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Here's the screenshot of the setup that i want.
1)Tell me about any problems or compatibility issues.
2)Is this charger ok for this batteries?
3)Is this ni200 resistence good? The coils that i want to do are around 0.1-0.4 ohm, is that resistence ok?
4) Is this resistence ok for that tank?
5) Is this cotton ok?
P.S I want a build that make lots of vapor.
Fell free to suggest me some change in the setup.
Thank you
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The batteries and charger are fine. I use Sony VTC4 batteries and use a Nitecore i4 myself.

The SMOK regulated mod should be fine. My son owns the 150 watt version and seems to like it.

I've used Japanese cotton and its good stuff (and expensive). I use Rayon (cellucotton) from Salley's Beauty Supply, myself. A life times supply for about $10.

I can't speak for the Griffen tank or the nickle wire. I don't own the tank and have never used nickle wire. If you do use the nickle wire, make sure you power it only in Temp Control mode on your box mod. I've only used Kanthal wire and am quite satisfied.

I do suggest that you use an ohm reader and measure your coils prior to using them on your mod.

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Great info from Baditude. Just wanted to add that there's also much cheaper japanese cotton, but I also use Cellucotton rayon so the only brand of JC I used was Shiseido, which you can find at Sephora's or Sephora's at JC Penny for about $12 for 80+ cotton pads or something like that.

To add on to what Baditude said about the ni200 wire, you DO NOT want to use it in power mode. You can get great clouds from Kanthal A1 or stainless steel wire. 24g Kanthal will work great, could roll a parallel coil that'll fall in that resistance, but most importantly have a lot of wire mass to heat up your wicks. Since you're going for clouds, IMO, an ID of 3mm+ works best when pushing high wattage. SS Wire is a bit trickier to use, cleaner taste and lower resistance than Kanthal.

You can use the coil wrapping section of Steam-engine.org to figure out what to do. And remember that to get clouds, you don't need to tolerate an uncomfortable vape. All of my rings that I used up to 150w were all comfortable to vape and only warm at most.
 
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Great info from Baditude. Just wanted to add that there's also much cheaper japanese cotton, but I also use Cellucotton rayon so the only brand of JC I used was Shiseido, which you can find at Sephora's or Sephora's at JC Penny for about $12 for 80+ cotton pads or something like that.

To add on to what Baditude said about the ni200 wire, you DO NOT want to use it in power mode. You can get great clouds from Kanthal A1 or stainless steel wire. 24g Kanthal will work great, could roll a parallel coil that'll fall in that resistance, but most importantly have a lot of wire mass to heat up your wicks. Since you're going for clouds, IMO, an ID of 3mm+ works best when pushing high wattage. SS Wire is a bit trickier to use, cleaner taste and lower resistance than Kanthal.

You can use the coil wrapping section of Steam-engine.org to figure out what to do. And remember that to get clouds, you don't need to tolerate an uncomfortable vape. All of my rings that I used up to 150w were all comfortable to vape and only warm at most.
Thank you, I didn't know that I could't use ni200 in power mode. I want a wire that make clouds as the kental.
So you sugggest me the SS wire.
1)What do you think about this in the 24ga option?
link: Youde UD Stainless Steel 316L
I want to use it in the power mode modality and even in the temp control.
2)What's the difference about a SS wire and a Kental wire?
 

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SS Wire would be a good choice as long as you remember a few things;

1. Do not dry burn your SS wire unless you've turned the power down. I usually vape at around 80-100w, but I'm pulsing at 35-50 watt when I dry burn, not letting then glow bright, just enough to clean the coil.

2. It's more flexible. It can be harder to wrap the coils than with Kanthal. I make Clapton wire out of my SS wire, twist the ends so the tension doesn't loosen and then I use a Coil Master coiler to wrap 3mm ID coils. It gives me great looking coils that I can then tweak once installed. Because they're more flexible than Kanthal, it's a bit trickier to wick the coils.

3. Depending on where you get the wire, it could have some machine oil residue on it. It's a good idea to wipe the wire with a paper towel with some rubbing alcohol until the paper towel looks clean where you wiped it.

This is not that extensive information, just what I could remember off the top of my head. 24G wire will work great for you and the Youde brand you listed is widely used. Make sure to wipe that wire before wrapping or you might get a bad taste. If clean, SS wire is nice and clean tasting. I would also recommend grabbing some 24G, or even 22G Kanthal. I had great builds made out of Kanthal and is the wire I used when I started vaping in the 100-150W range.

I'd recommend you look up some videos on parallel coils, great for big wire mass, will work well for clouds. And if you're going to be building your own coils, don't forget to grab yourself a dripper with some big airflow. I got a few not too new in the market drippers, work great. Velocity clone from Fasttech as great airflow options and can go big air, but my favorite is the Sapor. Really hard to get that thing to leak so it makes it great for going out and bout, but it also has big airflow (Not the biggest) so it's a great option if you don't mind sacrificing a bit of vapor production for some more flavor.

Hopefully someone will come and chime in with any important info I might have forgotten.
 

