Yeah the Stingray is beastly as far as "hard hitting" goes. I absolutely love mine, and based on how awesome it is, I jumped on a pre0order for the new black/copper Stingray pretty much the second I saw it was available.
Im not even really much of a brass guy... I prefer my
mods to be stainless or copper, and use brass as an accent color.. but this stingray with the phantom brass, is really sharp looking.
The Victoria is definitely a cool looking
mod, its right up my alley, so I can't say DONT get it.. but I havent used it, and I CAN say the Stingray is a beast.