It's Official!

[Opinionated]

I thought there were some reports here recently about several juice manufacturers filing. May be my imagination but I seem to recall some had put that on their home pages.

For a while I had thought one company was planning to file, and was making purchases from them based on that assumption and encouraging others to do the same just to be supportive of that goal, but later found it to be untrue and that there was no financial ability to file in any event.

So it's up in the air; if anyone had already filed it would be all over in ecigarette news, but I don't put it past some companies to make people think they are planning something they aren't now either just to boost sales, however temporarily.

 

[englishmick]

There was thread listing what was going on. I did a search and found it.

PMTAs - who is doing what?

I posted there saying NN was putting in an application for their juice line. I got that from their site but now it doesn't seem to be there.

 

[Opinionated]

There was thread listing what was going on. I did a search and found it.

PMTAs - who is doing what?

I posted there saying NN was putting in an application for their juice line. I got that from their site but now it doesn't seem to be there.

Okay so I was wrong on that... I wasn't realizing so many had filed already.

Well my son will be happy about that! He was planning on just going back to smoking when he couldn't buy any more ejuice because he's without the space to stock up and figured he was too young to do so in any event...

So thats good news!

 

[englishmick]

Okay so I was wrong on that... I wasn't realizing so many had filed already.

Well my son will be happy about that! He was planning on just going back to smoking when he couldn't buy any more ejuice because he's without the space to stock up and figured he was too young to do so in any event...

So thats good news!

We can probably hold a party when they start getting approved.

On the NN site they have a section for an outfit that provides services for anyone wanting to submit an application and help them through the process. And help with other aspects of dealing with regulations. Seemed like it was associated with NN in some way.

Juice won't be much good without hardware to put it in though.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Well my son will be happy about that! He was planning on just going back to smoking when he couldn't buy any more ejuice because he's without the space to stock up and figured he was too young to do so in any event...

While having enough storage space is definitely something to keep in consideration, stocking up can be done by the young and old alike..

 

[Opinionated]

While having enough storage space is definitely something to keep in consideration, stocking up can be done by the young and old alike..

I tried to get him to at least get some, I shopped for little freezers he could keep in his bedroom and showed him the ones which were ideal and more... never could get him to follow any of my suggestions.

Was like beating my head against a brick wall so I left him to his own life... told him I wasn't buying his nicotine because I couldn't afford to (not that he asked me to anyway) and that I trusted he could deal with it however he thought best (not that I actually believe he can or anything..)

Haha. Kids these days.

 

[ScottP]

Yes, but it's not a ban until it is fully enforced. From what I understand, there is a one-year "grace period" after the PMTA deadline (whenever that deadline is) to get "unapproved" products off the market.

The 1 yr grace is only for products that have actually been applied to give the FDA time to do the approval. Anything not submitted is banned as of the date. That said, yes enforcement will be the key.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

That's not vaping... that's a cartomizer;

Vaping is the act of "smoking" a vapor product. Cartomizers are vaping. Just not modern vaping.

There are still people here on ECF that use cartomizers. They are vapers, like it or not. What else would you call them, cartomizerers?

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Anything not submitted is banned as of the date. That said, yes enforcement will be the key.

True, and the FDA has already documented that enforcement will be prioritizes to close system products that are flavored.

They obviously realize, pandemic or not, they really don't have the resources to enforce everything all at once. And with the pandemic, they don't even have the resources to sneeze.

I thought there were some reports here recently about several juice manufacturers filing. May be my imagination but I seem to recall some had put that on their home pages.

You didn't imagine it, I read that somewhere to. Could have been a rumor, but I read it somewhere.

 

[Opinionated]

Vaping is the act of "smoking" a vapor product. Cartomizers are vaping. Just not modern vaping.

There are still people here on ECF that use cartomizers. They are vapers, like it or not. What else would you call them, cartomizerers?

There's a reason there wasn't a lot of people who could switch using those though...

However in your defense, I will say that while we only know of 2 products that have formally submitted their PMTA, (Vuse and the heat not burn thing) according to Vaping 360 the FDA has stated that there have been more than 30 PMTA"s submitted for approval.

Now granted these are not all vaping products as far more than vaping products need to submit a PMTA (cigar companies, nicotine manufacturing etc), but the number being this high it's definitely encouraging that some of those might be vaping related...

But it won't be much like vaping as we know it im sure, but hopefully it will be enough to keep people off cigarettes though...

 

[somdcomputerguy]

What else would you call them, cartomizerers?

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