Joye Ego Phenomenal Experience.

[Switched]

I apologize in advance for responding to this. But you are dead wrong.

Only partially.

A powered USB hub can provide 1000ma to a single device (if my memory of the USB spec is correct).

...that would be correct but the average user does not have that coming out from a single USB port. That has been discussed ad nauseum on here, by the electronic gurus

Regardless of that fact, I have a USB charger that provides a DC output of 4.2 volts @420ma. I have wall charger with an output of 4.2v @230ma.

Guess which charges faster? USB.

... and that doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out neither 420mA output shadows thw 230mA

I'm not pointing this out to be confrontational. However I am a systems engineer (read: electronics/computer systems) with 22 years experience. I hate misinformation being provided to people.

For those who are unaware, a "Stationary Engineer" is responsible for operation of boilers, gas turbines, and heat recovery steam generators. Hardly an expert in electronics.

You forgot the most important part "Marine" Engineer" as well and although not being an electronic expert per se, I do posses a working knowledge of both electricity and electronics.

However, I do want to sincerely thank Switched for his service to our country.

No need to thank me I served Canada.

 

[cozzicon]

Exactly. He keeps thinking I'm recharging my Joyegos from Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store. on a wall carger "screw-in" when instead it's on a USB connected to the WALL charger, NOT laptop or Pc.

It doesn't matter.

A USB port can supply at least 500ma to a device. If the output of the USB (Even plugged into a USB port) charger is 420ma (which the cignots are) and the wall charger is 230ma- the USB charger will still charge faster.

The only difference between a USB charger, and a wall charger, is the conversion from 100v AC to 4.2v DC. The USB can take the raw 5v from the USB and step it down with a resistor.

I just looked up the spec for a powered USB hub:

Draw Max 100ma (this would be to power the actual device), must supply 500ma to each port

And on a single port on a computer the spec is also 500ma.

So really- it doesn't matter if you are plugged into the computer or the wall with a USB adapter. 500ma is all that will be available.

 

[JollyRogers]

In honor of your old Avatar Switched

Honestly I can't believe this is still going on and on... Though the information disseminated regarding the fact that the eGo wall charger stays "red" and the USB portion of the charge goes "green" when the eGo battery has been fully charged is actually pretty good.

 

[Switched]

Exactly. He keeps thinking I'm recharging my Joyegos from Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store. on a wall carger "screw-in" when instead it's on a USB connected to the WALL charger, NOT laptop or Pc.

There is a wall adapter, the data has been provided above. It has a little itty bitty red light. That says I am working. There is a USB fast charger. The specs for that have also been provided above. That has a little itty bitty red light on it, that will turm green when your battery is charged. The battery d9oes screw into this adapter. When you do it will blink 10 times saying it is properly conected, and is being charged.

Whcih part of a 420mAh charger cannot charge a 650mAh battery in the time you described. 650mAh divided by 420 = 1.54 hrs theoretical when new (funny it seems those are Janty's claims as well, the designers). As a battery gets older and internal resistance increaes, your charge times will be much shorter as well as your duration. There your tuition has been paid for, go learn something.
Welcome to Battery University

He's just angry because he has a grudge with me. He has absolutely no respect for anyone here or to others experiencing and sharing information.

We are sharing information. Discrediting bad information can be construed as sharing information

 

[cozzicon]

Only partially.
You forgot the most important part "Marine" Engineer" as well and although not being an electronic expert per se, I do posses a working knowledge of both electricity and electronics.

If you had that working knowledge- you wouldn't even have replied.

I'm out.

 

[Mr.Self_Destruct]

I feel I have to reply one last time. I have not had any problems with any member on this forum. There have been opinions I have not agreed with. But everyone has a different opinion. I'm not looking to argue with you or cause trouble. I have not been trolling your posts. I have however been keeping an eye on this thread for further information. In case I would happen to owe you an apology. that is all. I have seen you trying to get a rise out of me in other threads, but I ignore your posts. I will be ignoring you in any other thread you try and refer to me or quote me.

