Just Got My Billow & Sigelei 150w Mod -- Sub-Ohm Question

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Whitechapel

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I really, really like running dual coil setups for my daily driver. But I also want to go sub-ohm with it. I was wondering if it would be possible to build like a .8 dual coil on the Billow? I'm asking because right now I'm using 28g wire and it takes forever to heat up. Or what route should I really be going for good sized clouds on the Billow?
 
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I really, really like running dual coil setups for my daily driver. But I also want to go sub-ohm with it. I was wondering if it would be possible to build like a .8 dual coil on the Billow? I'm asking because right now I'm using 28g wire and it takes forever to heat up. Or what route should I really be going for good sized clouds on the Billow?

I don't own a Billow... but isn't it designed for dual parallel coils?

If you want an optimized build for your rta, click the first and second sigline links below... with Steam Engine, you can build for an optimal "heat flux", "heat capacity" and a low "leg power loss".
The first reference is that actual coil radiant heat, expressed in milliwatts per millimeter of coil surface area... squared.
To have a better understanding of those values, the second sigline is a SE user guide.

For example, if you want about 1/3rd of your available 150 watts... your best build for a 300 mW/mm2 heat flux, with 54 watts would be:
A target of 0.8Ω net resistance using your desired 28 gauge Kanthal A1 wire (89.4mm length per wire - terminal to terminal), wrapped 10/9 on a 2.0mm mandrel with a total leg length of 10mm (4 X 2.5mm legs).

The result would be a 300 mW/mm2, 24 mJ/K and 11% leg loss. If you want to go with a higher wattage, I'd suggest using a thicker wire
 

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Your 28 ga takes too long to heat up? Really? That seems strange to me. Right now I'm vaping a Dual 1.0 ohm coil build on my tugboat for a 0.5 ohm final load, using 24 ga Kanthal, 10 wraps around the Largest post on my tobeco coil jig (not sure the exact size of the post yet). These coils are pretty hefty! They take almost a full 1 sec to start heating up on anything under 40W. At 50W its better but 60W, depending on the liquid I'm vaping, is almost too hot, then my dam dripper gets so hot I can't put it to my lips!! I think I need to redo them, but the flavor is pretty darn good! And nice, thick clouds!!

I was going to suggest using a Larger gauge wire, but if you think the 28 ga takes too long to heat, then I am not sure I'd be much help. Especially not owning a Billow. maybe you'll get a few more responses here...
 
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