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I think it was poor phrasing on his part. Probably why has an anesthesiologist and doesn't have a lot of contact with people that are awake.
Maybe his point (for whatever reason) is that we can't repair all the damage to our body. This is probably true about everything, not just smoking. We aren't idiots, we know this. Hello captain obvious!
If you've been overweight and lost lots of weight your skin may not look the same as it did prior to gaining weight. People accept that they won't look 18 again. If you were a sun bather when you were a kid but now don't and use sunscreen, there's probably some past sun damage. If you didn't take care of your teeth but now you do - same thing. Hell, break your leg. It's never going to be exactly the same as before you broke it. That's how the human body works.
Dwell on the past and stay stuck, or make changes and be proud of your accomplishments. I hope his anesthesiology skills are better than his passive-agressive people skills. Sounds like he's the one with issues.
Maybe his point (for whatever reason) is that we can't repair all the damage to our body. This is probably true about everything, not just smoking. We aren't idiots, we know this. Hello captain obvious!
If you've been overweight and lost lots of weight your skin may not look the same as it did prior to gaining weight. People accept that they won't look 18 again. If you were a sun bather when you were a kid but now don't and use sunscreen, there's probably some past sun damage. If you didn't take care of your teeth but now you do - same thing. Hell, break your leg. It's never going to be exactly the same as before you broke it. That's how the human body works.
Dwell on the past and stay stuck, or make changes and be proud of your accomplishments. I hope his anesthesiology skills are better than his passive-agressive people skills. Sounds like he's the one with issues.
Quiting certainly improves the odds of not worsening problems that may exist with your body .. although long term smoking may not be fully reversable .. the human body has an amazing ability to recover and heal ..
As a 40 year smoker, off the analogs now for a year thanks to my PV, I never thought I'd dramatically improve .. but I have improved to a degree and that's about all any of us can expect after many years addiction ..
be encouraged by the accomplishment, it's great and very satisfying in and of itself .. regardless of what was said ..
As a 40 year smoker, off the analogs now for a year thanks to my PV, I never thought I'd dramatically improve .. but I have improved to a degree and that's about all any of us can expect after many years addiction ..
be encouraged by the accomplishment, it's great and very satisfying in and of itself .. regardless of what was said ..
Not saying what the Anesthesiologist said was very tactful but there is some Logic to what he said.
I was a PAD smoker for about 25 Years. In perhaps Better than average Health for a person of my age bracket. When I switched to vaping, I talked with a M.D. about the risks of vaping. My M.D. is one of those No Non-sense guys who just looks you in the eyes and tells you what he thinks.
He asked me why I was going to quit Analogs after Smoking for so long? I told him that my main concerns were about Cancer and of course, the Expense of Smoking.
He said that at least I would get One out Two. I asked him what he meant by this? He told me that by smoking as long as I had I had Significantly Increased my chances of Developing Many types of Cancer. And that at my age, quitting Smoking wasn't going to Reduce my Risk of Developing Cancer much. Sort of the Dye is Cast and you can't turn back the Clock at your age type speech.
Great. Wasn't looking forward to Quitting Analogs in the First Place.
So I ask him then why should I quit analogs? To this he got Very Animated saying that Quitting Smoking at ANY Age provided the Biggest Possible Benefit to General Health. Quitting Smoking would help the Body Slow the Onset and Growth of a Cancer if it did developed and the ability for the Body to fend of Other types of Aliments. Quitting Smoking at ANY Age was the Best Thing Anyone Could Do Health Wise.
So what I took away was that quitting Smoking at my age might not Reduce my Statistical Chances of Developing Cancer but if I did quit, I might have a Better Chance of Slowing the Onset and or Increase my chances of Surviving Cancer. And that my General Health would be Improved.
That made sense.
So I Switched.
I was a PAD smoker for about 25 Years. In perhaps Better than average Health for a person of my age bracket. When I switched to vaping, I talked with a M.D. about the risks of vaping. My M.D. is one of those No Non-sense guys who just looks you in the eyes and tells you what he thinks.
He asked me why I was going to quit Analogs after Smoking for so long? I told him that my main concerns were about Cancer and of course, the Expense of Smoking.
