Just how addictive are E-cigs?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Alto101

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Apr 19, 2012
216
399
46
North Carolina
Very addictive, I use mine way too much.

Recent studies have been saying the opposite - e-cigarettes are about as addictive as nicotine gum which is generally far less addictive than cigarettes. I believe most people here are far less addicted to e-cigarettes than they were to traditional cigarettes but maybe you are different.
 

anonymous1337

New Member
Dec 24, 2014
3
5
'Murica
Recent studies have been saying the opposite - e-cigarettes are about as addictive as nicotine gum which is generally far less addictive than cigarettes. I believe most people here are far less addicted to e-cigarettes than they were to traditional cigarettes but maybe you are different.

I haven't bought an E-Cig yet but I tried nicotine gum a couple times recently and I wasn't hooked, I felt no cravings at all. So I guess I should be fine with e-cigs if they are as addictive as nicotine gum.
 

rolygate

Vaping Master
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 24, 2009
8,354
12,405
ECF Towers
It's a bit pointless trying to decide 'how addictive' ecigs are when many smokers or ex-smokers need nicotine and it's impossible to differentiate between needing a nic hit and needing a vape - they are the same thing. Now if you want to measure how 'addictive' ecigs are for never-smokers, then that is a better test. The answer is: it is impossible to create nicotine dependency in clinical trials without tobacco, so ecigs can't be 'addictive'.

If you ran a clinical trial of ecigs for dependency potential, with the usual 30 or 40 subjects, and if they were all never-smokers, then you would get a result of zero. No one would be dependent on ecigs by the end of the trial. If you had 100,000 subjects then you'd get a few. So it's not impossible given enough people, but the resulting numbers will be invisible statistically.

It's proven impossible to create any nicotine dependency at all in clinical trials. That is to say, if you take a bunch of people who have never consumed tobacco, and then give them nicotine daily for 6 months, none of them become dependent (none get cravings, or withdrawal symptoms, or take up smoking, etc.) You can't create nicotine dependence without tobacco. The MAOIs and possibly the WTAs in tobacco cause the synergy that creates dependence on nicotine.

Ecigs are highly effective for nicotine reduction because vapers routinely reduce the amount they consume, over time. Ask any 2-year vaper how ecigs compare with tobacco cigs for addiction and you'll be told there's no comparison. If a smoker goes out of the house for an hour or two and forgets their cigs and lighter there's a panic; if a 2-year vaper forgets their ecig they just shrug their shoulders and wait till they get back home for a vape. If a vaper finds themselves in hospital for a couple of days without their vape gear it's not really a problem; but as a smoker they wouldn't be able to think of anything else while in there.
 

ronnbert

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 7, 2014
714
1,235
Sawmills, NC, USA
It's a bit pointless trying to decide 'how addictive' ecigs are when many smokers or ex-smokers need nicotine and it's impossible to differentiate between needing a nic hit and needing a vape - they are the same thing. Now if you want to measure how 'addictive' ecigs are for never-smokers, then that is a better test. The answer is: it is impossible to create nicotine dependency in clinical trials without tobacco, so ecigs can't be 'addictive'.

If you ran a clinical trial of ecigs for dependency potential, with the usual 30 or 40 subjects, and if they were all never-smokers, then you would get a result of zero. No one would be dependent on ecigs by the end of the trial. If you had 100,000 subjects then you'd get a few. So it's not impossible given enough people, but the resulting numbers will be invisible statistically.

It's proven impossible to create any nicotine dependency at all in clinical trials. That is to say, if you take a bunch of people who have never consumed tobacco, and then give them nicotine daily for 6 months, none of them become dependent (none get cravings, or withdrawal symptoms, or take up smoking, etc.) You can't create nicotine dependence without tobacco. The MAOIs and possibly the WTAs in tobacco cause the synergy that creates dependence on nicotine.

Ecigs are highly effective for nicotine reduction because vapers routinely reduce the amount they consume, over time. Ask any 2-year vaper how ecigs compare with tobacco cigs for addiction and you'll be told there's no comparison. If a smoker goes out of the house for an hour or two and forgets their cigs and lighter there's a panic; if a 2-year vaper forgets their ecig they just shrug their shoulders and wait till they get back home for a vape. If a vaper finds themselves in hospital for a couple of days without their vape gear it's not really a problem; but as a smoker they wouldn't be able to think of anything else while in there.
I can confirm this, even though I have only been smober almost 7 months. I have had the flu since Saturday, and completely went without vaping til Wednesday.

With a sore throat, vaping just exaserbated the situation, even with max VG to minimize throat hit. So I just decided not to vape. If I was still a smoker, I would be stepping outside every hour to light one up, no matter if it hurt my throat or not. I have been able to do without much easier than if I was still a smoker.

Now I have started to vape a bit more as I improve (mostly menthol juices), but only very infrequently, since I am still on the mend.
 

Maiar

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 29, 2014
1,402
1,128
41
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Vaping is only as addictive as the amount of nicotine that's in your juice in regards to physical dependence. And only as addictive as you let it become in regards to flavor and the actual act of vaping itself.

And nicotine is more addictive than caffeine. I wouldn't start on nicotine if you haven't. I can go days without coffee with no real side effects. I've gone days without nicotine trying to quit before, it's a whole different story.
 

Mogar

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 18, 2014
301
357
Dallas TX
My wife has never smoked analogs, she picked up a ecig and liked the flavor with zero nic. (I made the juice myself so I am sure of the amount) after 4 months the mod went MIA and she actually had physical signs of withdrawal. This is a psychological symptoms (sometimes called Oral infatuation) and is very real. You can get addicted to something that has no ability to get you addicted. This is the same with a habitual smoker of a different substance legal in a few states. There is no addictive substance, but you can still get a mental hook on it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread