IT's Time !!!

[zippersnapper]

You know, like a great many vapers, I really love my Provari. The build and quality is second to none. But also, as I'm sure the fine craftsman in the great state of Washington know, there is a serious inlux of Chinese mods that are real contendors. The obvious of course is the Vamo, then we have the Z-Max, so forth and so on. The ability of some of these are amazing. While I fully understand the ProV is in a league of its own, We cannot ignore these imports. (by the way, I own all of the above mentioned MODS including a ProV V2). Also have a eVic comming as well.

In the Automotive world we have many that love the Honda Civics that do 10 second quarter miles at 35 miles per gallon.
While those of us on the other hand, myself included, much prefer AMERICAN muscle. I am not suggesting for one minute that the Provari is second class to any of the above mention MODS, but what I am saying is this: I wanna see Provape build a NEW model, with 6+ amp capability, Kanger T3 native connecton, OLED display, Full VV and VW, ohm checker, the whole ball of wax. (leave out the stupid puff counter crap of course)

Lets make a real welding machine capable of 20 watts even on a 1.8 ohm coil, for those die hard vapers who like to see their juice go up in smoke. Lets make AMERICAN muscle the talk of the vaping world again, as opposed to all these Chinese MODS.

Very respectfully,

Zippersnapper

 

[MatrixTech]

Agreed!! Change and competition is a good thing, And I have no doubt Provape has something up thier sleeve Looking forward to something different with impecable build quality and also being able to support an American product!!

 

[Riverboat]

You know, like a great many vapers, I really love my Provari. The build and quality is second to none.

In the Automotive world we have many that love the Honda Civics that do 10 second quarter miles at 35 miles per gallon.
While those of us on the other hand, myself included, much prefer AMERICAN muscle. I am not suggesting for one minute that the Provari is second class to any of the above mention MODS, but what I am saying is this: I wanna see Provape build a NEW model, with 6+ amp capability, Kanger T3 native connecton, OLED display, Full VV and VW, ohm checker, the whole ball of wax. (leave out the stupid puff counter crap of course)

Zippersnapper

Hard to improve upon a Provari.... VW mabey, or how about some Rhodium Plated Contacts for both the atomizer and battery connections ? I prefer the LED screen over the OLED screen. its much brighter.. Ohm checker, isnt that the atty resistance (Ao) they allready have in their menu? ... 6+ amps? What you going to do with that. solder something? You say there is an influx of Chinese Mods that are real contenders? LOL They cant compare to the USA made quality/reliablty that Provape offers, plus the great customer service....

 

[tinstar15]

Not wanting to throw a wet rag on anything but.......wouldn't 6+Amps drain a battery quicker than hell? I could be (and probably am) mistaken but I thought that was about the top end for output on some batts.

 

[Riverboat]

Not wanting to throw a wet rag on anything but.......wouldn't 6+Amps drain a battery quicker than hell? I could be (and probably am) mistaken but I thought that was about the top end for output on some batts.

No you are correct...it will kill it fast! Thats why I use 3.0 ohm HH attys on my Provari, lower amp draw that way... I think the AW 18650 IMR battery can handle a 20 amp draw

 

[zippersnapper]

Well to be honest, I dont vape anymore than 4.1 Volts or 8 Watts. The ProV is just fine for me in that respect. For a great many however, more amp capability is needed.

My thread post was mearly done to provoke thought and discussion.

I will stand by my assertion that a new screen and menu is needed, a Kanger T3 fit (outside eGo threads and wide enough juice well) as well of course, a VW function.

 

[sawlight]

Meh! I like the screen, still not sure about the blank menu options, but I'm sure there's a reason for them. As for fitting other things, there are plenty of adapters, maybe not that pretty but they work. I still don't get the VW kick yet, seems you get more options and adjust ability with VV than VW any ways. Most people go by taste and I can't fathom how every atty and every juice can be the same on a watts setting alone, but that's my opinion.

