Is the best way to get big vape

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try some 100% VG juice to see what is possible(personally I dislike high VG because it leaves a film giving me vapors tongue) bult it does blow clouds...the areotank also has dual coils and airflow control to allow for bigger clouds...glad to know you will be safe :)

A slighly raise in vg ratio greatly increases vapor ammount. I use mostly halo, its high PG, guess around 80% depending on brand, when i tried some liquas with 70/30 ratio there was a big ammount of vapor. What i really dont like VG is that it looks like TH lower on same proportion..
 

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Hey guys/gals. I have been looking around on fastech, as I'm sure you all know from my previous posts. I have really been debating purchasing from there due to people telling me that shipping takes forever, and the quality of the parts is pretty much always unknown.

With that said. Are there some sites located in the US that you all recommend that have a good selection of clone Rebuildable tank atomizer's, Rebuildable drip atomizer's and Clone Mech mods?

Thanks in advance
~Tyler
 

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I actually just stumbled upon Discountvapers, and I think I have found a setup that I will like.. Tell me what you guys think

Youde UDT-V8 Mechanical
IGO-W4 Rebuildable Stainless Steel Dripping Atomizer

I just wish they offered kanthal too, so I could get everything in one order.
Do you all think I will be happy with this setup?

Edit: Yea I know I said in previous posts that I was really only wanting to go the rebuildable tank route. But this Rebuildable dripper seems to be quite nice, and I like how it is set up with 3 posts and a deep well.
 

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Well Everyone, I did it. I made my first Mod/RDA Purchase!!!!

I wen't with the stainless magneto, and the Igo-w4 RDA

Now all that's left to do is purchase battery or two, Some organic cotton, Ohm meter, and some kanthal, and I will be ready to go!!

Ugh I can't wait lol.. Starting to feel like a little kid around Christmas time.

Like I said in a previous post, once I get everything in and do my first build, I will post results and pictures!! yeeee I'm so excited lol
 

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i know that feeling. i personally have the smoktech magneto. great telescoping mod and a magnetic switch. ran me about 30 bucks and as far as i know they dont make a clone of it. you could pick up a kamry kit for pretty cheap but if your looking for really cheap youll probably have to go the clone route from china and get the batts and charger seperate. just make sure that you get either 20amp or 30 amp batteries to be safe but theyre probably going to be about 10 bucks a piece. if your going the route of rebuilding a protank a mechs not really needed. all i use is my MVP v2 and i never have any issues with it. just make sure that you dont overlap your wraps and if needed make a jig. that one i showed cost me the better part of 5 bucks and about 5 mins of my time with a drill and sandpaper. do check out RIP Trippers vids on rebuilding. he does some crazy builds but just sitck with the standard micro coil and cotton wick, just remember to boil the ORGANIC cotton first 3 times for about 15 mins each time to make sure its clean.


You mention 20-30 amp batteries. Can you just explain to me how they are "safer"?
Please don't let this come off as me sounding like an ... lol.. I just don't know :)
 

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the higher amp battery is safer if you are drawing too many amps. Get the Ohm's law calculator app - enter in 4.2 volts since that is the maximum that your battery will ever have (typically they average 3.7). Enter in the resistance of your built coils. It will tell you how many amps you will pull. for example 4.2volts @ 0.5Ohms = 35watts and 8.4 amps. You would be fine with a battery rated for 10A continous drain. 20/30 is over kill. Make sure you get safe chemistry batteries such as IMR.
 

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You nailed it. I am not looking to build something that produces clouds to be using while out to eat or anything like that. I simply want to do it for the hobby and it seems fun to me. Not to mention the local shop is kind of setup like an internet cafe. People hangout watch movies,vape,talk vaping, and just simply hang out. While I'm out in public I usually take my 1300mah twist with my protank.

Also @ Blackchad about not building using a kayfun. I have watched a lot of people running dual nano coils and single nano coil builds in them. And it seems to be just about what I am looking for.

If you are really interested in making big clouds at home, you don't really need to focus so much on batteries and mechs. Instead of going low ohm, might as well go high voltage; for power you can just use an MVP plugged in via an extension cord; or some other passthrough-type arrangement; there's the Evic; even better there's the Provari with the passthrough module that goes inside instead of a battery.

