Just got my startup order today, trying to get started.

[johnnydotexe]

2 x Joye eGo 650mAH batteries
1 x Joye eGo USB rapid charger
1 x Joye eGo USB passthrough
10 x Boge 510 softcap cartomizers
1 x Dekang Turkish Gold(Desert Ship) 10ml/16mg
1 x Dekang Cappuccino 10ml/16mg
1 x Dekang 555 10ml/16mg
1 x Dekang RY4 10ml/16mg

I watched a few videos on how to fill these boge cartos, I opted to do the "45degree angle drip" method. Filled two cartos so far, one with 24 drops of RY4 and the other with 24 drops of cappuccino.

I first tried the RY4-filled carto on the USB passthrough, I noticed that if I take more than a 3-4 second hit the mouth end strats to get really warm, and the throat hit is almost unbearable. It sort of tastes like burning sugar.

I then tried the cappuccino-filled carto on one of the 650mAH batteries. There's a lot less vapor and throat hit, probably because the battery needs to be charged, but I'm still noticing a distinct burning sugar taste.

Between the two so far, I have been unable to distinguish one flavor from the other as they both taste like "sugar vapor" to me. Not really sure if I'm doing something wrong...

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Let your cartos sit for about 15 minutes after you fill them to let the juice soak into the filler. Sometimes cartos need a couple of primer puffs to get going and try taking long, slow, gentle drags. If you try to suck at it like you're drinking a thick milkshake through a straw it just doesn't work right.

What are the PG/VG ratios of your juice? That can make a big difference in how much vapor you get.

Give your body some time to recover before writing off your juice. Your sense of smell and your taste buds are going to be off for a while. You might also want to let a couple of your juices sit for a couple of days and then try them again. Some juices need to steep to let the flavor develop.

 

[johnnydotexe]

Let your cartos sit for about 15 minutes after you fill them to let the juice soak into the filler. Sometimes cartos need a couple of primer puffs to get going and try taking long, slow, gentle drags. If you try to suck at it like you're drinking a thick milkshake through a straw it just doesn't work right.

Thanks, will make sure they're topped off and let them sit for a while.

I'm also taking "mouth drags" that last 4-5 seconds, making sure to hit the button about a second before I start. The drag is long and slow, afterwards I inhale the plume of vapor. Near the end of the toke, the vapor starts to actually burn my lips and the throat hit is really harsh.

What are the PG/VG ratios of your juice? That can make a big difference in how much vapor you get.

I'm not sure, all I know is that I got Dekang 10ml bottles in 16mg/high strength. The bottles don't seem to say the PG/VG content, nor do their descriptions on the product pages over at litecigusa where I placed my order.

It is my understanding that the PG/VG mix, or strictly VG, will result in a harder TH than just PG. Is that correct?

I'm also getting MUCH more vapor off the USB passthrough, if I'm correct this is due to two reasons...it produces more voltage than the batteries, and I'm using a battery fresh out of the package which means it's probably in dire need of a charge.

Give your body some time to recover before writing off your juice. Your sense of smell and your taste buds are going to be off for a while. You might also want to let a couple of your juices sit for a couple of days and then try them again. Some juices need to steep to let the flavor develop.

I figured it would take some time to adjust to this new device after smoking marlboro reds for 10 years, so I'll stick to it and see how it goes. My last smoke was an hour or two ago, hopefully this goes well!

Edit: Some more questions...

About how long do these boge 510 cartos typically last? I'm sure I'll be a constant-ish vaper, since I'm going to this from a pack or more of analogs a day.

Where could I find usage information on my Joyetech eGo rapid charger? I have a battery on it right now, and the light is red, flashes green every few minutes. No idea what the lights mean, didn't receive any instructions for any of this in my order. Reason for this is probably because I pieced together my own startup kit, rather than going with the eGo kit which comes with stuff I didn't want/need.

How long can I have a juiced carto sit? I was thinking about having a carto for each flavor I purchased, which means they'll be sitting around a lot with juice in them. Is this ok? And do they need to be stored in an upright position to avoid leaking?