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I would go with the Geekvape tsunami instead of the griffin. You aren't going to have nearly as much room for large coils in the griffin and if you plan on using your watts above 80, your going to need some pretty big coils. Have you thought about going with a single 18650 device, that goes up to 75-90w area? Personally I have zero problem getting huge clouds on my SXmini ML that only goes to 70w with the Uwell Crown tank and the Mutaition X v4s RDA. As for the wire, nickel is a ..... to work with, if you want something with lower resistance than kanthal, use nichrome, gplat (red is best), or SS. That smok mod can use SS in temp or power mode (as can most). Also, instead of one of this tiny $5 ohm meters, go with the GeekVape 521 tab. Much easier to build on as you can fire it on the meter to get out hot spots etc, then put in the cotton and top cap and test ohms again. Saves time and threading. I have the same charger, it's the best there is. Make sure you get plenty of batteries, the VTC4s are awesome, but won't last long, especially above 50w, I replace mine every 4 hours or so. Good luck. Watch some building videos while your waiting for your order to arrive.
 

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FYI Gplat is either SS316L or SS317L, they give you a small amount and overpriced.
Thanks got the tip, I have found it to be a lower resistance than regular SS, but after doing some research it sounds like a ripoff... It does work well for some applications, but screw paying that huge markup. You know anything about gold or silver wire? I am interested in trying since my mod can use it, but I've never heard of people using it.
 

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Nice set up indeed
Here's the screenshot of the setup that i want.
1)Tell me about any problems or compatibility issues.
2)Is this charger ok for this batteries?
3)Is this ni200 resistence good? The coils that i want to do are around 0.1-0.4 ohm, is that resistence ok?
4) Is this resistence ok for that tank?
5) Is this cotton ok?
P.S I want a build that make lots of vapor.
Fell free to suggest me some change in the setup.
Thank you
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Thanks got the tip, I have found it to be a lower resistance than regular SS, but after doing some research it sounds like a ripoff... It does work well for some applications, but screw paying that huge markup. You know anything about gold or silver wire? I am interested in trying since my mod can use it, but I've never heard of people using it.

SS wire is great, it's all I've been using since I got a nice supply a few weeks ago. SS316L and SS317L are the closest thing to Gplat. I tried Gplat and loved it, I find SS316L to be just as good. Great, clean wire and you can get it at a good price. No idea if gold wire is something that can be used, but as long as you have one of the SS wires that is mentioned about in here, you're good. I've heard of a few other SS wires, but I'm only familiar with the SS316L myself.
 

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Everything looks good except for as someone else said that nickel wire is a pain. I have the Smok R200 and I can't say enough good things about it. I have other mods including a Cuboid, an XCube II and a IPV3. I find myself grabbing the R200 more than any of my other devices. I have mine paired with a TFV4 Mini with a dual coil RBA and I'm sitting in a fogbank. I am running dual 22 gauge kanthal 6 wraps @ 2.5 mm 1.3 ohms at between 70 and 80 watts. I haven't run any of my RDA's on it yet since I have been enjoying the build on this tank so much, but I have a Tsunami on the way and I will probably try it out on the R200. I don't do TC so I can't tell you how the device performs in TC. I tried TC in the past and just did not care for it.
 
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Everything looks good except for as someone else said that nickel wire is a pain. I have the Smok R200 and I can't say enough good things about it. I have other mods including a Cuboid, an XCube II and a IPV3. I find myself grabbing the R200 more than any of my other devices. I have mine paired with a TFV4 Mini with a dual coil RBA and I'm sitting in a fogbank. I am running dual 22 gauge kanthal 6 wraps @ 2.5 mm 1.3 ohms at between 70 and 80 watts. I haven't run any of my RDA's on it yet since I have been enjoying the build on this tank so much, but I have a Tsunami on the way and I will probably try it out on the R200. I don't do TC so I can't tell you how the device performs in TC. I tried TC in the past and just did not care for it.

Sounds good, but would you buy an R200 or a Reuleaux RX200? They're about the same price. The RX200 requires a third batt, but that has advantages as well. I don't own either yet, and I'm leaning toward the RX200.

ETA: I just found the RX200 for $3 less than the R200. A shipment of em must've just made it through Customs. :D
 
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Sounds good, but would you buy an R200 or a Reuleaux RX200? They're about the same price. I don't own either yet, and I'm leaning toward the RX200.
I am the wrong person to ask as I just ordered a Reuleaux RX200 too:blush: It depends on your use. I bought the R200 as a friendly little pocket mod and the Reuleaux more as my stay at home Cloud machine. The Reuleaux with it's 3 batteries may be the only mod actually capable of 200 watts safely, but I doubt you will ever need that much wattage. That said the TFV4 tank is the only tank I have found that has pre-built coils capable of doing 110 WATTS plus as well as easy to build on RBA sections
 
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I am the wrong person to ask as I just ordered a Reuleaux RX200 too:blush: It depends on your use. I bought the R200 as a friendly little pocket mod and the Reuleaux more as my stay at home Cloud machine. The Reuleaux with it's 3 batteries may be the only mod actually capable of 200 watts safely, but I doubt you will ever need that much wattage. That said the TFV4 tank is the only tank I have found that has pre-built coils capable of doing 110 degrees plus as well as easy to build on RBA sections

Cool, thanks for the info. I've got a Topbox Mini to carry in my pocket already, so I think I'll go with the RX200 and maybe one of those tanks as well. :)
 
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Cool, thanks for the info. I've got a Topbox Mini to carry in my pocket already, so I think I'll go with the RX200 and maybe one of those tanks as well. :)
OOPS I meant 110 watts:oops: not degrees.... :blush:
Good decision on the Tank, especially if you are new to rebuilding. Eventually you may want to add an RDA to your arsenal
 
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