Is the FDA right?

[Devilbetterrun]

I seen this on a e-cig site and kinda got a little worried over it. I stop smoking cigs and went with e-cigs cause I thought it was safer and if I ever wanted to stop it would be easy. I'm not hooked on high nic 18mg is the highest I can go but wont do it all day long LoL So here it is...

Is the FDA trying to tell us that vaping electronic cigarettes is more dangerous than smoking regular (analog) cigarettes? Yes! The FDA HATES electronic cigarettes. Based on a very small study the FDA found trace (as in parts per billion almost undetectable) amounts of cancer causing agents in some of the nicotine juice. They failed to mention like amounts are also found in the patch and gum.
Instead of spending money on what could save the lives of millions of smokers they are spending it on advertising links saying electronic cigarettes are bad for you and they have an antifreeze ingredient in them. Yes, water is used in antifreeze too! Our tax dollars are being spent to smear a product a FEDERAL JUDGE has ruled the FDA keep their nose out of.


Are they right or what the hell do they mean cancer causing? Isn't e-cigs cancer free just easy to get hook on more cause you can do it anywhere and stuff like that? If any help on this would be great kinda a little scared or worried. Any info would be nice. Thanks!

 

[thephoenix]

Hey, boss. The FDA is way off base - they're acting in one of the most blatant displays of tobacco industry protectionism on this entire issue. They even admitted it in the last court hearing. "we have a domestic tobacco industry to protect" - or something to that effect.

check out this thread to answer more of your questions:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...its-letter-surgeons-general-armed-forces.html

 

[Devilbetterrun]

Awesome thanks phoenix! So I guess vaping shouldn't be scary LoL How many people that look at this thread really vape?

 

[thephoenix]

i've chain vaped now for 6 months straight.

never felt better!

 

[Devilbetterrun]

Do you know ( I haven't had time to read everything yet) what is the best to go with propylene glycerin or Propylene glycol or vg? I'm so lost and just don't wanna get something that is just as bad as cigs cause I did quit and wanted something safe or safer LoL
Chain vaped? How many batts you have LoL

 

[thephoenix]

Well, I'm a supplier - and with the current legal climate & the FDA, I would have to be a ..... to advise you of any health benefits of eCigs...so not comment, my good friend!

Check out our Health/FAQ and if it's really a concern to you, i advise you to consult with your doctor or the CASAA though before you make any decisions if you're really concerned.
CASAA | The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association

This way you can feel good about making the switch...at this point in the game, any supplier worth purchasing from will only tell you eCigs are a fantastic recreational alternative to tobacco cigarettes. Any health claims - run like the wind, my friend. It shows you they're irresponsible and not educated on what's going on...

But speaking from my own experience I can say first hand that I don't experience any of the terrible problems I had smoking analogs...no more cough...house doesn't stink! which is really reason enough for me to switch...

I have A LOT of batteries - and a 10 port charger...

but stick with MEGA 510s as they last really long...so it's really not all that bad on the charging front...

hope that helps!

 

[thephoenix]

oh and on the PG vs. VG. It's really up to the customer...

PG apparently gives a better throat hit and more airy vapor. Where as VG gives thicker cloudier vapor.

i personally don't notice a lessened throat hit on 24MG VG in fact, it's quite intense...

If you do opt for VG, I'd advise grabbing 60-70% VG mixed with PG - even 80% will do...anything higher I find the VG is too thick and constantly clogs my atomizers...

the other thing to note is that VG is inherently sweeter than PG, so it has a tendency to flavor mask certain flavors if you're a super-taster. for example VG cherry is not as "cherry" to me as PG - same recipe, but VG just isn't as cherry on my tasted buds...and VG tobacco flavors always taste like waffles to me! haha.

 

[TheMathClub]

Great post man! +1 to taht info, the fda has an agenda on our hobby, and it's not in your favor. do the research, read the toxicology reports, study up, there is SO much info out there, then reach ur own conclusions. i did, and im amazed that more smokers aren't doing this already, shoot, it just tastes better. just the facts... lol

 

[Dizzy-Jim]

Talk about hijacking your own thread! geeez!

Read till your eyes bleed ,,,,,, wipe out the blood from your eyes and read some more.

The FDA is too full of its self... Kinda Like the entire USA government...

 

[thephoenix]

shoot, it just tastes better. just the facts... lol

amen to that! i've been tobacco free for just a little over 6 months now...and about a month ago, i took a puff just to see...

basically gagged...can't believe i used to smoke 2 pack a day.

my lungs must hate me.

 

[Devilbetterrun]

LoL Awesome thanks for the info. I did talk to my doctor about this before and even got one of the other doctors to stop smoking and start vaping and they keep telling me thanks and so on with the other doctor trying to get them to quit LoL I mean hell why doesn't the fda do something about the sun that has been killing people and giving cancer LoL or even cigs. It was just I seen something and was like hell maybe e-cigs are to good to be true. I do know you can get hook on these more then cigs like I never smoked in any house and no damn I'm vaping everywhere I go walmart and anywhere to eat Its just good to know there are a lot more people out there vaping and know its not really bad just easy to use so we use it a lot more. I have 2 mega batt 6 small batts and like 20 ready to go atty and a lot of juice most from AV and Halo and friend got me on there menthol but mixing it with AV it just rocks Well thanks for all the info guys! And other things please let me know I'm trying to get as much as I can to learn so I can help more people quit cigs and go with vaping.

 

[WOW]

Get on a med. Talk to your doctor. chew licorice. anything.

1800-662-8887

Never quit quitting and you'll quit for real. This vaping is a business 'game'.

Be grateful that you got off all the chemicals but it's not a real quit.