Is there a 1st and 2nd Generation Joye Ego-T Atomizer?

[shack22]

Hey---I 've got 2 Joye Ego-T Atomizer's--each bought from a different Canadian supplier. They look identical(both say Ego-T)but when you look closer the post with the wick in it in the second one I bought is definitely larger than the post in the first one. Is there 2 versions of the ego-t atomizer? The second one with the larger post definitely vapes significantly better than the first one ever did(1st is 2 weeks old and 2nd is 1 week).If so do you think the suppliers are under an obligation to clearly state which version they are selling as I would certainly have gone with the atty with the larger post-it's that much better

 

[VapourGuy]

I don't know if there is 2 versions or not but I do know that there has been reports of some questionable attys and tanks coming out of the kitchen.

 

[shack22]

I 've actually had good experiences with both vendors--it wasn't the one you mentioned(thanks for the info though!).If I can get my camera working I'll try and upload photos

 

[rolandpibb]

I remember reading that the 2nd version has a pointed wick needle, and the 1st version is more blunt.

I don't remember about thickness though.

 

[Justice]

I've been told that the flat topped feed tubes are 1st gen and the pointed ones are 2nd gen and supposedly as you stated the 2nd gens are larger tubes

 

[Can_supplier]

From the horse’s mouth..

There are tons of rumors generating information here, based on maybe not enough information.

There is very little information from the manufacture, where there should be an abundance of information.

All I can do is be honest, and tell you, I don’t know and from Joye there has be no announcement of different version… Take that for what it’s worth.

 

[Switched]

The generation 2s from JoyE do have a larger diameter spout. All the rest is the same. Even the 1st generation spouts were spiked.

IMO this should assist in both the wicking and a better seal with the tank. Unless you have seen both, the difference will not appear noticeable, but there is a difference in tube diameter. What goes on underneath is anyones guess until someone performs a post mortem.

I confirmed this with "shack" last night at the meet.

 

[mgmrick]

Not only are there 2 version out there from joye but there are more than one maker of ego-t attys. This is going to make it real hard buying good ones. I have bought from 4 different vendors on these. Three of the vendors atty work well but the 4th vendors atty's are much better . They claim theirs are 2nd generation joye attys

 

[Switched]

If I am not mistaken, only the attys mfr by JoyE have eGo T branded on them. FWIW I only buy from one supplier once I source what I am looking for, or suppliers that deal exclusively in JoyE products. I saw your link in the eGo T thread, and yup, that is a vendor I would not purchase from because of his remaining merchandise (non JoyE).

Disclaimer: There is absolutely nothing wrong with this particular vendor as no false claims are being made.

 

[mgmrick]

How about version 3 ego-t attys?

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And the itank by bauway

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/173215-bauway-itank-cdn-vapor-review.html

 

[Switched]

The first link claims unbranded, what more does an individual need. The 2nd is clearly defined as Bauway and I Tank. It can't be clearer than that IMHO.

 

[Mooler]

Indy Vapor Shop has both 1 and "2,3" but doesn't say much about the difference.

eGo-T Tank Mega Atomizer Gen. One

Joye eGo-T Mega Atomizer (gen 2,3)

Interestingly they have Joye eGo-T Tank Cartridges Gen. 2 and 3

 

[Switched]

I would have to say the first link's picture is a knock off: pricepoint and no branding.

The second link clearly identifies it as an eGo T

Wrt the carts, I believe the add to be ambiguous. It would seem that perhaps it is thought that gen 1 were blue and gen 2,3 black and clear.

The black carts are reported as being better. I do not know. I have had no issues using them wrt leaking or foul taste.

 

[Pipeous]

I like the black tanks. I ordered a box and use them for my all day vape (they wick good and I can taste when it's low without having to look). I thought my v1 attys were wearing out because the new ones work much better but I'll have to look and see if the spike is any different. hmm. that might explain why I like the black tanks too then hehe

 

[Can_supplier]

Wrt the carts, I believe the add to be ambiguous. It would seem that perhaps it is thought that gen 1 were blue and gen 2,3 black and clear.

All colours were released at the same time, just there wasn't any stock to be had of anything but blue to start.

IF and that is a big IF, there is any difference, that would be attributed to manufacturing tolerances as I'm sure they all come of different lines/molds.

So for that gen 1 & 2 link above, it’s as swtiched stated, only one is a Joye product. Also to the best of my knowledge no ego-t attys came without "a tapered piecing tube" as claimed on the site.

People are falling for the placebo effect here. One atomizer last longer than another, as is always the case with any type atomizer, and it then looks like something is physically different.

If someone wants to solve the Cadbury secret here, I'd suggest the only way to do it is rip apart atomizers you suspect are different. Measure them with precision measuring instruments, (gauge pins, micrometers) the only way you are going to be able to detect any small "revision" as by eye just doesn't cut it. Then determine if the small difference, if any, are in fact a revision rather than manufacturing tolerances.

