Japanese Cotton First Impressions

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ilmostro99

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So, I've been using just regular cotton balls, non-organic, non-boiled, etc., etc., for a while now (it's all I could find around here). I had been using them in a Mini Pro-tank 2 and I have to admit...SO much better than the stock silica heads it came with. Anyway, I recently purchased a Svoemesto Kayfun Lite v2 and still using the same cotton balls. Kayfun vs. PT2... the improvement in vape quality was beyond words.
I've been reading lately about Japanese Organic Cotton (JOC) and how much better it is, like it's the second coming ... Needless to say, I wanted to try it. Started looking on Amazon, but the KGD was sold out, Muji was sold out, but I found Puff, 100% Japanese organic cotton sheets, non bleached, non treated etc., (~ $10-$12 for about 200 sheets) so I made the purchase. They arrived today and I couldn't wait, so I sat in my car, ripped my old wick out, and put in my new Japanese Organic Cotton.

I have an authentic Kayfun Lite v2, 1.6 ohm, 28 gauge micro coil wrapped around a 5/64 drill bit, ~1.5 mm off the deck, sitting on an MVP v2 running at 11 watts. Using a DIY Absinthe (TFA) 11% flavor, 10 mg nic, 50-50 pg/vg.

First Impressions:
Ease of use - Cotton sheets are easier than cotton balls to work with. I split 1 down the middle, snipped off what I needed and threaded it through. I never had trouble with cotton balls, but I have to admit, this was a bit easier to work with.
Wicking - So far, it is hard to tell. I've never had ANY wicking problems with regular cotton balls, so in my opinion this is a wash.
Vapor - I don't have any of PBursado's fancy equipment to run a scientific test on this, but to my eye, vapor production seems to be about the same.
Throat Hit - JOC seems to be a slight touch more than cotton balls, but not by much. My next batch of DIY, I will probably try around 8mg nic.
Flavor - The JOC is a little bit better. I can taste a tiny bit more "sweetness" coming out of the juice, but it really isn't a huge difference. Taste appears to be a little "cleaner" (for lack of a better word) also. Again, not a big difference, but a slight improvement.
Durability - Honestly can't say on this one. I've only been using it for about 30 minutes now.

Conclusions:
I will give the nod to the Japanese Organic Cotton (JOC), but not by much. Flavor, throat hit and ease of use all appear to be a tiny bit better. I feel a little better about using organic, unbleached cotton, but performance wise, I do not see much of a difference. That being said, realize that I have never had ANY wicking/flavor/performance problems using my old cotton balls. If you have had problems with wicking cotton balls, my guess is it is either your device or the way you wick it. The only time I've had a dry hit on my Kayfun is when the tank goes dry.
I will continue to use my JOC pads for probably the next year and a half, but that is only because this bag is going to last me that long. Would I purchase them again? Maybe. Next time around (assuming there isn't a new, latest & greatest wicking material), I would buy them, but ONLY if the price was comparable to organic unbleached cotton balls. There is no chance in hell I would pay the kinds of prices some of these rip-off artist are charging for this stuff. My personal opinion is that a lot of the hype is coming from either those that are trying to sell you this stuff at ridiculously inflated prices, or from those who paid those prices and have convinced themselves that it was worth what they paid for it (and that's ok. If you are getting enjoyment out of it, that is all that matters. Satisfaction is 99% mental anyway).
If you can find them easily and they are reasonably priced, get them. If not....well, it's your money.
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I used the CVS organic cotton in my KFL+'s and was always fighting dry hits. I can admit it was probably my fault but I just couldn't get it down.
Started using the rayon and KGD and haven't had a single problem with wicking ever since.
It also helped ditching the Kayfuns and switching over to Herons and Spheroids. I cringe everytime I have to set up or deal with my boss's Russian now as it's such a pain in the ...
 

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After re-reading my original post, I see that it looks like I'm bad-mouthing the Japanese cotton and saying that if you can't get cotton balls to work, it's your fault. That is not what I intended. I am sure the wicking properties of Japanese cotton are superior. The fact that the cotton fibers are running primarily in parallel tells me that it should work better. I just have not experienced it. That could be that I either somehow nailed it with my cotton ball build, or (probably more likely) that I am building a crap-build with my Japanese cotton and don't know the difference. I've only been building for about 6 months now and I don't exactly have a lot of experience with different devices and different builds. All I know is that it is working for me either way. Sometimes ignorance is bliss:).
 

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I've switched from organic cotton balls, to cellucotton (rayon), to Koga cotton pads. Each step of the way has had minor but noticeable improvements in wicking and flavor, IMHO.

For Kayfun-style tanks, I recommend trying the cotton nest wick technique. I've not had a dry hit since adopting this.

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After re-reading my original post, I see that it looks like I'm bad-mouthing the Japanese cotton and saying that if you can't get cotton balls to work, it's your fault. That is not what I intended. I am sure the wicking properties of Japanese cotton are superior. The fact that the cotton fibers are running primarily in parallel tells me that it should work better. I just have not experienced it. That could be that I either somehow nailed it with my cotton ball build, or (probably more likely) that I am building a crap-build with my Japanese cotton and don't know the difference. I've only been building for about 6 months now and I don't exactly have a lot of experience with different devices and different builds. All I know is that it is working for me either way. Sometimes ignorance is bliss:).

I didn't think you where bad mouthing it. Sounded like you thought it was the same stuff, but easier to wick with. no real performance enhancement.
My experience is a bit different (as I stated above).
It doesn't seem like any posts here are defensive, just different experiences :)
 

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I've switched from organic cotton balls, to cellucotton (rayon), to Koga cotton pads. Each step of the way has had minor but noticeable improvements in wicking and flavor, IMHO.

For Kayfun-style tanks, I recommend trying the cotton nest wick technique. I've not had a dry hit since adopting this.

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NICE! I'm going to have to give that a try. When it starts getting dry usually a quick blow to "flood" the wicks solves my problem. chain vaping 100% pg liquids dont wick quite as well XD
 

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I enjoy my Koh Gen Doh. Didn't pay hyper inflated prices and I am sure my bag will last way over a year. I think the flavor and wicking is better, but I understand everyone has their own experiences. For the benefit of those reading this thread. Along with splitting the pad down the middle make sure you cut your strips with the grain not across the grain. Also, if you want more vapor out of your kayfun give the nest method a try.
 

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I didn't think you where bad mouthing it. Sounded like you thought it was the same stuff, but easier to wick with. no real performance enhancement.
My experience is a bit different (as I stated above).
It doesn't seem like any posts here are defensive, just different experiences :)
I didn't take it that any of the posts were defensive. It was just that after I re-read it, it didn't come across exactly the way I intended.
 
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