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wisteelersfan

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scoobydoonut, funny how it seems people either love the light draw of the autos and manuals or hate them isn't it? All of us talking about blocking off holes and you go and open them up for a lighter draw. It's almost sacrilege. But I'll agree in a sense. I have one of the old batteries with the super tiny holes and I opened up one of them a bit and I like it more.

And as for you LK, no amount of restraint can curb my overactive imagination. I discovered a plethora of pics somewhere that's like a smoking fetish guys dream. I'd say where but I'm afraid all the extra traffic would kill the servers. And too many people would see all the reviews of products that make a certain blogger all "wigglehappy"(as Gribeau put it)and then the things would run out of stock even faster! LMAO AND NO I don't have a smoking fetish. Figured I better clear that up.
 
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People may have noticed I like messing with my batteries. Thought I'd share what I've done to make them perfect IMO. I love the shorty autos but they all seem to have too light a draw for my taste. My manual seemed to heat the atomizer a bit better, better vapor, but also too "airy". So in the end I took some some silicone gasket maker(good to 400 degrees) and filled one hole in the auto. Better, but what happens if I fill 2? After further review, 2 filled holes is exactly what I was looking for. The draw is almost identical to a well packed analog. The vapor is warmer(I'm assuming the restricted airflow keeps things from cooling as much). Vapor production is equal to my manual. Basically, it's perfect for me. I keep my manual as a back up, but my remaining autos(the ones that lived thru my extended alcohol bath and drill bit work) are amazing to me. Maybe the extra heat will kill a cart quicker. Big deal. I have plenty and they don't cost that much. A perfect draw, perfect size, and feel are worth the trade off to me. But now does this mean maybe a 5v is in my future to get the higher heat? We'll see. (Toothpicks are a simpler solution for the holes I understand. I just didn't have any. LOL)

It sounds like a perfect solution to my shorties, but is it safe to use this? Just nervous to inhale this stuff after it gets heated from the battery
 

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Well I'm assuming, since I'm not all sciencey, that once it's cured it really doesn't go anywhere. It can handle 400 degrees so I know the heat shouldn't be an issue. Otherwise, break out the JB Weld after you try it with the toothpicks first. I'm sure that stuff wouldn't be releasing any gasses or anyhting once it's cured.
 

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Well I'm assuming, since I'm not all sciencey, that once it's cured it really doesn't go anywhere. It can handle 400 degrees so I know the heat shouldn't be an issue. Otherwise, break out the JB Weld after you try it with the toothpicks first. I'm sure that stuff wouldn't be releasing any gasses or anyhting once it's cured.

Thanks a bunch wistleeler. I think I'll try JB weld.:)
 

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I have used this method and it works great ... But just a little info Id like to add ...I am leery of using anything with silicone in it (most gasket sealer/makers have silicone) as I have experience (as an x-auto tech) with this stuff...I was actually getting sick because I was smoking during and after using it and finally read the label one day ...after almost 20 years of using the stuff ...duh ...

anyway.. it tells you right on the label not to smoke around it/ with it on your hands ...it produces a toxic gas...there are some sealants that don't use silicone (because it damages modern automotive sensors) This stuff is labeled RTV Sealant ...Would feel a little better with this but prefer a non-toxic epoxy myself ...anything that says it can be used on potable(drinkable) water supply is the safest ... Just some (hopefully helpful) input...Don't want anyone getting sick and thinking it is from their PV
 

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http://www.permatex.com/documents/msds/01_USA-English/80008.pdf

Here's a quick link actually to the MSDS for the sealant I used. Not specifically RTV I guess, RTV is a pretty generic term really. But anyway, I think you'll see it's really pretty safe. ONCE IT'S CURED. The fumes that cause irritation are gone after it's cured. Also check out the exposure limits and stuff for what is actually in here. You'd pretty much have to try to ingest it to get enough in your body to cause a problem. My guess is that it's no worse than some of the other sealants, adhesives, flavorings, etc used in the carts/batteries.In fact here's a link to the msds for PG
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Propylene_glycol-9927239
Check and compare for yourself, but I don't think either of these show them as being any worse for us than most other things we come in contact with everyday.
I have used this method and it works great ... But just a little info Id like to add ...I am leery of using anything with silicone in it (most gasket sealer/makers have silicone) as I have experience (as an x-auto tech) with this stuff...I was actually getting sick because I was smoking during and after using it and finally read the label one day ...after almost 20 years of using the stuff ...duh ...

anyway.. it tells you right on the label not to smoke around it/ with it on your hands ...it produces a toxic gas...there are some sealants that don't use silicone (because it damages modern automotive sensors) This stuff is labeled RTV Sealant ...Would feel a little better with this but prefer a non-toxic epoxy myself ...anything that says it can be used on potable(drinkable) water supply is the safest ... Just some (hopefully helpful) input...Don't want anyone getting sick and thinking it is from their PV
 

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JB Weld is a bit more permanent. A potted epoxy of any kind would be, but is undeniably effective. I just soldered a little bead of lead-free silver solder in one of mine...


You have no idea how much I wish I lived closer to you..... Your neighbors moving out anytime soon?
 

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http://www.permatex.com/documents/msds/01_USA-English/80008.pdf

Here's a quick link actually to the MSDS for the sealant I used. Not specifically RTV I guess, RTV is a pretty generic term really. But anyway, I think you'll see it's really pretty safe. ONCE IT'S CURED. The fumes that cause irritation are gone after it's cured. Also check out the exposure limits and stuff for what is actually in here. You'd pretty much have to try to ingest it to get enough in your body to cause a problem. My guess is that it's no worse than some of the other sealants, adhesives, flavorings, etc used in the carts/batteries.In fact here's a link to the msds for PG
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Propylene_glycol-9927239
Check and compare for yourself, but I don't think either of these show them as being any worse for us than most other things we come in contact with everyday.

Thanks for the info wisteelersfan, Didn't mean to offend... the stuff you were using does not seem to be silicone based (The auto industry is generally moving away from those that are, due to the O2 sensor contamination issue) but I just wanted to let people know there are other POSSIBLY safer products that will work as well... no harm no foul
 
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