He said that at least I would get One out Two. I asked him what he meant by this? He told me that by smoking as long as I had I had Significantly Increased my chances of Developing Many types of Cancer. And that at my age, quitting Smoking wasn't going to Reduce my Risk of Developing Cancer much. Sort of the Dye is Cast and you can't turn back the Clock at your age type speech.
Great. Wasn't looking forward to Quitting Analogs in the First Place.
So I ask him then why should I quit analogs? To this he got Very Animated saying that Quitting Smoking at ANY Age provided the Biggest Possible Benefit to General Health. Quitting Smoking would help the Body Slow the Onset and Growth of a Cancer if it did developed and the ability for the Body to fend of Other types of Aliments. Quitting Smoking at ANY Age was the Best Thing Anyone Could Do Health Wise.
So what I took away was that quitting Smoking at my age might not Reduce my Statistical Chances of Developing Cancer but if I did quit, I might have a Better Chance of Slowing the Onset and or Increase my chances of Surviving Cancer. And that my General Health would be Improved.
That made sense.
So I Switched.
Unreal!
For the sake of others, please report that jerk. There is no excuse at all for that sort of behavior- many people (myself included) are already a little fearful when we're about to be put under - regardless of what for; the last thing we need to hear is some ..... piling on additional fear and worry.
Totally not cool!!
For the sake of others, please report that jerk. There is no excuse at all for that sort of behavior- many people (myself included) are already a little fearful when we're about to be put under - regardless of what for; the last thing we need to hear is some ..... piling on additional fear and worry.
Totally not cool!!
Wanted to add these:
Mortality in relation to smoking: 50 years' observations... [BMJ. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI
Smoking, smoking cessation, and lung cancer in the UK si... [BMJ. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI
And this should prove to anyone that quitting smoking, regardless of age, is beneficial. The Cumulative Risk is % of death from lung cancer:
Mortality in relation to smoking: 50 years' observations... [BMJ. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI
Smoking, smoking cessation, and lung cancer in the UK si... [BMJ. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI
And this should prove to anyone that quitting smoking, regardless of age, is beneficial. The Cumulative Risk is % of death from lung cancer:
Let's see... my BP has dropped 11 points on both sides and my O2 absorption went from 92 to 98.
Don't let da azzhat get ya down!
Don't let da azzhat get ya down!
So he was an anesthesia doc huh? Did he also tell you that anesthesia side effects include depression? Did he tell you that the anesthesia can remain in your body for up to 6 months? Oy vey!
Just as an aside...something positive for you to ponder:
I smoked on & off about 25 years. I am 63 years young. I have vaped about 1 1/2 months now. Yesterday I swam 40 laps in a competition pool. Side benefit of vaping vs smoking. I just live one day at a time & each day to the fullest.
Forget that jerk doc & vape on...enjoy your life today & all the wonderfulness around you.
Peace.
Just as an aside...something positive for you to ponder:
I smoked on & off about 25 years. I am 63 years young. I have vaped about 1 1/2 months now. Yesterday I swam 40 laps in a competition pool. Side benefit of vaping vs smoking. I just live one day at a time & each day to the fullest.
Forget that jerk doc & vape on...enjoy your life today & all the wonderfulness around you.
Peace.
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Are you sure you weren't drugged up at the time and misunderstood what he was saying? If that is what he said and meant, then he needs to not have a medical license. The lungs will heal much like when you have a cut that turns into a scar and then eventually goes away but a really bad cut will leave a scar for life but it still heals itself a great deal. Also, the older you get, the scars begin to heal less effectively but they still heal just maybe not all the way. Aside from lung and cancer problems, after I quit I actually have WHITE teeth again and not yellow gross looking stained teeth. Quitting is always good. At the very least even if it doesn't do you any good, it does the people around you inhaling your second hand smoke good and is also good for the environment.
About three months into vaping, after 30+ years of 1.5 PAD, I feel better in every way except one - my lungs don't seem to have improved at all.
I can't quote heart rates or anything. I'm not the type to go to the doctor unless I am near death. But the positive changes of switching to vaping have been obvious. I'm holding on to hope that my lungs see some improvement, but am honest with myself about the potential of that being slim after smoking 300,000+ cigarettes.