 

[WomanOfHeart]

PG is going to give you more throat hit and VG is going to smooth out the juice and give you more vapor. Most people use a mix of the two. I use either a 50/50 mix or a 60PG/40VG mix because I'm not a big fan of strong throat hit and I like lots of vapor.

Your assumption about the PT having more voltage would be correct. It's more than likely 3.7V and your regular batteries are only 3.4 at best. Under load, those batteries are probably only putting out 3.2V. Once you get comfortable with vaping in general you might want to try some Boge 2.0Ohm cartos. Those work very well and provide a warmer, more dense vapor.

 

[dormouse]

RY4 does basically have the taste of burning sugar. It is caramel vanilla tobacco and ethol maltol (aka cotton candy flavoring i.e. burning sugar flavor) is probably used to sweeten it because ethol maltol is the usual sweetener for caramels.

Cappucino - no idea. Not a coffee drinker or vaper.

Don't judge all ejuices by Dekang Chinese juices. It's something to get you started. As soon as you can tell if you have the right level of nicotine, buy some juices elsewhere. FreedomSmokeUSA has lots of tobaccos. I like their Desert Ship (nutty and a bit pungent Turkish blend), some like their Purecig, they have a 555 (555 is a nutty tobacco) and lots of other tobaccos in the Tobaccos section. I tried their Switchblade briefly - seemed a bit like Desert Ship but a bit rougher - interesting. I generally get 70pg/30vg when offered. Some of their tobaccos are also available in the samples section in 24mg and fixed PG/VG.

Some good fixer-uppers for tobaccos that you can buy at FreedomSmokeUSA
Cocoa - this stuff cuts the sweetness and adds cocoa flavor and body to a tobacco. Many cigs have cocoa including Marlboro and my old fave Capris - I love cocoa in a tobacco
Chocolate - similar but not as strong and adds sweetness
Vanilla Tahity - adds a bit of sweetness and mellow vanilla and in general, vanillas are good at fixing flavors you don't like
oRYental 4 - I doubt you will want this but I like it - adds a light caramel sweetness - it's a type of RY4. FSUSA's normal RY4 is not sweet.
(Chocolate) Orange Ball - this can kick up a dark drab tobacco - both fills it out with the chocolate and adds bright interest of orange

They also sell some Flavourart additives I have not tried - one if for cutting sweetness and one for cutting bitterness (I think called Vape Wizard and Magic Mask)

Many passthroughs are a full 5v, not the 3.x volts of a battery. You might want to get a plastic or delrin drip tip and try using it on soft-cap stuffing type cartos. And for any kind of carto with condoms - you can cut a small circle out of the middle of the end of one condom, optionally cut the length a bit to make it easier on/off, and slide it on as a lip guard. I did that when I had a hot KR8 carto until I got a delrin drip tip. I don't actually drip with it into a carto - I think the juice would aim right for the air channel in the middle! But you can use it instead of the soft mouth-end cap on a stuffing-filled carto.

 

[johnnydotexe]

RY4 does basically have the taste of burning sugar. It is caramel vanilla tobacco and ethol maltol (aka cotton candy flavoring i.e. burning sugar flavor) is probably used to sweeten it because ethol maltol is the usual sweetener for caramels.

Cappucino - no idea. Not a coffee drinker or vaper.

Don't judge all ejuices by Dekang Chinese juices. It's something to get you started. As soon as you can tell if you have the right level of nicotine, buy some juices elsewhere. FreedomSmokeUSA has lots of tobaccos. I like their Desert Ship (nutty and a bit pungent Turkish blend), some like their Purecig, they have a 555 (555 is a nutty tobacco) and lots of other tobaccos in the Tobaccos section. I tried their Switchblade briefly - seemed a bit like Desert Ship but a bit rougher - interesting. I generally get 70pg/30vg when offered. Some of their tobaccos are also available in the samples section in 24mg and fixed PG/VG.

