I've tried all hardware... still cant figure out the issue

[RedhatPat]

When every delivery system sucks, maybe it's not the delivery systems that suck. Both the power source and the e-liquid play equal rolls with the delivery system.

I agree TJ. OP: Try using a higher nic juice, that should give you back any TH you're lacking with some of the delivery devices you mentioned. Besides, it's easier and cheaper to rule out juice being the culprit than upgrading batteries. I swear, if I have a twist next to a tube style vv mod vaping the same delivery device at the same voltage, the twist/spinner just tastes off to me. Could just be in my head, though.

RHP

 

[wv2win]

There's about ten different things it could be, most already mentioned.

I used to love the evod more than any other vape including the Protank. When I added air flow control to the Protank, and made it draw like the evod, I thought I had found it. Neither compares to a carto tank, NOT A CARTO, a carto tank, properly primed and punched, vaped at the correct coil temperature (Watts/volts). The reason the evod changed from my favorite to NOT MY FAVORITE, is because my taste buds changed. I didn't realize this at first. Suddenly, I could taste the wick a bit more, the heated wick/slight burning of the wick a bit more, etc. Still loved the draw, but too many untasty things now emerged. It was me, not the wonderful evod. I tried re-wicking, turns out I could do that fairly easily after a few attempts. Turns out that cotton tastes better than silica and vapes a bit better, probably due to better saturation. Like you, I pursued the best vape possible, within reason, and not requiring rocket surgery.

My pursuit led me to check out carto tanks. Bingo. Not only a better vape, in every way, VTF (vapor, throat hit, flavor), but they don't leak either. Once you stop dumping the whole tank of juice in your lap (early learning curve issue - and need to be careful - and procedurally accurate), and getting the right tanks and tank tools (Big Daddy's SYM and case, my favorite) and the Siam Mods Carto Punch, not the smoktech, my preference and a big Wow difference. The wife feels the same way. Cartos are a personal preference, and many swear by their favorite brand. I like the Boge's, but I haven't tried Ikenvapes yet (their site is still down), and want to. Usually buy in bulk, five boxes for $25 and free shipping, so a buck a piece, or about the same price as a head coil on the evod, maybe even less (unless re-wicking). IBTanked and Phiniac tanks (love the Phiniac - sandblasted dragon name Puff), and the wife's purple moon fairy. Now my ADV, and rarely use the evods ever now. Occasionally use the PT and Davide's out of the house (convenience). Punch the cartos five in advance (one box), so ready to prime and use without much hastle, and similar to replacement coils. Just a great, great vape, imho. Prefer the standard size and resistance over the XL's and F16's. Won't get into RBA's, but starting my journey there and have four nice pieces so far (but really a different post/thread).

Anyway, my rambling two cents. Good luck, happy hunting, Power up and Vape On!

Well stated, Bill. When I see all the "hoops" people jump through to use clearos, when there is a much more consistent and easier alternative, I really don't get it. I understand why some people prefer dripping on an atomizer, because it provides probably the best vape. But it's a hassle for sure. Clearos? - no upside at all from my experience.

 

[Fizzpop]

You cheated! You rebuilt! Not Fair!

I don't rebuild regularly anymore, but when I did I used as much cotton as I could stuff into that little opening. I have a five-pack of mislabeled heads that were supposed to be 2.0's but are reading 2.5 on the multimeter. I'll end up rebuilding those.

When dealing with off-the-shelf or out-of-the-mail BCC heads, it's rarely a good idea to remove the flavor wicks. Like I said, they're there for a reason.

Yes, I generally use the coil till it craps out and then rebuild with 3mm silica. I agree that one should not remove the flavor wicks on a coil out of the box. Doing so is an invitation to flooding.

 

[skakid812]

Thanks for all the input, I think I am going to give carto tanks a go... only downside is they are pretty bulky right?

 

[Mike Sheda]

*edit* what you can try to improve the flavor and wicking is removing the little silicone washer from the coil head that sits between it and the air shaft. It may result in leaking but I have done it before successfully. Just put it back when it leaks and keep vaping through a few tanks.

Just flip it over. Won't leak,and does the same thing you are trying to do, not get in the way of the wicks.

These in an EVOD or a Pro-tank on a Ctwist are great.
Kanger ProTank Coil Replacement **5 Pack - 2.2 ohms

 

[Myrany]

Thanks for all the input, I think I am going to give carto tanks a go... only downside is they are pretty bulky right?

