Just my 2c

[Worzel]

Have we ever thought about fighting the naysayers with reverse psychology? I work at a bar/ restaurant that allows the patrons to vape. I still go outside, vape in the cooler, or in the bathroom, never inside where customers see me. When I am outside, I have many, MANY people asking me why I am outside, and I tell them I go out of courtesy. I get strange looks when I say that, and usually the response to that is "It isn't smoke!" But I fire back, "It still is to nonsmokers!" If enough vapers follow the smoking bans, yet complain about standing next to smokers, it may get people thinking. Just sayin'.

 

[navigator2011]

Have we ever thought about fighting the naysayers with reverse psychology? I work at a bar/ restaurant that allows the patrons to vape. I still go outside, vape in the cooler, or in the bathroom, never inside where customers see me. When I am outside, I have many, MANY people asking me why I am outside, and I tell them I go out of courtesy. I get strange looks when I say that, and usually the response to that is "It isn't smoke!" But I fire back, "It still is to nonsmokers!" If enough vapers follow the smoking bans, yet complain about standing next to smokers, it may get people thinking. Just sayin'.

Ah, you used the word "courtesy," don’t hear that a lot any more. Courtesy, . . . "excellence of manners or social conduct; polite behavior." Kind of like an opposite of arrogance and belligerence, no? Putting the vaping issue aside, if courtesy was prevalent today, things would be very different in many areas of society.

 

[Worzel]

Heh heh, what I was saying, in a nutshell, you attract more ANTZ with honey, than with vinegar.

 

[hazarada]

That is not reverse psychology. Instead, if you switched back to tobacco and claimed it to be much healthier than the alternative, that would be reverse psychology. All though, i suspect the only one affected by it would be just you..

 

[navigator2011]

Heh heh, what I was saying, in a nutshell, you attract more ANTZ with honey, than with vinegar.

Perhaps. I just miss the days when excellent social conduct was a priority for more people.

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

Granted, not too many vapors around here but the ones I see pretty much do that. At the very least, they're off to the side somewhere doing it discreetly.

As far as bars, or any other indoor establishment I've gone into there is technically no published e-cig ban/policy in place. Probably because it just hasn't come up yet or proprietors don't know how to deal with it. That said, I choose to vape under the radar wherever I go simply to keep it that way for as long as possible. No sense in inviting trouble.

 

[Worzel]

Post#4-Or when people are sitting inside, puffing away, and I am sitting outside, like I am still doing something bad? Seems pretty backwards to me

 

[meanckz]

Ah, you used the word "courtesy," don’t hear that a lot any more. Courtesy, . . . "excellence of manners or social conduct; polite behavior." Kind of like an opposite of arrogance and belligerence, no? Putting the vaping issue aside, if courtesy was prevalent today, things would be very different in many areas of society.

nah....simply because politicians aren't

 

[Bramble]

Have we ever thought about fighting the naysayers with reverse psychology? I work at a bar/ restaurant that allows the patrons to vape. I still go outside, vape in the cooler, or in the bathroom, never inside where customers see me. When I am outside, I have many, MANY people asking me why I am outside, and I tell them I go out of courtesy. I get strange looks when I say that, and usually the response to that is "It isn't smoke!" But I fire back, "It still is to nonsmokers!" If enough vapers follow the smoking bans, yet complain about standing next to smokers, it may get people thinking. Just sayin'.

In Utah the ban didn't come from "the people" in the first place. There was no outcry in the public about eCigs by anything close to a majority or even "lots of people complaining." You had a few who "didn't like the looks of it" but the anti-smoking groups and media took over and lied to everyone... NOW all of a sudden people are saying "Oh my that's dangerous, I don't want that around me."

My own mom was delighted when I quit tobacco and started vaping. Then there was a series of junk science articles and propaganda for the support of bans that are currently under consideration. Now she says "Oh that's poison, you shouldn't do it. There was a big writeup in the paper saying so." Others have now seen the recent and nonsensical regulations in the UK and use it to justify more of the same everywhere. "BUT THEY DO THIS IN THE UK, THEY MUST KNOW!!"

The dangers of groupthink.

Very few people in the public are actually thinking, the anti's can't even make up their minds whether they don't know anything about it or whether it's deadly. They can't decide if the hate smoking because it smells, or if they hate vaping because it doesn't smell. People might feel bad for you if you're having to go outside as a vaper, but it doesn't matter enough to them to say or do anything about it.

 

[edyle]

I definitely ain't smokin whatever yo bin smokin man!

 

[meanckz]

Ah, you used the word "courtesy," don’t hear that a lot any more. Courtesy, . . . "excellence of manners or social conduct; polite behavior." Kind of like an opposite of arrogance and belligerence, no? Putting the vaping issue aside, if courtesy was prevalent today, things would be very different in many areas of society.

however, battles and wars have not been won by being polite and courteous.... ?