just got the 510, new to ecigs

[johnm0123]

sup yall i just got a 510 starter pack, my first e-cigarrette, and have some questions

it came with 2 batteries, 2 atties, and 5 filled cartridges

i also got a 3 pack of blank cartridges with pyramid tea bags (all this from cignot)

some eliquid (from jantyusa) is on the way in the mail. my first question is to fill those blank cartridges do i just drip some eliquid in?

the cartridges that came with it taste like ****, they taste kinda metallic and there really harsh. is it just how the new cartridges are and this will this be fixed with the eliquid?

im getting a bit of a hacking cough on just my second day of smoking ecigs i did a search on this here and it looks like its not a big deal and goes away, but just for reassurance anyone else have this?

atomizers. do i need to stock up on 2-3 more? i read someones post on cleaning them in alcohol, do i have to do this? what other general maintence should i no?

and just to tell yall veterans a newbies perspective, these things are really awesome, i mean i do have some things to clear up, but i have not craved a cigarette all day. if the learning curve wasnt so high(not that i mind, but people are lazy lol), it would catch on like crazy, maybe yall just need a marketing team to get hot chicks to advertize ecigs or tell everyone its the latest craze in europe .

thanks for reading this and dealing with a newbies questions and helping me transition to ecigs

and yes i read that 5 part post, it was very helpful

 

[Data4]

I don't have a 510 yet so I don't want to give any half-cocked advice about refilling the carts or anything, but the metallic taste you're experiencing could be the primer on the atomizer. Of course, carts that come in starter kits aren't known for tasting anything remotely resembling good, but I've never had them taste metallic with the exception of use on a new atomizer before the primer is burned off.

 

[laidbak101]

Well to start new atty tends to be kinda harsh because of the primer that is put on it. Harshness can also relate to how much nicotine the liquid has in it. The metallic taste can be either the new atty being broke in or not enough liquid getting to the atty all together..

Blow it out real good into a paper towel and then drip some new good liquid (about 4-5 drops) onto the wick.. That should help it out a little but just use it for a couple days and it should taste better..

 

[ShinKun]

2 weeks in TIJME

I got my 510 atty from IV and found them to be fine right out of the box., Then I read about cleaning your attys in vodka to get rid of the primer. I had just received some new attys from H-g so, I thought it was a good time to try it out. I dropped my IV and my H-G attys in vodka. After drying them I also flooded them(I think) with 7 drops of e-liquid then blew them out form the battery end.

Tonight I just got around to trying out one of the H-G attys. It does seem bit more harsh and primer-y but less so then the uncleaned IV atty. After a couple rounds it was almost keeping up with my seasoned IV atty.

Next time I will soak them for an hour or more instead of half an hour. And try 2 rounds of flooding.

 

[Kent C]

sup yall i just got a 510 starter pack, my first e-cigarrette, and have some questions

it came with 2 batteries, 2 atties, and 5 filled cartridges

i also got a 3 pack of blank cartridges with pyramid tea bags (all this from cignot)

some eliquid (from jantyusa) is on the way in the mail. my first question is to fill those blank cartridges do i just drip some eliquid in?

the cartridges that came with it taste like ****, they taste kinda metallic and there really harsh. is it just how the new cartridges are and this will this be fixed with the eliquid?

im getting a bit of a hacking cough on just my second day of smoking ecigs i did a search on this here and it looks like its not a big deal and goes away, but just for reassurance anyone else have this?

atomizers. do i need to stock up on 2-3 more? i read someones post on cleaning them in alcohol, do i have to do this? what other general maintence should i no?

and just to tell yall veterans a newbies perspective, these things are really awesome, i mean i do have some things to clear up, but i have not craved a cigarette all day. if the learning curve wasnt so high(not that i mind, but people are lazy lol), it would catch on like crazy, maybe yall just need a marketing team to get hot chicks to advertize ecigs or tell everyone its the latest craze in europe .

thanks for reading this and dealing with a newbies questions and helping me transition to ecigs

and yes i read that 5 part post, it was very helpful

Metal taste is either primer/shipping fluid. You can puff through it or like the ShinKun says use vodka (not isopropal). Soak for 15 minutes in glass, blow out with the mouth at both ends into a paper towel, let dry, then a fire it up.

The hacking might be from the primer - it's not dangerous, just a pure PG that doesn't taste good. Puff it out if you don't clean it or if there is still some after cleaning - and don't do anything else to the atomizer.

The hacking is rather common - you're lungs will be cleaning themselves up for a few weeks. Got better for me after that. Taste/smell came back at around 3-4 weeks. Lighter chest after a month and a half and no morning cough for me anyway. Never thought it took much of a toll on me physically but I don't get as bushed doing yard work, etc.

With the possibility of a ban you can't have enough atomizers and having extras around at first can be good. I rotate them every week by doing a cleaning - again vodka only for an hour, blow out, dry, put a few drops of juice on the atty bridge and ziplock, bleeding the air. Dry attys die. Run the others for a week or so and then switch out. Save up for a bulk buy of attys.... and juice, if you're going to stay with this.

 

[ShinKun]

Hey Kent C!
How many drops do you put in once the the atty has been cleaned and dried? I'm still having difficulty discerning the too dry from the flooded.

You are also saying to moisten the attys then seal in a ziplock? Interesting!

Glad to hear that the primer taste is just PG although, that's the first reference I've seen to it being PG... how did you figure it out?

Thanks for the tips!