 

[pho]

This is so true and I was thinking this myself last week.
I'm not American so the whole "made in USA" argument falls into deaf ears here, but I'm a long time provape fan and still prefer my provaris over anything else. For me, it seems though, that time has been standing still over at Provape. Because let's not sugarcoat it, there hasn't been any significant improvement (besides raising the amp limit) since the original design.
And that's fine, you need to milk a cash cow for all it's worth, but really, at this point no-one's waiting for yet another cosmetic redesign (which I'm afraid is what the 2.5 will be, but I honestly hope I'm wrong)
The time where the vari's pricepoint is justified because there's no real alternative is slowly becoming history, so with all due respect, QUIT SLACKING AND MAKE $H*T HAPPEN, PROVAPE!

 

[darkmoondreamer]

I spoke to someone at Provape today regarding the rumors I'm hearing (and a photo I saw some where here) about them coming out with a version 3 in January or February. She told me they would indeed have a new version in January or February, but nothing at all has changed except the design on the body of the Provari and the logo that is stamped on it

 

[zippersnapper]

I spoke to someone at Provape today regarding the rumors I'm hearing (and a photo I saw some where here) about them coming out with a version 3 in January or February. She told me they would indeed have a new version in January or February, but nothing at all has changed except the design on the body of the Provari and the logo that is stamped on it

Thanx for that info Tex......AND THAT SUX.......All I want to do is give them more money, and now they don't want it....Ohhh well...

Good thing I'm not the CEO. R&D, QA, and Product Improvemnt, would drive my Company. Its proven that if you sit by Idle, you WILL drown.

Rule#1 Todays consumers are educated
Rule#2 Consumers WILL pay for quality

 

[tinstar15]

Maybe they're just taking a more quiet approach. Look at Janty. They'd come out with something, announce it on the ECF, and a few minutes later the chinese would come out with an identical clone and steal all their business.

For all we know the folks at Provape may very well be working on the next break through that has everything you want and twenty other things you didn't even know you wanted.

Knowing their track record, they will want to make sure it is solid, well designed, and accurate before throwing something out there. They have a solid name and reputation which could be destroyed if they toss something at us and have it be a malfunctioning super dud.

Slow and steady wins the race....and telegraphing your punches is a good way to lose big.

Look at the most recent events:

1) They upped the amp limit. Mainly because of the influx of new VV users who bought a Lavatube and were disappointed that it wouldn't work with 1.5ohm DCCs. VV's are best designed for use with higher ohm cartos since it keeps the amps manageable and gives you better battery life.

2) They made a mini version. Mainly because of the Lavatube minis that people thought were great because of the size. If a shorter battery use time isn't an issue, then it's a great idea.

3) They teamed up with a great innovator to create a RBA that makes an already great device into a great semi-hybrid. Probably also due to the recent sustained interest in RBAs going on now.

Provape seems to be adequately responding to trends in a reasonable time frame. If there is a demand for it, they seem to be jumping on it. I've seen quite a few hot trends turn into yesterday's news in a short time around here. They seem, IMO, to be picking all the right ones so far.

 

[pho]

Maybe they're just taking a more quiet approach. Look at Janty. They'd come out with something, announce it on the ECF, and a few minutes later the chinese would come out with an identical clone and steal all their business.

For all we know the folks at Provape may very well be working on the next break through that has everything you want and twenty other things you didn't even know you wanted.

Knowing their track record, they will want to make sure it is solid, well designed, and accurate before throwing something out there. They have a solid name and reputation which could be destroyed if they toss something at us and have it be a malfunctioning super dud.

Slow and steady wins the race....and telegraphing your punches is a good way to lose big.

Look at the most recent events:

1) They upped the amp limit. Mainly because of the influx of new VV users who bought a Lavatube and were disappointed that it wouldn't work with 1.5ohm DCCs. VV's are best designed for use with higher ohm cartos since it keeps the amps manageable and gives you better battery life.

2) They made a mini version. Mainly because of the Lavatube minis that people thought were great because of the size. If a shorter battery use time isn't an issue, then it's a great idea.

3) They teamed up with a great innovator to create a RBA that makes an already great device into a great semi-hybrid. Probably also due to the recent sustained interest in RBAs going on now.

Provape seems to be adequately responding to trends in a reasonable time frame. If there is a demand for it, they seem to be jumping on it. I've seen quite a few hot trends turn into yesterday's news in a short time around here. They seem, IMO, to be picking all the right ones so far.

