Issue: PCC and Manual battery buttons

[Ragamuffin]

Hi all. I have a legitimate question, so if anyone knows-

I have three of the manual batteries and two PCC's. I like them very much, but I haven't been using them lately because when I screw any of the three batteries in the charger, the buttons all lay in a position where they will be 'activated' when I close the case and the battery is laying down in it's tray-the buttons are being pushed, so to speak. I've tried not screwing it in as far, but that does not allow them to charge at all in this case, due to the positions during threading. I know I can't be the only one this is happening to, and if you have a PCC, you probably know exactly what I'm referring to. Why on earth would the manufacturer design it like this? OR -does it really not matter if the button is depressed? I can't imagine that it would not matter. It would just use up the battery, probably faster than it could recharge it, and my batts would wear out even faster, I'm afraid. Maybe there isn't any remedy for this because threads are not really 'controllable'. I wish there was an answer to this, I really like having my PCC to carry around.

So, they are sitting unused. I keep charging the PCC's every few days, and the led goes red for a while, as if it's being used and needs charging, but I've not wanted to ruin the batteries by having them being effectively 'turned on' all the time they are screwed into the PCC. Any suggestions or theorys? Thanks guys

 

[jdvorr]

Could you cut a small hole in the case lining material that would give the button enough room to not be activated?

I've been charging a regular manual in my PCC without this issue.

 

[Ragamuffin]

There is no lining, the battery lays in a plastic tray. But the way it threads on to the fitting, it ends up laying on the button, on the sides and bottom of the tray, not facing up at the lid. The lid doesn't have a lining anyway, they are hard material cases. If I unscrew it enough for the button to be facing up, it doesn't light up anymore. My battery I had before these three batts just happened to thread on and tightened up with the button facing up, and didn't have this problem either. Maybe there just isn't any solution to this, and they will have to function as carrying cases only, unthreaded from the charging fitting when closed. Although, just maybe when it's closed it doesn't really fully push the batt into the groove, depressing the button. I don't know how to test this though...

 

[jamvector]

I've had this too with regular manual batteries; I think the pcc was originally designed for autos. The only thing I can think of doing is "shimming" between the charger socket and the battery post with a conducting material to cause the button orientation to be relocated after screwing in the battery to the charging socket. Darrigaaz has suggested using a simple staple, folded into a T shape so the middle goes into the battery hole leaving two prongs acting as shims between the battery post and socket post - be sure the prongs are short enough that they don't touch the outer wall of the charger socket though. You can also make simple "loop" or "washer" shims using different gauges of bare copper wire, between 18 and 24 AWG per Adrenalynn's suggestion - again make sure the conducting shim stays on the charger socket post and doesn't short against the side wall. Both of these mods were originally proposed to increase air flow from some carts that had a very tight draw, but are equally applicable to this problem. Maybe someone else has other ideas, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Regarding your previous post about the AC / USB power adapter, it should work fine for your PT - 2 A should be adequate. I suggest you confirm the current rating though, because you do need at least 1.5 - 2 A to light up the PT. If your PT works fine on a PC USB port, the wall adapter is probably not rated for the current required for the PT - at least with the lower resistance in the newer V4L premium carts. Have you tried any older carts? Good luck.

 

[davidcid]

I do not have a KR808 PCC. But I did see a video in this forum where they had an adaptor they could adjust with a flat head small screwdriver. There was a slot that goes across the center post when turned you can align the airway holes up and also move the center post outward and inward.
I mention this to you because there may be a similar adjustment on the battery connector of your PCC.

Hope it works

 

[Ragamuffin]

Thanks for the suggestion , Jam. I see how that could help with shimming it. Would tighten up in a different position.

As for the adaptor, what I'm saying is it does not operate any of the three passthroughs, I've already tried them with it. It should, but it doesn't. They all work on the usb port of the computer, but I don't want to use that. All my cartos are two months old or newer. I have heard of that issue though. It didn't work with any atomizers/carts either. And yes, the passthroughs are all fine, all operate in my car, using the same cartos. I'm not really sure what the "older" carts would look like, how I could tell if I actually do have any of them or not?

Thanks,

 

[Ragamuffin]

I do not have a KR808 PCC. But I did see a video in this forum where they had an adaptor they could adjust with a flat head small screwdriver. There was a slot that goes across the center post when turned you can align the airway holes up and also move the center post outward and inward.
I mention this to you because there may be a similar adjustment on the battery connector of your PCC.

Hope it works

Oh, I see what you mean. Good idea, I'll have a look-see! Thanks guys!

 

[jamvector]

I do not have a KR808 PCC. But I did see a video in this forum where they had an adaptor they could adjust with a flat head small screwdriver. There was a slot that goes across the center post when turned you can align the airway holes up and also move the center post outward and inward.
I mention this to you because there may be a similar adjustment on the battery connector of your PCC.

Hope it works

David, I have heard of that for an adapter as well; but if it's a V4L pcc, there is no adjustment in the socket head. You can adjust the carts by turning the slot in the cart to align air holes, but not the batteries. If you can find the adapter he is referring to, that may very well be a viable option.

Again regarding your wall adapter, if your PT's work fine elsewhere, and your wall adapter will charge a PCC / operate otherwise (ie puts out 5V), then the only possible explanation is that it does not produce enough current to operate a PT, and if so, then the 2 A rating is incorrect or mislabeled / misrepresented.

 

[Ragamuffin]

David, I have heard of that for an adapter as well; but if it's a V4L pcc, there is no adjustment in the socket head. You can adjust the carts by turning the slot in the cart to align air holes, but not the batteries. If you can find the adapter he is referring to, that may very well be a viable option.

Again regarding your wall adapter, if your PT's work fine elsewhere, and your wall adapter will charge a PCC / operate otherwise (ie puts out 5V), then the only possible explanation is that it does not produce enough current to operate a PT, and if so, then the 2 A rating is incorrect or mislabeled / misrepresented.

Ok. I got ya'. I thought maybe the power strip/extension cords, etc weren't putting out enough current themselves, but I guess that's just wishful thinking! I'll try getting another one. Thanks for the ideas, guys. Appreciate it.

 

[dEEzPuffs]

Same issue here. That's pretty lame man. davidcid, if you can link to that adapter it'd be much appreciated.