I might not have taken the best approach to this thread, but jimho has. It seems to me you just ignore real facts and focus on what could make you sound right.

Yes that's my opinion and I'm entitled to have an opinion.

 

[LowThudd]

From wiki:

In Battery Charging Specification,[31] new powering modes are added to the USB specification. A host or hub Charging Downstream Port can supply a maximum of 1.5 A when communicating at low-bandwidth or full-bandwidth, a maximum of 900 mA when communicating at high-bandwidth, and as much current as the connector will safely handle when no communication is taking place; USB 2.0 standard-A connectors are rated at 1500 mA by default. A Dedicated Charging Port can supply a maximum of 1.8 A of current at 5.25 V. A portable device can draw up to 1.8 A from a Dedicated Charging Port. The Dedicated Charging Port shorts the D+ and D- pins with a resistance of at most 200Ω. The short disables data transfer, but allows devices to detect the Dedicated Charging Port and allows very simple, high current chargers to be manufactured. The increased current (faster, 9 W charging) will occur once both the host/hub and devices support the new charging specification.

So, it would make sense(possibly) to charge faster with the computer, assuming USB2 connection and circutry in the charger it's self to allow for it. But since you are charging from the wall this is irrevelent. The WALL charger supplied with the eGo is limited to 500ma. Problem solved. Mine takes two hours on the wall, and I haven't checked with my computer as I have no need to charge faster than 2 hrs.

 

[harpo]

From wiki:



So, it would make sense(possibly) to charge faster with the computer, assuming USB2 connection and circutry in the charger it's self to allow for it. But since you are charging from the wall this is irrevelent. The WALL charger supplied with the eGo is limited to 500ma. Problem solved. Mine takes two hours on the wall, and I haven't checked with my computer as I have no need to charge faster than 2 hrs.

It doesn't matter what the computer puts out because you still use the supplied usb charger rated at 4.2volts and 420mAh. This is all it can put out regardless of input to it.

 

[Switched]

If you had that working knowledge- you wouldn't even have replied.

I'm out.

Your the one who jumped into this post.

What myself and others have been saying if a charger has a maximum charging capacity or output of 420 milli amps per hour, what supplies it is a moot point. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that battery that has a capacity of 650 milli amps will take more than an hour to charge, when the supply to it is only 420.

If you read the entire thread, I presume you didn't. There was an initial claim that Mister living in Chicago has magic electrons that travel at the speed of light and charge a totally drained battery in 5 minutes. When he was called on it, he sratred to change his story. Then some one else has magical electrons, so Mr Chicago changes his story again. Don't worry by tomorrow morning the data will once again be changed to reflect the flavour of the day.

I am truly out of this nonsense. Peace Out.

 

[cozzicon]

I am truly out of this nonsense. Peace Out.

Me too... be well.

 

[Icey]

Your the one who jumped into this post.

What myself and others have been saying if a charger has a maximum charging capacity or output of 420 milli amps per hour, what supplies it is a moot point. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that battery that has a capacity of 650 milli amps will take more than an hour to charge, when the supply to it is only 420.

If you read the entire thread, I presume you didn't. There was an initial claim that Mister living in Chicago has magic electrons that travel at the speed of light and charge a totally drained battery in 5 minutes. When he was called on it, he sratred to change his story. Then some one else has magical electrons, so Mr Chicago changes his story again. Don't worry by tomorrow morning the data will once again be changed to reflect the flavour of the day.

I am truly out of this nonsense. Peace Out.

I see you like to act like this with new users and formal users on here too. Wonder what did the Marines did to you.

 

[Icey]

Oh yes, before this thread gets locked, here's the upclose on charger/usb link on video. Also, picture up close since the recording shined on the panel description:


Click on the top picture for video to be played:

 

[Vaporologist]

OMG! I LOOOOOVE Nutella!!!

 

[ejoker]

this thread has run its course.