Or you could look at it from their point of view. How much has provape themselves "innovated" since the first provari design? Apart from cosmetic changes (yes the mini is cosmetic as it's only a smaller tube, internals are identical) and one single functionality (amp limit) which I'm guessing didn't even need a different chip design? Nothing.
They're still milking the original design and there's no sign of anything new on the horizon. As a provape fan I find this depressing because I look around and see devices from china with features that really appeal to me (evic with its firmware updates, the vamo with it's VV as well as VW, ...), but provape just keeps doing the same trick it's been doing for years.
And then this 2.5 nonsense... I don't regret any dollar I've paid to provape, but enough is enough.

(And please ignore the z-atty pro, provape did NOT design this, they just resell it)

 

[tinstar15]

I didn't mean to imply that Provape invented the ZAP, I merely stated that they teamed up with Zen to bring it together.

The main point of my post was to reassure people that patience pays off. Provape surely doesn't intend to sit still, stagnate, and fade into obscurity.

Sure, China's tossing out nifty features. But (quoting Jeff Dunham's Peanut character) polish a turd and it's still a turd. Good stuff takes time. Cosmetic changes don't require much effort so they come out quicker. R+D on a new chip set with new features takes time to get right. Quality components take time to manufacture and test.

I would love to see something new too, but I'd rather wait for it to be right. Besides, early adopters of anything new always end up paying through the nose to be the crash test dummy. Look at version 1 of any of the Chinese devices. People paid premium prices for things that you usually find at the back of the websites now on clearance for a few bucks. If I'm going to spend over $200 on a device (and I can't imagine that a higher tech Provari would be less), I'd rather prefer the kinks to be worked out before I get it.

 

[zippersnapper]

Or you could look at it from their point of view. How much has provape themselves "innovated" since the first provari design? Apart from cosmetic changes (yes the mini is cosmetic as it's only a smaller tube, internals are identical) and one single functionality (amp limit) which I'm guessing didn't even need a different chip design? Nothing.
They're still milking the original design and there's no sign of anything new on the horizon. As a provape fan I find this depressing because I look around and see devices from china with features that really appeal to me (evic with its firmware updates, the vamo with it's VV as well as VW, ...), but provape just keeps doing the same trick it's been doing for years.
And then this 2.5 nonsense... I don't regret any dollar I've paid to provape, but enough is enough.

(And please ignore the z-atty pro, provape did NOT design this, they just resell it)

Increadably well said.

The Provari is quickly becoming extinct. Even the amp limit "upgrade" is not even up to snuff with a cheap Chinese "Anyvape CVI" just as an example.

Keep in mind. I LOVE MY PROVARI, but its time to get with the times, and not fall behind. Maybe those new vapors up in comming will snatch up one of these new "pretty" designed V3's...but I'm sure I speak for a great many more...we want and expect a little more from these fine craftsman.

Hell, they could always stick a Evolv DNA chip in it, and rock and roll with their manufacturing expertise on the rest if nothing else...

 

[NeonPriest]

i agree, i love my provari mini but would like to see an upgrade. would buy one in a heartbeat, im sure all us owners would. i also believe that they will be left behind if they do not keep up with the times, more so then minor upgrades, which is sad because i love mine and i am in no way knocking it, just agreeing that they need to step it up and come out with a new version with major changes, not just cosmetic mini change, which btw i dont like the new design. anyway heres hoping for something big from them this year...

 

[kiba]

I would prefer a higher amp cutoff so i dont get error codes w/ the coil/voltage combo that i want, that would make me fall back in love w/ provape again.


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[Riverboat]

Thats why I use 3.0 ohm attys, works best and draws less amps....

 

[GrannyGrump]

ProVape might be thinking "if it aint broke, dont fix it". Would be nice to see an upgrade.

 

[Riverboat]

ProVape might be thinking "if it aint broke, dont fix it". Would be nice to see an upgrade.

Its hard to beat a V2 Provari chip.... VW would be a nice option though

 

[kiba]

Thats why I use 3.0 ohm attys, works best and draws less amps....

i hear ya but 3 ohm coils take a while to heat up, i prefer lower if possible, plus more vapor that way imo