Some good fixer-uppers for tobaccos that you can buy at FreedomSmokeUSA
Cocoa - this stuff cuts the sweetness and adds cocoa flavor and body to a tobacco. Many cigs have cocoa including Marlboro and my old fave Capris - I love cocoa in a tobacco
Chocolate - similar but not as strong and adds sweetness
Vanilla Tahity - adds a bit of sweetness and mellow vanilla and in general, vanillas are good at fixing flavors you don't like
oRYental 4 - I doubt you will want this but I like it - adds a light caramel sweetness - it's a type of RY4. FSUSA's normal RY4 is not sweet.
(Chocolate) Orange Ball - this can kick up a dark drab tobacco - both fills it out with the chocolate and adds bright interest of orange

Thanks for the info, I'll definitely check out FSUSA and see what they've got to offer. LCU's prices on e-juices are what made me try those, but from the sounds of it...Dekang is more of an "entry-level / meh " type of flavor.

 

[swedishfish]

I agree regarding the chinese juice. Extremely harsh and smells burnt.

I haven't tried FSUSA but hear great things about them. Love Backwoods Brew and Nhalers juice. For the non-tobacco stuff I like Vapor Bomb. I usually get 70pv/30vg.

 

[johnnydotexe]

Does FSUSA also sell boge cartos, eGo cones, etc? I would like to get a set of the cones to spruce up the looks of my battery setups, and would also like to order my cartos/juices from the same place if possible.

 

[swedishfish]

My dream is to get everything in one place too but it doesn't seem to happen.

I got my kits and boge cartomizers from V4L, Liberty Flights and Cignot. Last time I needed cartomizers, Liberty Flights was out so I got them at Ikenvape.

If you want to spuce up for setup, get yourself a tank!

https://www.cignot.com/category_s/67.htm

 

[johnnydotexe]

My dream is to get everything in one place too but it doesn't seem to happen.

I got my kits and boge cartomizers from V4L, Liberty Flights and Cignot. Last time I needed cartomizers, Liberty Flights was out so I got them at Ikenvape.

If you want to spuce up for setup, get yourself a tank!

https://www.cignot.com/category_s/67.htm

Those tanks are pretty cool, I may have to try those out.

Off topic...but how do I edit my sig on this forum? Was wanting to add a tracking banner like yours.

 

[swedishfish]

I hope I'm telling this the right way-

Click on my banner, then go to that page and create a banner.

Then at the top of this forum, click settings. Then on the right, click edit signature. copy and paste the code into the signature box.

Hope that works!

 

[johnnydotexe]

I hope I'm telling this the right way-

Click on my banner, then go to that page and create a banner.

Then at the top of this forum, click settings. Then on the right, click edit signature. copy and paste the code into the signature box.

Hope that works!

I don't have an option in my settings to edit signature, that's the problem I'm having. Already have the banner made.

I wonder if I have to hit a certain number of posts in order to have a sig, or something like that.

 

[johnnydotexe]

Looks like I need 15 posts before I can use the sig feature.

Anyways, now that I've been vaping for a while I've noticed I don't have a craving for analogs. It's been about 6 hours since I've had one.

I don't yet have a preference between the 650mAH battery and the PT, but the PT definitely has a better/hotter TH.

As for the flavors, I've only tried the 555, RY4 and Cappuccino. The Cappuccino is the smoothest/lightest, it's ok but seems somewhat lacking. The 555 and the RY4 hit about the same, but the 555 kind of smells like a dead possum. I'm still not noticing their distinct flavors. Like a poster mentioned above, it's probably because these are the cheap Dekang liquids and I'm using them on new cartos.

My options for my next order are either FSUSA, their prices on cones and juices are more than LCU but the juices are better than dekang...or get the high caliber USA juices from LCU, plus cones and cartos all at the lower prices. What's the word on those high caliber juices, are they any good? I can get RY4 and 555 in that brand. and they're 50/50 mix from what I'm reading. Pretty sure I can also get 70/30 mixes too. This would be better for me because then I can continue ordering from one place, and be saving some money.

 

[johnnydotexe]

My options for my next order are either FSUSA, their prices on cones and juices are more than LCU but the juices are better than dekang...or get the high caliber USA juices from LCU, plus cones and cartos all at the lower prices. What's the word on those high caliber juices, are they any good? I can get RY4 and 555 in that brand. and they're 50/50 mix from what I'm reading. Pretty sure I can also get 70/30 mixes too. This would be better for me because then I can continue ordering from one place, and be saving some money.