Then you can focus on the real build: multiple coils

But I'm just talking armchair theory here; only rebuildable I have so far is one genesis type with a single coil.
 

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As did I lol.. I had to show it to a few vaping friends of mine lol

Yup; it's funny; but seriously if you want big clouds, it's not a battery you need; it is the POWER.

If you want POWER, you PLUG IN.

Once you settle down to that, you don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about battery safety and whether you have a pipe bomb in your hand.
 

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https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B423OSOvUSNvZmdxNE9FdjBla3c/edit


Look this up.

Sony vtc4 is the best bet you'll have with 30 amp.

Sorry for late replies. I had bowling league tonight. That is in fact the battery that I went with. I found a special on them 2 for $17.00
Also a little update. I got my 100% organic cotton balls from wallgreens today and boiled them two times for 15 minutes.

Now all that's left is to wait for everything that I ordered to arrive. which includes 100' of 30g Kanthal, batteries, ohm meter, my mod, my rda, and my charger.. I am hoping that everything should be here by around Saturday.

Like I said in previous posts, I will post pictures of my build progress once everything gets in, then upload a video of me vaping it once I'm done
 

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Ok I have to point this out. Stacking 18350 batteries when building sub ohm is a BAAAAAD idea!

18350 batteries have a very low maximum amp discharge. Going sub ohm on them is inviting a pipe bomb going off in your hand.

These days I only use the sony vtc4/vtc3 and the efest 1600 mah which is the same battery as the vtc3. If you want to sub ohm, these (imo) are the best, dare I say only, batteries to use.

With all the right tools, ok.. with the right battery.. cloud chasing is actually very simple. It is a combination of three major factors:
1) Coil resistance - the one you hear about the most. The lower the resistance coil, the more heat it will generate, the faster it can vaporize liquid.
2) Wicks - A wick that cant supply juice fast enough to your coil is going to result in a bad time. I know people swear by organic cotton balls. To be perfectly honest, even after building at least a thousand protank coils I still get that wick wrong sometimes. Its hard to use, simple as that, its a masters art. The easy way out, with zero expense of flavor or vapor, is organic cotton yarn. I use peaches n cream from walmart, ekru variety. It wicks sliiightly slower than the perfect cotton ball wick, but its consistent.
3) AIRFLOW! Nobody ever talks about this and it is a HUGE factor in vapor production! If you cant cool down your coils enough your going to end up with one seriously hot, burnt, nasty vape. If you dont have enough air to disperse the massive vapor production your coils are putting out, your going to end up with terrible clouds as well.

I own, and regularly use the IGO-W. It is a great little RDA, but the air holes that come on it are pin holes.. literally. You are going to HAVE to drill these out if you want clouds.

My favorite build is simple... ish:
- Twisted 30 gauge wire (read below)
I should note that the twisted wire is not at all like what they do on youtube with a drill. I take about 1.5 feet of wire and loop it over, then slot the loop into the clip on a pen. Grab the other end with pliers and start twisting. I do NOT twist until you end up with this crazy tight wire, doing so results in a massive amount of wire in a very small length, which ends up having quite high resistance. Instead, I twist until each... twist.. is about 1/16th inch long, I seriously use a precision flathead to gauge this. Using this wire your resistance per length is much lower than if you used
- 4 wraps on either side.
Simple spaced wraps, try to get them as evenly spaced as you can, as wide as you can.
- 1/8th drill bit
Actually a precision screwdriver works better.. but use what you have.
- 1/8th air holes
DRIIIILLLLL!!
- 6 strands of peaches n cream yarn per coil.
I make a snake /\/\/\ of yarn, where each / or \ is about 2 inches long. The three top loops I put over each other then use a small piece of kanthal to secure. Pass the kanthal through the coils and use it to pull the yarn through. Cut off most excess, leaving one loop on one side of each coil, stuff the excess under the coils, then cut off any excess that you cant get under.

This meters at 0.35 ohms.

Always ohm test your coils before you wick. Tap the meter to make sure your not shorting out anywhere, if the reading fluctuates, you have a short. Make sure your coils are not in contact with the pins, deck, walls, or cap of the RDA. If you short out, best case the coil pops, worst case... pipe bomb.

Good luck!
 
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