Is vaping at over 10w dangerous for health??

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addamvaper

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Another newbie question from me, apologies if it annoys anyone....

My friend is a science major and he told me the following when i told him i am using a Kanger subtank nano with a 0.5 ohm coil:

"you are vaping at a very high wattage, these are wattage settings that are not safe for consumers, most do not know about it, and the standard and safe vaping range for most is 6w-10w. Many E liquids are made for optimal performance within that range. People vape above 10W because they want to get more cloud, and when you want more cloud, companies just put a crap load of VG in their liquid so it gives insane vapor but you have to vape it at above 10 or 15w to even get the juice to vape well

If you look at the liquids referenced they use 50%-80% VG. VG needs high temp to vape, doesn't vape well in standard mods and needs high watts to vape to get flavor, that is why you can "taste" them better at higher watts.Not many people carry a sub ohm tank and a battery that can go up to 8V. 10W and above is burning the eliquid. At 7-8W you will get a good hit and a good cloud. It will not be insane cloud, but compared to normal smoking its better cloud. VG is like oil and dulls the taste and sweetens everything, and you have to heat it a lot, to get flavor, but thus it becomes hazardous to the persons health."

He also said regarding flavors in ejuice:

"In addition, a lot of the flavors out there are produced with chemicals that are known to be toxic or they are finding to be toxic (anything with cream, butter and cinnamon flavors are red flags for now), and will eventually be dropped and banned by the FDA."

He seems to know what he is talking about and he has got me reaching for my old skool clearomizer with the dry hits and ego pen style battery.

Can forum members offer me some insights and guidance on these two points. Much appreciative of your time.
 

Ou2mame

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Basically, volts x volts / ohms = watts. So, regardless of what wattage you're at, the voltage and ohms decide the temperature of the coil, so the watts are just another variable to get to that temperature. Whether you're at 10w or 100w, if your voltage is near the same, your temperature is near the same. And if your voltage is same, the ohms are severely different. Does he know about temperature regulated mods? Did he factor that into his ignorant bias?
 

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Your science major friend needs to take a class in basic electrical engineering. By itself watts is a meaningless term. Given a coil with enough resistance you could apply 100,000 watts and not be able to heat it over room temperature. It's like using volts as a term all by itself. You could kill yourself with 1 volt or send 1 million volts through your body and never feel a thing. By itself it's a meaningless term. Volts, Watts, Amps, and Resistance all have to be factored in together.

Does he even know what Ohms Law is?
 

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7 watts on my dual coil 22 gauge build isnt even going to get them hot enough to do anything. 7 watts on a 32 gauge coil is probably going to burn the juice pretty bad. If he can't understand that, he hasn't done much research.

Tell him to think of the different wires as different sized pots of water. The 32 gauge wire is incredibly thin, so we will consider it to be a tiny pot with a cup of water in it. The 22 gauge wire is pretty thick, so we will think of it as a large pot with over a gallon of water in it. The wattage we will think of as a flame that is trying to boil the water. If you put that little pot on the stove on low heat, it is going to boil soon. If you put that large pot on the same heat, it is going to take a lot longer to boil. The exact same thing applies to the wire. Larger wire requires more power to heat up. If you don't use enough power, it will never get hot enough to boil the juice.
 

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About watts:
You can boil a small pot of water on a 200 W stove.
You can boil a big pot of water on a 2,000 W stove.
Result will be the same: temperature of water will be 212°F (100°C).
The same story with juice when it transforms in vapor.

P.S. Science major should know that.
But inhaling huge amounts of VG, PG and flavorings...
 
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