Still trying to find out if the High Caliber e-juices from LCU are any good. I can get RY4 and 555 in a 70/30 mixture, but only in 10ml bottles. If I want 30ml, my options at LCU are either Dekang(unknown mixture) or Americano(50/50). I'm not completely closed-minded to ordering with FSUSA, but if these HC e-juices are good then I can continue ordering everything I need from one place rather than two.

Also wondering if it's a good idea to switch to the boge LR cartos, will I have any problems with them on my 650mAH eGo batteries or my eGo PT? Will I have any problems with them on one of those 1000mAH eGo batteries(thinking about grabbing a pair of these bats)? I've heard of some people wrecking their batteries, or their cartos, by using the LR cartos on eGo gear...I'd hate to wreck my new stuff.

ETA: FSUSA only offers RY4 and 555 in 50/50 mixtures. Is that a good mixture? I'd be looking at $15 per 30ml bottle though them, its a little more than LCU's prices but not terrible, especially since these e-juices seem rather popular.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

FSUSA is one of these best vendors in juice, quality and service, imo. They also offer a standard 10% off all orders. The code is listed on their home page towards the bottom.

ps just looked it up it is freedomsmokeusa


website is http://freedomsmokeusa.com/

 

[johnnydotexe]

That's who I'm currently checking out, but it seems they only offer RY4 and 555 in 50/50 mixture when 70/30 seems to be more popular. Is 50/50 generally acceptable? Decent TH and vapor? Didn't know about the 10% off, thanks for that info.

Would anyone happen to know if the High Caliber and Americano e-juices from litecigusa are any good? HC comes in 70/30 10ml bottles, Americano comes in 50/50 30ml bottles, their prices are a bit less than FSUSA and I have the luxury of being able to order all my other supplies from here like my boge cartos which FSUSA does not sell.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Usually when FSUSA only offers 50/50 on their juices it means they have formulated it themselves(orig creations) and won't change the mixture of pg/vg because it would change the taste. the ones you can choose on have a drop down box for selection of pg/vg/ Hope that helps. Also a lot of us only order ejuice made in usa because they use only regulated ingredients i.e such as USP pg and vg. Chinese juices are not regulated and we really don't know what is in them. Just a thought.

 

[johnnydotexe]

Thanks, I think I may go ahead and order a 30ml bottle of RY4 and 555 and give those a try. I'm not really a fan of the 10ml Dekangs I ordered with my new eGo gear, they all kinda taste the same with TH being the only immediate difference between them...and the Dekang 555 kinda smells like a dead animal, honestly.

I was also wanting to know what the general consensus is on using the Boge softcap LR cartomizers on eGo 650 & 1000mAH batteries...is it recommended? I'm using the regular Boge softcap cartos now, no complaints so far. I may give the clear fluxomizers a try soon, as well...you can get them in different ohm ranges which is pretty neat. I'm just not sure what ohms I should be aiming for with my setup, afraid I'll toast the attys or my batts.

ETA: Just placed an order with FSUSA for...

1 x 555 Tobacco Pre-mixed Specialty
- Extra Flavoring: None
- Flavor: Tobacco
- Milliliters: 30
- Nicotine: 24mg
- pg/vg: 50%pg50%vg $15.00

1 x RY4 Pre-mixed Specialty
- Extra Flavoring: None
- Milliliters: 30
- Nicotine: 24mg
- pg/vg: 50%pg50%vg

Saved $3 with that coupon code, thanks for letting me know about that...would have never seen it there otherwise.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I use the clearomizers/fluxomizers---same thing. For the ego probably in 3ohm range. I have some in 2.8-3. and some in 3.0-3.2. Both work fine for me. There is a small learning curve with those so if/when you are ready to try them let us know. The Boge softcap LR cartos are ok. I prefer to use no lower than 2ohm. 2.5 - 3.2 are good also. The lr 1.5 will fry your attys quick and burn much hotter. They also reduce battery time.

sas

 

[johnnydotexe]

What kind of learning curve do I face with the fluxomizers? I was going to wait until my 2 x 5packs of the boges are gone, or a friend decides to give this stuff a try(i'd give him my boges) to order the fluxomizers. Do they last longer than the boges?