 

[Snarkyone]

I don't think it's related to PG, I have vaped straight PG and it didn't taste like the coating they put on the atomizers to protect them during shipping. Follow the advice given and you will enjoy your 510 in no time. It takes a day or so of seasoning to get it up to par. I would advice looking into a m401 like the Dragon if you still don't like the taste, I prefer the taste I get from those to the one I get from my 510.

 

[Hellen A. Handbasket]

Bad taste/harshness is usually user error.

New 510 attys need 2 or 3 drops added (lately, I haven't noticed any bad primer tastes from any of my new attys).

Cleaned 510 attys: Add 3-4 drops and let them sit for 15 minutes to soak a bit. Blow down into the atomizer to distribute the liquid over the bridge and into the atomizer pot (without hitting the battery button).

You need to put extra liquid on the atty bridge of the 510 each time you refill your cartridge (I just add one drop each time).

You'll never get a burned harsh taste if you do all of this. Scorching the wick/bridge material is how the atty is ruined with the bad taste. You can usually get rid of it by soaking in EverClear alcohol (don't use ISO alcohol).

 

[johnm0123]

thanks for the replies the problems went away when i cleaned them

 

[PKnowler63]

I love my 510. It gives awesome vapor. I'm sure you'll like yours too.

 

[johnm0123]

what about filling the cartridges that came iwht a pyramid tea bag filling?

 

[ProtestThe Hero]

I've been having the same issue with nasty taste and harshness. I took the advice mentioned in the earlier post and soaked my atty's in vodka for about half an hour to 45min, dried them out, blew out and liquid in there, and started puffing again. The nasty taste is now gone and it is considerably less harsh than it was before. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Kurt]

Lots of factors affect an initiates experience with a 510. the atty will have a primer that is nasty, as was said. A vodka bath for 15 min, then blow it out through the screw end into a paper towel, then dry overnight standing straight up on a paper towel. You will know any lingering water/alcohol is still present when you vape as the vapor will expand a lot into your mouth with much bubbling sound...this is water/alcohol boiling at a lower temp than PG or VG.

Or you can force the atty to straighten up and fly right by doing about 20 strong mouth-pulls through an empty cart, no batting. This essentially burns off the primer, but don't inhale!

Filling carts in a 510 is a little tricky initially. Ideal method: I use the straw mod, and fill with a syringe stuck down in the straw, or you can just stick it down the side of the filler until it is at the bottom. This way the cart fills from the bottom up. But if you don't have a syringe, dripping slowly into the cart until it is all soaked in (a tiny screw driver is perfect for working it around to get air bubbles out), then top it off until the surface is shiny and concave, like a little bowl, not convex like a water droplet. then attach to atty and vape away.

Give yourself time to experiment and find what works best for you and your dragging style. A flooded atty that has too much liquid will gurgle and not make vapor. A perfect system will draw silently with lots of vapor. I highly recommend the straw mod (easy, look it up in the search, just need coffee stirrer straw and scissors), as it helps the juice to cycle through the cart rather than just be used in the first few mm. If all is correct, if you take off the cart after vaping a while, it should have the filler sort of convex inward, since this is the indentation of the atty heading element. Flooded attys need to have the fluid soaked out with a rolled up paper towel...just vaping on it will often not help. But sometimes if it is gurgling, just making sure the LED end is pointing up some, like > horizontal, will make hot juice flow away from the atty and into the cart. It is the heat that makes the juice flow, so use it to get the juice away or towards the atty, depending on the need at the moment.

After a while, you will get a slightly burned taste from the vapor. This means time to add more juice. Just add until the surface is shiny, no air bubbles, and convex.

I don't drip a lot, but for the 510 I find two drops directly onto the atty heating bridge, then vaping with an EMPTY cart (a filled one will make it flood), is a great way to test mixes you make.

Have fun and smooth vaping!

Kurt

 

[Kent C]

Hey Kent C!
How many drops do you put in once the the atty has been cleaned and dried? I'm still having difficulty discerning the too dry from the flooded.

You are also saying to moisten the attys then seal in a ziplock? Interesting!

Glad to hear that the primer taste is just PG although, that's the first reference I've seen to it being PG... how did you figure it out?

Thanks for the tips!

When cleaning for rotating - ie. an hour or so... soak in 151, blow out, dry... I put 3 drops of unflavored PG on the bridge/metal mesh of the atty, then put in a ziplock squeezing out the air.

3 vendors, 2 who have been to the Joye plant, are the ones that told me that the shipping/primer fluid is PG. It's been mentioned before in ealier postings. Helen mentioned it recently too.

 

[Kent C]

what about filling the cartridges that came iwht a pyramid tea bag filling?

Try this first:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/11421-cart-mod-better-refilling.html


Use a johnson safety swab Qtip shaft for the 'straw'. Put it on the rounded edge along the wall of the cartridge. As well as cutting the diagonal on the bottom, I also cut a smaller angled (20 degrees) diagonal on the top, just to keep it off an atomizer bridge that might not be exactly centered. Keep the top of the tube 1/16 below the top of the cart.


Try that first. I don't use PTB - early experiments leaked and dryed out. It doesn't wick, it holds juice. The best idea that I've seen is the 2nd video down here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartridge-mods/34401-ptb-plug-full-510-cart.html#post527318

... where the folds at the top will hold juice around the atty bridge.

 

[ShinKun]

Cool! Good to know it is just PG and not some other weirdness.

3 vendors, 2 who have been to the Joye plant, are the ones that told me that the shipping/primer fluid is PG. It's been mentioned before in ealier postings. Helen mentioned it recently too.