Italy decree which levies a 58.5% tax (plus 21% VAT)

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Hello to all forum members; my name is Gianluca Francolino, I am Italian and I am writing to inform you about something weird that is going on in my country these days.

Our government is going to pass a decree, which levies a 58.5% tax (plus 21% VAT) on e-cigarette components, spare parts and juices. Alongside with this absurdly high tax, a slandering media campaign is informing people on the negative effects of e-cigarettes. Such effects have never been proved. On the contrary recent studies (one carried out by University of Pisa and another by Abich labs and Onassis Cardiac Surgery Center in Greece) have instead proved that e-cigarettes are not toxic.

Because juices and spare parts are much cheaper than butts, at present e-cigs are both an inexpensive alternative for smokers who cannot afford the real thing and a viable help for those who would like to quit smoking.

If this law were passed, e-cigarettes would wind up costing just as their traditional counterparts (what a fortuitous coincidence, especially considering that our government has a monopoly on tobacco!!!), and it goes without saying that most people will no longer consider e-cigs a feasible alternative to cigarettes. Furthermore it is apparent that this decree is surrendering the e-cig business to tobacco lobbies.

From the first day of 2014 vapers will have to spend twice as much as they spend now if they want to keep vaping and Five-thousand shop owners, whose age vary from 20 to 45, run the risk of losing their jobs. This is both ironical and paradoxical, because this legislative decree is just an article of a more general law that aims at reviving our economy, increasing employment and decreasing taxes.

A group of Roman vapers is therefore staging a hunger strike in the Parliament square, supported by a few thousands other people (shop owners, clerks and customers) who come to Rome every day from all over Italy to demonstrate against this abominable law before it is voted and made effective.

Italian shop owners have also started an online petition, hoping they can put an end to all this. In order to get this decree cancelled from the text of the whole law before it is voted, the petition must be signed by 50.000 people. This is why we need help from vapers all over Europe. Please help us fight this unjust law and vexation.

Thank you a lot to all of you for taking the time to read me and all our gratitude to those who’ll help by signing or by spreading this news around Europe.

http://www.change.org/it/petizioni/...a-tassa-del-58-5-sulle-sigarette-elettroniche

Gianluca Francolino
 

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If it happens in the US it will really tick me off.. I jumped into this vape thing about a week ago after smoking a pack and a half a day. The last pack I bought was 3 days ago.. I can't remember the last time I had a pack of smokes last 3 days :) Anyway, The e-cig is the first device I ever found promise in when it come to getting off analogs.. I'm probably going to buy another pack today.. I expect that one to last about 5 day and I hope it's my last.. Thanks to the e-cig and the great support and advice I get from the folks at this site. BTW, If the government really cared if you quit or not they would just ban cigarettes in the US.. But they will never do that, they get to tax you to death as long as you're smoking.
 

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Stopped reading when i read about the tobacco lobbying bit. Fact of the matter, though everyone will totally disagree, is that if vendors bothered to lobby polititians, meaning they pay them, then none of this would happen. Money talks and all that. It appears not one vendor in the entire world has "lobbied" any polititians. This isn't just about e cigs, it's how governments work and have always worked in any aspect of society. If vendors are just going to sit back and expect the public to lobby government then we are all doomed and it's just a matter of time. Vendors should have been on this case from the very beginning, but they weren't. There is no hope !.
 

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How can they specifically tax metal tubes, buttons, springs batteries and circuit boards? Sure they could tax juice but a PV consists of every day stuff you could get from the hardware store. Build your own coils, they can't tax rolls of wire, and silica wicks used in many other products. Again sure they could tax juice, that is a given. But I think it'll be a losing battle to tax all parts and accessories.
 

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If it happens in the US it will really tick me off.. I jumped into this vape thing about a week ago after smoking a pack and a half a day. The last pack I bought was 3 days ago.. I can't remember the last time I had a pack of smokes last 3 days :) Anyway, The e-cig is the first device I ever found promise in when it come to getting off analogs.. I'm probably going to buy another pack today.. I expect that one to last about 5 day and I hope it's my last.. Thanks to the e-cig and the great support and advice I get from the folks at this site. BTW, If the government really cared if you quit or not they would just ban cigarettes in the US.. But they will never do that, they get to tax you to death as long as you're smoking.

And, I add, Big Pharma will continue to push their failed gums, patches, Chantix, etc. They love the return business.
 

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How can they specifically tax metal tubes, buttons, springs batteries and circuit boards? Sure they could tax juice but a PV consists of every day stuff you could get from the hardware store. Build your own coils, they can't tax rolls of wire, and silica wicks used in many other products. Again sure they could tax juice, that is a given. But I think it'll be a losing battle to tax all parts and accessories.

They will not tax the hardware components, but how many vapers are capable or inclined to build their own coils much less their own PV's? I believe this will create black markets in those countries that go this way. In the end it just makes it harder for people already vaping to continue and makes it very hard for new vapers to get into it.

Best of luck with it Gianluca!
 

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Best of luck with the petition!!:)
If the FDA or CDC gets its hooks into vaping and its products, you can rest assured....HEAVY regulation will follow!!
If our (USA) Government believes it can "generate revenue"/"reduce the deficit" through a tax - of ANY kind - they'll go for it!:(
The last analogs I smoked were actually "cigars"....they cost $13 a CARTON.....and they tasted like it.....!!
Even at that low price....with the right vaping tools I can still get my nic "fix" for about 30 cents a pack!!
FWIW....I submitted my "testimonial" to CASAA....There's to be a meeting with the FDA on Monday, Aug. 26th....
As they say....Stay Tuned....!!
 
Such BS. It is the same everywhere, the governments just can't stand not to get their hands in on a possible new tax! Just like the liberal democrats are pushing for here. They are trying to find ways to regulate it, drive up cost and in the end will probably try to impose a tax. It is not enough they tax the crap out of everyone already and kill business with such stuff as the new internet sales tax legislation, now they need to find more taxes.
 
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