Not necessarily the boge F17 and the smaller DCT tanks are nor much wider than an ego battery. I believe the diameter is 19mm so very slim and sleek.

 

[Radar2013]

I was going to ask could you have bought the wrong resistance level on the replacement evod heads? That would change how they perform at the same voltage (Standard ego batterys are not Variable voltage). For a standard ego battery you want a head in the 1.7-2.0 ohm level roughly or so I found.

For myself I skipped over using carto's and went right to carto tanks. There are many out there from a few dollars up to the big bucks. They all essentially boil down to a carto with holes punched in it inside a tank of liquid (tube).

Look for the ECF member Baditude and hit up his blogs for LOTS of wonderful information about all kinds of delivery devices including wonderful instruction on carto tanks.

Carto tanks just ended up being my foolproof method. It varies for everyone.

Myrany you took the words out of my mouth..... I am using EGO Kanger EVOD 1.7ml. They cam with the stock 2.6ohms. When I purchased them I also purchased the 1.8ohm replacement coils. I have set up 2 so far and before filling them I have changed out the coils. I will use the 2.6 as back up. I am using a standard EGO-C battery (Atleast until my new EGO Evic 2600mAh gets charged up) and I have had no problems. The juice taste is awesome, the Vapor is great (and Im a hard hitter).... My Suggestion to this author is this: SLOW DOWN and RELAX.... Change out your Atomizer on your EVODs to 1.8. When you fill the EVODs use a syringe with needle. DO NOT fill to the top of the little window on the side. Give some room... Place the coil back on the tube and tighten. Let this set now for 3-5 mins. Put on battery but do not crank it down... Finger tight is sufficient as I just now learned. Turn the battery on and vape. Now when you Vape if you will notice there are 4 micro holes at the base of your EVOD... DO NOT cover them with your finger. This will not only let the venting process take place but it will flood your coil wicks... I was taught this by a Veteran here... This could be your problem with your taste and non vapor producing....

 

[skakid812]

Myrany you took the words out of my mouth..... I am using EGO Kanger EVOD 1.7ml. They cam with the stock 2.6ohms. When I purchased them I also purchased the 1.8ohm replacement coils. I have set up 2 so far and before filling them I have changed out the coils. I will use the 2.6 as back up. I am using a standard EGO-C battery (Atleast until my new EGO Evic 2600mAh gets charged up) and I have had no problems. The juice taste is awesome, the Vapor is great (and Im a hard hitter).... My Suggestion to this author is this: SLOW DOWN and RELAX.... Change out your Atomizer on your EVODs to 1.8. When you fill the EVODs use a syringe with needle. DO NOT fill to the top of the little window on the side. Give some room... Place the coil back on the tube and tighten. Let this set now for 3-5 mins. Put on battery but do not crank it down... Finger tight is sufficient as I just now learned. Turn the battery on and vape. Now when you Vape if you will notice there are 4 micro holes at the base of your EVOD... DO NOT cover them with your finger. This will not only let the venting process take place but it will flood your coil wicks... I was taught this by a Veteran here... This could be your problem with your taste and non vapor producing....

Thanks for your input, I know I need to slow down I get too anxious! I didnt mention this before, but I do think some of the juices I have tried can contribute to the performance. Before I knew about the whole "tank cracker/etcher" I loaded up one with some of those juices and didnt notice anything at first, but can see the damage now. I tried good life vapors baja breeze, some moon mountain vapors, mountain dew, and others. Not sure if they are the culprit but the tank has a very fogged look to it, almost looks like lime scale deposits where the permanent drip tip is.

 

[jefsview]

I can't believe no one mentioned the iclears.

Like the evod but want more flavor and vapor: iclear16

Want more capacity, great flavor and vapor: iclear30.

 

[skakid812]

I can't believe no one mentioned the iclears.

Like the evod but want more flavor and vapor: iclear16

Want more capacity, great flavor and vapor: iclear30.

Never heard of them before.. they look similar to the ce3s... are they pretty similar except the fact that you can replace heads?

 

[RedhatPat]

Carto's totally taste better than clearos plus less juice is wasted with polyfill in cartos than those long silicia wicks in iClear's in my opinion. JUICE ABUSE IS A REAL CRIME FOLKS! Just had them loaded tonight, vaping shotgun-style, an iclear16 on the MVP and a fully saturated 'n primed single coil boge xl on the SVD, I kept coming back to the boge, folks. The Boge!