Short of that, I would just accept that there is one version of the eGO-T, and knockoffs don't count as another.

To add an example.. Some cartridges fit with some atomizers better, this applies to any atomizer/cartridge type out there. You know you get one pair that you have to almost force together, then the next pair are a loose slide fit.

The reason isn’t that you have different revisions of carts and atomizers, they decided to make the smaller for rev 2, its due to the manufacturing tolerances. You got an atomizer on the big side of acceptable and a cartridge on the small side, you have a loose fit.

The same idea applies to the internals of the eGO-T’s fit of the cartridge to the atomizer tube, and can account for small differences in performance.

 

[Switched]

Sorry Rob,

You are partially incorrect. I acquire my merchandise at the same place you acquire you merchandise from. (lets not get into a debate). V1 is the smaller diameter spike, V2 is the larger diameter spike, Now if you want to take the word of the Chinese against mine? Well I invite you to do so??

 

[Can_supplier]

You are partially incorrect. I acquire my merchandise at the same place you acquire you merchandise from. (lets not get into a debate). V1 is the smaller diameter spike, V2 is the larger diameter spike, Now if you want to take the word of the Chinese against mine? Well I invite you to do so??

Put me in the hot-seat with that question. Its like a ticking bomb, do I cut the green wire or do I cut the red wire?

LOL I'll admit the word of the Chinese isn't that good, so I'll go with you. You are the green wire?

But I'm going to turn this around on you. What difference in dimensions are we talking about here? Machining/production differences between the 2 so they can be told apart? Given your background, I know you can answer that Also what is the background between the 2 different units you have? I know you are the sort of guy to be the 1st on the block to have one, so is the 1 a very very early unit and 2 is something from yesterday? Same source on both units? All the background you can give please.

Just want to find out everything here.. Its a hard position to be in for a retailer. I'm assured one thing by my supplier, then a good source says something very different. What can I do? Say I don't know? Then I look foolish. But it seems I have been forced into a situation here where I may look foolish anyhow, for not tearing down a sample of every shipment I get. THANKS JOYE

 

[Switched]

No hot seat there Rob, it was more a rhetorical question.

Au contraire I am not the first one out of the gate to purchase anything. If we look at what is coming out of China these days, it is more or less a fancier version of what has been modded here before e.g the smart carts which all they really are is the Highping mod, but they will hold an extra 4 drops so I have been told.

The eGo T V2 does not require special equipment to tell the difference between the 2 units. The spike diameter of the V2 is quite larger and not a mere tolerance issue. If it is a tolerance issue, then yes their manufacturing specs leave allot to be desired, even for JoyE. When looking down at the spike it is easily noticeable. From a performance stand point the member reported improved wicking, which in turn does make sense.

For JoyE to make the bore larger makes sense, since several folks have wicking issues with the T system. I am only confirming what I physically saw, and have to support the OPs finding. Because it makes sense.

Notwithstanding, the OP stated he got them from 2 different vendors (Canadian), they are branded eGo T and have the same characteristics and look identical as my eGo T atty, with the exception of the larger diameter spike. If per chance someone else is manufacturing and branding the "larger" atties as JoyE products, then that adds to the problem now doesn't it.

My previous observations were never meant to make you look like a fool Rob. I and everyone else do not expect you to open every atty you receive. They are in a sealed package, and should remain sealed. As stated I know where you are getting your gear from and they are indeed reputable. I have no issues with that. I am vaping the smaller spike on my T, which was acquired from your source. As stated I do not wish to debate it here, and hence why certain words are used vice others. e.g source. Nonetheless, the OP has two different eGo T atties and the larger spiked one vapes better.

OTOH several myths were debunked during the meet the other night, through actual trials and certain claims were substantiated as well. Next time I will have to remember to bring my MM and test harness to remove all subjectivity.

 

[Kams Cats]

Is it possible there was a change in outsourcing of supplies for the atty? Which resulted in the slight differences. I think the only way people will know is if it is a consistent change.

then again, I have a great little e-bike which I can't get nuts for the front axle. Not even for the manufacturer. It has it's threading that is exclusively it's own.

 

[ksmith]

I found a link to a review on youtube yesterday that showed a tank with a silicone cap. The cap on my tanks are made from the same material as the rest of the tank. Could this be the difference between the 1st and 2nd,3rd generation tanks. I know alot of people were unhappy and having wicking and leaking issues with the ego-t. Maybe, just maybe, the manufactures started listening and made changes to improve their products. Just look at the Royal Smoker CE2's. They are up to generation 5.

Nevertheless, I sent IndyVaporShop a email asking the differences in the 1st and 2nd/3rd generation ego-t atties and will let everyone know what they said once they reply.