It's About Time! Pico 25mm!
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Yeah. Too little, too late.
I do love my Pico but they really waited far longer than was reasonable and many of us who enjoy little mods but love larger toppers have an AL85 or multiples already.
That said, I'll probably score one. The colors are nice.
ed: I wonder if those new coil heads will be cross-compatible with any of the SMOK tanks. They look similar.
I do love my Pico but they really waited far longer than was reasonable and many of us who enjoy little mods but love larger toppers have an AL85 or multiples already.
That said, I'll probably score one. The colors are nice.
ed: I wonder if those new coil heads will be cross-compatible with any of the SMOK tanks. They look similar.
Yeah, I'll pick one up as well even though I have an AL85. Good for the stash, and hopefully as reliable at the Pico 75. Which brings up another point. Why increase the "rating" to 85W? I know it's a marketing thing against Smok doing the same, but neither are choices I would select if I really wanted 85W. I use my AL85 up to 50W, and get away with that only a few times a day if I have to step outside to vape, so I still get reasonable use out of a single battery.
Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing. Especially because according to Busardo's tests, the original Pico (at least with an earlier firmware) could only even reach a full 75W if you were using a coil in between something like 0.4-0.7ohms. My figures might be a little off but point is, his tests showed that (for example) setting the Pico at a full 75W with a 0.2ohm coil would only end up with around 60W of actual power even though none of the advertised limits should have been surpassed. I think some Chinese companies don't understand the difference between current draw on a regulated versus mechanical device.... Anyway, yeah, I question if the same issue will be present on the Pico 25, forgetting for a moment about whether or not it's the best idea to be using 85W with a single 18650 anyway.
I've got to imagine the 10W bump is almost entirely in response to the AL85.
I should probably know the answer to this question but I don't: does vaping at 50W (again, for example) on a mod that is capable of 85W save you more battery life than a mod that is capable of 75W? Or will the difference be negligible, all other things being equal? Obviously I'm asking about the 75W vs. 85W Picos/AL85/other one-battery mods, not about some theoretical dual-18650 85W device vs. a single battery. Agreed I would DEFINITELY get something else if I wanted to actually use 85W, or probably even much more than 60...
All that said though, like you I'll almost certainly get one to add to the stash, since I have slightly more faith in the longevity of an iStick than the AL85 just based on my own personal experiences. I'll probably even get a tank IF the coils are interchangeable with any other tanks, like the melo2-3/iJust heads and Atlantis coils.
I've got to imagine the 10W bump is almost entirely in response to the AL85.
I should probably know the answer to this question but I don't: does vaping at 50W (again, for example) on a mod that is capable of 85W save you more battery life than a mod that is capable of 75W? Or will the difference be negligible, all other things being equal? Obviously I'm asking about the 75W vs. 85W Picos/AL85/other one-battery mods, not about some theoretical dual-18650 85W device vs. a single battery. Agreed I would DEFINITELY get something else if I wanted to actually use 85W, or probably even much more than 60...
All that said though, like you I'll almost certainly get one to add to the stash, since I have slightly more faith in the longevity of an iStick than the AL85 just based on my own personal experiences. I'll probably even get a tank IF the coils are interchangeable with any other tanks, like the melo2-3/iJust heads and Atlantis coils.
The run times between mods with an equal number of identical batteries comes down to the efficiency of the DC->DC converter and the cutoff voltage. The cutoff on the AL85 is a bit higher than the Pico (whereas the Alien has a really low ~2.8V so no idea why they went higher on the AL85). No idea on the efficiency between the boards.
I don't have an al85 but I plan to get it along with this pico 25 , I don't have the standard pico either but will probably not get it after this 25 one coming out 
definitely no overhang here. Just out of curiosity eskie is it the baby beast or the big baby the al85 comes with?
definitely no overhang here. Just out of curiosity eskie is it the baby beast or the big baby the al85 comes with?
I'm posting this info in several threads, but in case someone is searching in the future, here you go...
Joyetech's new ProC coils in the ProCore Aries are compatible/swappable with Eleaf's new HW coils in the ELLO and ELLO Mini.
Joyetech's ProC1 is a more airy draw than the HW1 & HW2. I personally much prefer the flavor of these new Joyetech coils as well so I plan on getting the iStick Pico 25 with ELLO but using the ProC coils.
Joyetech's new ProC coils in the ProCore Aries are compatible/swappable with Eleaf's new HW coils in the ELLO and ELLO Mini.
Joyetech's ProC1 is a more airy draw than the HW1 & HW2. I personally much prefer the flavor of these new Joyetech coils as well so I plan on getting the iStick Pico 25 with ELLO but using the ProC coils.
I've got the BBB with the Smok G-Priv, using a RBA deck with it, the 25 mm tank won't fit on the Pico I have now, but I've gotten used to carrying the G-Priv with me. Maybe in the future the newer one would be handy.
The biggest selling point to the AL85 was the ability to fit a 25 mm tank. I like Smok, and I like both my Alien and AL85, but I still plan on picking one of these up as well.
Ooo, more Picos! 
Will definitely need to investigate these.
I've only got 11 of them... What's one or two more to accommodate 25mm tanks?
Wish I hadn't bought the AL85s that I just got recently now. :::kicking myself:::
Will definitely need to investigate these. I've only got 11 of them... What's one or two more to accommodate 25mm tanks?
Wish I hadn't bought the AL85s that I just got recently now. :::kicking myself:::
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Ooo, more Picos!
I've only got 11 of them... What's one or two more to accommodate 25mm tanks?
It never hurts to have a few extra mods hidden somewhere no one would think to look for your vapocalypse stash.
You're not kidding, @Eskie ! My husband keeps hiding them. 
I'm missing my SBody Macro 40w in pink and that one hasn't left the house with me yet, so I know he's either hidden it from me or he, in a fit of 'vaping-is-the-same-as-smoking' rage, threw it out. Really? I'm freakin' 53 years old on Saturday and I feel like I'm a 14-year-old kid trying to sneak a smoke. 
If he knew how much crap I've squirreled away... 
I'm sure a silver and a black Pico 25 will be in my future as soon as they land somewhere (can't wait until the ArcticFox software is updated for the 25s)!
I'm missing my SBody Macro 40w in pink and that one hasn't left the house with me yet, so I know he's either hidden it from me or he, in a fit of 'vaping-is-the-same-as-smoking' rage, threw it out. Really? I'm freakin' 53 years old on Saturday and I feel like I'm a 14-year-old kid trying to sneak a smoke. If he knew how much crap I've squirreled away... I'm sure a silver and a black Pico 25 will be in my future as soon as they land somewhere (can't wait until the ArcticFox software is updated for the 25s)!
You're not kidding, @Eskie ! My husband keeps hiding them.
I'm sure a silver and a black Pico 25 will be in my future as soon as they land somewhere (can't wait until the ArcticFox software is updated for the 25s)!
You can always rent a large safe deposit box and lock everything in there. As long as you hold your key, everything is safe. As long as you don't need a tank on a Sunday morning.
E leaf also has a Eleaf Mega kit that has been confusing me, it comes with a larger 26650 battery or the 18650 but a 25 mm tank will not fit on it. I'd like to put the Smok BBB tank on the Pico so I need the Pico 25, it's not in stock at Myvapostore and Fasteck says sometime in June, their tank would be useless to me.
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