Is there a juice that can challenge the complexity of a good cigar?

[Chemical Bromance]

The nic levels are not incredibly important to me... even a light 3mg or even 0mg will do... But is there anything out there that's as complex as a cigar? With the different notes of woods and even honeys?

Is this too impossible a task because juice isn't loaded with enough "flavours"? While a real tobacco leaf contains complex organics?

I wonder about this because a good food chemical engineer should be able to pull it off. I knew a guy who worked on a green tea drink for one of the big soft drink companies. He had told me that the first few batches of samples were rejected by the client because they were "too much like green tea and too authentic".

One would imagine that authenticity would be what the big manufacturers would want to go for, but the sad fact is that our palettes are too jaded and the trick seemed to be tweaking a flavour to match what will sell and not what's authentic, if you catch my drift.

So, has anyone experimented with tobacco-flavoured juices and can recommend something?

 

[IntakeTemp]

U can try five pawns black flag enriched
Inspired by an eccentric drink called “Cigarettes & Coffee” at a local watering hole, Five Pawns has gone where we have never gone before. We’ve introduced just a hint of flue cured sweet Virginia tobacco leaf to Black Flag Risen in order to mimic two flavors that go together like no other. Notes: Decaffeinated cappuccino infused with a light truffle cream, accentuated with mocha dusted black walnut and just a hint of flue cured sweet Virginia tobacco leaf.


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[Chemical Bromance]

U can try five pawns black flag enriched
Inspired by an eccentric drink called “Cigarettes & Coffee” at a local watering hole, Five Pawns has gone where we have never gone before. We’ve introduced just a hint of flue cured sweet Virginia tobacco leaf to Black Flag Risen in order to mimic two flavors that go together like no other. Notes: Decaffeinated cappuccino infused with a light truffle cream, accentuated with mocha dusted black walnut and just a hint of flue cured sweet Virginia tobacco leaf.


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It sounds delicious!!

 

[IntakeTemp]

It sounds delicious!!

Five pawns juice are delicious. My personal favourite is their castle long. Their juice are different from the masses

If u like complexity, give five pawns a try. It didn't disappoint me.

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[crazyhendrix]

How about doing a tobacco extraction with the cigar? Maybe that will help?

 

[a_e_u]

DIY tobacco eliquid from real tobacco - how to do it...

 

[chia]

interesting vid. but curious about one thing tho. I understand the idea of vaping is to get away from ciggies and the harmful chemicals. what about the tobacco leaves from cigar? does it have the same chemicals inside? sort for the noob question, no experience with cigars..
but seems like a lot of filtrations involved, probably end up with only half the liquid you put in..

DIY tobacco eliquid from real tobacco - how to do it...

 

[Chemical Bromance]

The tobacco leaves that go into a premium cigar are supposedly picked from the tops of the plant, i.e., the best leaves, before they're cured then rolled.
For a long time, cigar smokers (myself included) have proclaimed that a premium leaf will have fewer toxins and better flavour. How much of this is fact and how much is hearsay, I really couldn't tell. It's all part of the cigar-smoking mystique.

 

[crazyhendrix]

Well, I would assume it depends on how they process the cigars. If they add less chemical additives or other stuff to it. I read somewhere that it's burning and breathing in of tobacco smoke---that's the killer.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

Well, I would assume it depends on how they process the cigars. If they add less chemical additives or other stuff to it. I read somewhere that it's burning and breathing in of tobacco smoke---that's the killer.

Yeah, cigar smokers claim that it's healthier coz you don't inhale,just roll the smoke in your mouth. But that being said, there's still cancer of the mouth, gums, throat, etc.

Cigars are supposed to have no additives... Frankly I'd believe that from the premium brands. The cheap stuff... Well, to each their own.


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[crazyhendrix]

Well yeah, but there's still second hand smoke that comes from lighting a cigar. So, healthier? I don't know really. I'm no health professional or scientist, but I guess smoke is smoke to me.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

Well yeah, but there's still second hand smoke that comes from lighting a cigar. So, healthier? I don't know really. I'm no health professional or scientist, but I guess smoke is smoke to me.

Hahahahaha, yeah, no one talks about the second hand smoke! LOL

In the old days when we could smoke cigars at cigar bars, it was like a room full of vapers were chucking serious clouds. The only plus side is that cigar smoke is pretty fragrant.
At first.
Stale smoke... bleeeuuurrrrgggghhhhh!

 

[smokyribs]

It sounds delicious!!

It is alright. A little too sickening after a while. In my opinion, black flag enriched is a tad too sweet, taking away that roasted smoky flavor that coffee and cigarettes have.

It tastes more like ash tray water mixed with a bit of coffee.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

It tastes more like ash tray water mixed with a bit of coffee.

Bleah. You just make me throw up a little in my mouth.


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[mcclintock]

If you make ejuice from a cigar, not only do you throw away some nasty stuff, the flavor goes a lot further, the ejuice is cheaper to use than smoking the cigars it came from.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

If you make ejuice from a cigar, not only do you throw away some nasty stuff, the flavor goes a lot further, the ejuice is cheaper to use than smoking the cigars it came from.

What do you mean "goes a lot further"? Like for more sessions and use? Or do you mean we get a more saturated flavour out of it?

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[Rickajho]

interesting vid. but curious about one thing tho. I understand the idea of vaping is to get away from ciggies and the harmful chemicals. what about the tobacco leaves from cigar? does it have the same chemicals inside? sort for the noob question, no experience with cigars..
but seems like a lot of filtrations involved, probably end up with only half the liquid you put in..

That's not what does you in. What causes all the problems is burning processed tobacco and inhaling smoke. That's where you get the tar from - and the damage.

Extraction is more about getting flavor out of the tobacco - you actually get very little nicotine out of the kind of "at home" processes we can do. You also get some alkaloids - that "missing ingredient" a few people just have to have in order to quit smoking with vaping. But again - you still aren't burning anything here and that's what is important.

There is a lot of information on NET's in the DIY forum. As far as I'm concerned a NET liquid is the only thing that comes close to an actual tobacco or cigar flavor. But since you aren't burning anything it's more like "it tastes like the smell of a good unlit cigar." That's about as close as you will ever get with vaping.

 

[Rickajho]

ECF is doing the dooplicate post thing...

 

[mcclintock]

What do you mean "goes a lot further"? Like for more sessions and use? Or do you mean we get a more saturated flavour out of it?

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Like 1 cigar vapes as long as 10 cigars, could be more, never tried it myself. But I think the companies that do it would have to charge a lot more if it took a lot of cigar$. e.g. MVJ w/Camacho Triple Maduro Cigar Vape, ~All Our Vape Juice, MyVapeJuice, LLC

 

[Chemical Bromance]

Like 1 cigar vapes as long as 10 cigars, could be more, never tried it myself. But I think the companies that do it would have to charge a lot more if it took a lot of cigar$. e.g. MVJ w/Camacho Triple Maduro Cigar Vape, ~All Our Vape Juice, MyVapeJuice, LLC

Oh I like those numbers!!!!

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