But when it comes to clearo vs clearo, I think the iClears are awesome 'n sure do beat the socks off the vivi novas I had to endure last year.

RHP

 

[SissySpike]

Ive read alot of people dont fill them past 60% to avoid flooding issues

 

[Rickajho]

It's all about the variety.

I agree about top coil anything with long wicks - fighting the laws of physics is just dumb. Bottom coil clearos are a bazillon times better (my opinion) with no screwing around required to keep the wicks wet.

On the other hand I've never met a carto - in a tank or otherwise - I didn't hate within 48 hours. Tops.

At least both options are so inexpensive there is no reason to not try both.

 

[RedhatPat]

I like to flood my cartos then blow em out (mouth around threads blowing out into a tissue) so then there's no gurgle and the first few puffs are bliss.

The juice plays a big factor too so I dont think my cartos would last more than 48 hrs with my old favorite bobas bounty because it gunks up quick.

But this BFC from ms t ehich is thinner really isn't hurting carto performance, I have had the same 3 cartos with bfc in rotation for a week in a half now.

So happy about it that I'm probably talking about how good cartos are in the wrong thread

Oh my, I need to get out more often folks!



RHP

 

[Rickajho]

The thing that really drove me nutz about cartos was when the vent tube either collapsed - and you were sucking until your eyes popped out of the sockets to get any draw off it. Or the vent tube collapsed and/or developed a puncture - in which case I was drinking juice through a straw while getting no vape either. And Jeez - this wasn't anything insane I was doing. LR or SR cartos at 3.7 volts or less.

Then 'Bad made me a believer - told me Ikenvape was the bestest carto ever. Finally wore me down, went to the site to order some... and the site is closed for weeks while it's going through some e-commerce restructuring. Waaahhh! Still closed last I checked.

They just never worked out for me. Best to just leave it at that. lol

That elusive dream, of a carto lasting a whole six days - never happened.

Wonder whatever happened to the OP?

 

[cramptholomew]

In my limited experience: the Protank heads work FAR better in the EVODs, than the short tube old style EVOD heads. Some people like the old style heads, but I can't figure that out for the life of me. They leak like crazy once your below a half of a tank of juice. I haven't had one NOT leak. The longer post on the Protank heads eliminates that. That said, I tear the heads apart, and re-wick/rewire before I use them. I use 6 strands of cotton butchers twine, and a 5 wrap microcoil of 32g kanthal, which always makes a 1.7ohm coil. Haven't hqd a leak yet, and the wick performance is unbeatable. I'm vaping an EVOD full of Boba's as I write this, and it's working like a champ.

 

[jefsview]

The iclears are dual coils and it's a nice warm vape, lots of flavor and vapor. A tighter draw than the evods/protanks. Easy to fill. The heads are replaceable and work extremely well.

Every juice delivery device is fiddly. Every device has pros and cons and everyone has an opinion on them. I never cared for cartos. And the BCCs are all airy and inconsistent. The iclears are consistent for me. Your mileage may vary, of course.

 

[RedhatPat]

Rick, you sound like me back in my bobaholic days. I had to resort to dripping because something about that thick NET wouldn't vaporize completely and I could have a swiss cheese punched cartomizer in a tank 'n it still wouldn't matter. Luckily tastebuds change over time and I switched to another ADV juice thats not even a NET, has PG and lil thinner. Now I'm revisiting old delivery devices with a new life.

RHP

 

[Rickajho]

Rick, you sound like me back in my bobaholic days. I had to resort to dripping because something about that thick NET wouldn't vaporize completely and I could have a swiss cheese punched cartomizer in a tank 'n it still wouldn't matter. Luckily tastebuds change over time and I switched to another ADV juice thats not even a NET, has PG and lil thinner. Now I'm revisiting old delivery devices with a new life.

Initial stages of Bobaholicism, juicey lips, nic coma, cant afford comb..

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RHP

ROTF...!

Well I am a VG user... And I admit to trying Boba's - but I never inhaled or something. Never figured out the fuss. You know what "mixed berry" really is? I did a stint in a food processing plant. "Mixed berry" is all the "stuff" left over from other production runs, thrown together to make one last production run. Boba's kind of reminded me of that. Blasphemy - yeah, I know.