use about 5 imported Swedish snus a week, just for a few minutes, as a source of WTA (in addition to vaping 6mg). I don't know if they are entirely free of gluten based products, and they say they can be bad for dental work...but my thyroid resulted in dental implants, so not an issue for me.
Agreed, in principle. Certainly I resent the insinuation, so popular these days, that your weight is license for everyone around to judge you morally. The elephant in the room, as always, is genetics. Of course, if we were to concede that genetics cause a whole host of discrepancies in the population, then the public-health lobby's moralist narrative would begin to look every bit as sinister and discriminatory as it really is. And we can't have that!
Possible, yes. Plausible? Eh, probably not. It's far more likely that the absence of tobacco has uncovered some sort of underlying condition, as Sue suggested a few posts back. Or the OP acquired a new condition coincidentally at around the time he stopped smoking.
Or perhaps, perhaps, the OP reacts in some strange way to some of the flavorings he's been vaping.
It is vanishingly unlikely that PG/VG/nicotine directly caused the OP's condition (for lack of a better term), though. We may not have definitive data encompassing large-scale and extremely long-term vaping, but we know the core components of e-juice to be safe, in principle. If there were even a suggestion that PG/VG/nicotine could cause the kind of pronounced condition described by the OP, we would have heard about it long ago.
FWIW, most of the symptoms about which people complain on this forum arise (either directly or indirectly) from quitting tobacco, not from taking up vaping. Unsafe as it is in the long term, cigarette smoke does have a number of short-term benefits; it can mask or attenuate all sorts of problems. And needless to say, people do tend to eat more after they quit smoking, but that doesn't appear to be the case for the OP.
May I ask where you source the Imported Swedish Snus from? I too felt "off" as well as experienced stomach issues from the WTA I purchased and used from Aroma, and even started a thread about it somewhere on here a few days ago! I've tried U.S snus, but from my understanding it doesn't work quite as well as the Swedish variety, and NO, not weird at all!
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Its the big guy in my jumping on the defensive is what it is... you know where that comes from if you lost over 60 pounds right? Wasnt trying to troll, was simply trying to make my point... it sounded like the blame was going back on the person gaining weight... which is how most skinny people look at over weight people, weak liars and "just doing it to themselves" thats all.
I didnt make to pick a fight!!! Sorry guys, but I do think to often the "tone" used on a message is missed...
I didnt make to pick a fight!!! Sorry guys, but I do think to often the "tone" used on a message is missed...
Hmm, being celiac, I'd think you'd head straight to underweight/malnourished before having difficulty dropping! That said, it really does sound like a metabolism issue. No one can say that PG/VG isn't interfering with it, but based on the number of calories you're eating, along with diligently weighing/counting, you should be losing.
I'm sure I missed several posts while reading this on my phone, so you may have answered already, but have you seen an endocrinologist? Maybe even a nutritionist?
I'm sure I missed several posts while reading this on my phone, so you may have answered already, but have you seen an endocrinologist? Maybe even a nutritionist?
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