The surprising thing was how quickly my lungs started to...weaken? I don't even know how to describe it. They were fine all my life, then within a few months I became regularly short of breath. I started feeling brief episodes of it in September, and by January decided to quit smoking. No improvement in that area yet. If anything, the decline is continuing. I hope I don't have COPD or something. I have a doc appointment next month.
I can't quote heart rates or anything. I'm not the type to go to the doctor unless I am near death. But the positive changes of switching to vaping have been obvious. I'm holding on to hope that my lungs see some improvement, but am honest with myself about the potential of that being slim after smoking 300,000+ cigarettes.
The surprising thing was how quickly my lungs started to...weaken? I don't even know how to describe it. They were fine all my life, then within a few months I became regularly short of breath. I started feeling brief episodes of it in September, and by January decided to quit smoking. No improvement in that area yet. If anything, the decline is continuing. I hope I don't have COPD or something. I have a doc appointment next month.
Thanks, all. I was pretty sure that quitting, no matter how long one had smoked, was beneficial to one's health. Not saying that this means my lungs are going to be pristine as if I had never smoked at all. But I was fairly certain that at least I would no longer be making things worse for myself. And yes, I was stone cold sober before he knocked me out and I am certain as to what he had said. (Someone above asked me if I was drugged up and perhaps had misunderstood what he had said).
For myself, I know that I have not had a case of bronchitis so far this year, and I have not had to use my rescue inhaler once, (I have had asthma since I was a child). I started vaping close to the first of the year which cut my cigarette consumption dramatically and immediately. Coughing until my head swam and I almost fainted was normal for me previously. It used to happen at least once/twice a week. I would cough and cough until I was whooping on the inhale and it felt as if the insides of my lungs were stuck together before the inhale. Rather like squishing a beach ball flat and how its innards sometimes stick together before you can get it re-inflated. That has not happened to me a single time since I began vaping. My allergies seem to be a bit better, too. I do know that my sense of smell and taste have improved tremendously.
ETA: the hospital just called me to ask how I was feeling and to ask how I felt about my experience with the hospital and staff. I told the nurse that I spoke with what the anesthesiologist had said with regard to my quitting smoking. She was apologetic - which was completely unnecessary as she was not the one who said it - but she also said that someone would be speaking with that doctor about how better to handle that particular question/response.
~Tiger
For myself, I know that I have not had a case of bronchitis so far this year, and I have not had to use my rescue inhaler once, (I have had asthma since I was a child). I started vaping close to the first of the year which cut my cigarette consumption dramatically and immediately. Coughing until my head swam and I almost fainted was normal for me previously. It used to happen at least once/twice a week. I would cough and cough until I was whooping on the inhale and it felt as if the insides of my lungs were stuck together before the inhale. Rather like squishing a beach ball flat and how its innards sometimes stick together before you can get it re-inflated. That has not happened to me a single time since I began vaping. My allergies seem to be a bit better, too. I do know that my sense of smell and taste have improved tremendously.
ETA: the hospital just called me to ask how I was feeling and to ask how I felt about my experience with the hospital and staff. I told the nurse that I spoke with what the anesthesiologist had said with regard to my quitting smoking. She was apologetic - which was completely unnecessary as she was not the one who said it - but she also said that someone would be speaking with that doctor about how better to handle that particular question/response.
~Tiger
Thanks for the update Tiger. Really glad someone is going to speak to that doctor. Also glad you have noticed an improvement in your health since starting vaping! 
poppycock.. my dad 80 and stopped after a 60+ year run 2 pack + a day.. (he vapes now) and the doctor says he is healthier.. can breathe better, even started to swim a bit.. his BP has improved...
im 50 and i am feeling so much better.. pooh on that guy..
im 50 and i am feeling so much better.. pooh on that guy..
I have an iPhone application called MLC (My Last Cigarette). It monitors the numbers of days and hours since I smoked my last cig, but also progress in terms of lung health, circulation, etc. I'm 40 days and some hours into it today,....and it shows some major increases in circulation, but not a lot in terms of lung health yet. Other stuff I have read though, indicates that the cilia in your lungs comes back after about a year.
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