Just received my new E cig and I am now in trouble

[ancient11]

I finally settled on the Volcano magma tank starter kit, I really love it. I charged the batteries and filled the tank then took a toke. I could not believe the amount of vapor and the throat hit I got from it. This thing is much smaller than I ever imagined it would be. It is the size of a regular cigarette – unbelievable. The M pack is unbelievable.


I am really happy with the magma and I am really enjoying it – but now for the trouble!


I also ordered a Lava Tube with the Tube Tank and that is where my troubles begin. I filled it up and put about 10 drops very carefully on the side of the Addy to prime it and then sealed it, then took four long draws with the unit off. Then hit the fire button and took a long toke – some vapor came out around the bottom of the tank but no vapor coming to me. Scratched head, primed a little more – it gurgled and gave me a little vapor but my magma gives 20 times as much vapor plus I feel like I got a little juice in my mouth also but i could have got some on the drip tip.


I welcome all hints, criticism – really anything to get me going with this thing. I am really inexperienced and need help badly!
Thank you so much
ancient

 

[frosting]

Blow out the atty a little. It sounds like you flooded it. Give that a try and see if it helps! Good luck.


The batteries are charged too, right? Hey ya never know!

 

[ambeck22]

I started with the Magma and upped to the Inferno, giving the Magma to my bf. Write to Volcano on their Facebook page or their site. They are GREAT with answering quickly and if the device is broke, they'll replace it. I have a Volcano kiosk in the mall, so I can take my things there, but I've heard/read good things about their customer service. I don't have the Lava Tube yet, so, unfortunately, I can't be of any help. I do know that they really helped me get started with my Inferno.

 

[LucentShadow]

Hi. FYI, the Tube Tank seems to be identical to the SmokTech DCT. My experience lies with that. Anyway, the instructions they give seem about right:

The Official Volcano E-Cigs Forum • TubeTanks are up for sale and Filling instructions : New and Upcoming Products

Important points:

- The cartomizer needs to be at least reasonably filled before use, along with the tank outside of it. I always completely fill the carto.

- I've only had to take one normal pull on it to get it wicking, before vaping.

- If you use a thick liquid (high VG,) you may need to thin it with DW or PGA, or widen the hole in the carto a bit.

 

[ancient11]

Blow out the atty a little. It sounds like you flooded it. Give that a try and see if it helps! Good luck.


The batteries are charged too, right? Hey ya never know!

I am recharging the batteries again just to make sure and i did blow it out so we will have to wait until the battery turns green again. I also got a drip out fit with it, it works good -- well if the operator could figure out how to do it properly that is. I will get back to you as soon and that battery charges up and thank you very much for the reply.

 

[ancient11]

I started with the Magma and upped to the Inferno, giving the Magma to my bf. Write to Volcano on their Facebook page or their site. They are GREAT with answering quickly and if the device is broke, they'll replace it. I have a Volcano kiosk in the mall, so I can take my things there, but I've heard/read good things about their customer service. I don't have the Lava Tube yet, so, unfortunately, I can't be of any help. I do know that they really helped me get started with my Inferno.

the reason i got the magma is that I wanted something small that I could travel with but darned if they aren't good, they are good enough to keep full-time if it were not for the short battery life. I knew that i wanted to get a mod to use around my computer but i did not know which one at a time i was looking at the provari, the buzz and a few others wheN I saw this one and decided why not. I think I really like it so far. anyway, i am certain that the only thing wrong is the operator and that is whY I felt someone here could educate me. thanks so much for the reply
ancient

 

[ancient11]

Hi. FYI, the Tube Tank seems to be identical to the SmokTech DCT. My experience lies with that. Anyway, the instructions they give seem about right:

The Official Volcano E-Cigs Forum • TubeTanks are up for sale and Filling instructions : New and Upcoming Products

Important points:

- The cartomizer needs to be at least reasonably filled before use, along with the tank outside of it. I always completely fill the carto.

- I've only had to take one normal pull on it to get it wicking, before vaping.

- If you use a thick liquid (high VG,) you may need to thin it with DW or PGA, or widen the hole in the carto a bit.

I honestly feel that that may be what is wrong. when i ordered my liquid i did not know exactly what to order so i went 50-50 and my liquid is real thick. i have absolutely no idea what DW or pGA is?

 

[LucentShadow]

Whoops, I thought DW was one of the keywords on the forum. If you hover the mouse over the lightly underlined abbreviations, they will be explained.

Anyway, DW = distilled water. That's what I use to thin my VG juices. If it's a pre-mixed juice, then it will lower the nic strength a bit, but not too much. Best to try it in a sample amount in another bottle, carefully adding 1-2 drops at a time, shaking it up, and checking how it flows in the bottle, until you get the hang of it.

Some people like to use PGA (pure grain alcohol,) and I'd bet it's very effective, but I really don't like the idea or sensation of vaping alcohol, personally.

 

[ancient11]

OK, now I have had tried a few things. If I prime it,then it will give me a few light hits but hardly any vapor.

 

[imsoenthused]

PGA makes for more throat hit in the finished juice. Many people use it to thin out VG liquids because one of the most common complaints about VG is its lack of TH compared to PG juices, and it can help to offset that a bit.

 

[jamentertainment]

Did you fill the carto, the carto is not like an atty.. that is most likely a dual coil and will hold over 30 drops. It has to be filled first, put a few drops at a time by dripping along the inside wall and spinning it, try not to get it in the center hole, then put it in the tank, then you can fill the tank..

 

[ancient11]

I want to thank everyone here for trying to help me. I just want to let everyone know how much i appreciate the help.
Before i filled the tank, i dripped along the outside until the filling started looking wet and when it looked like it would not absorb any more, I then filled the tank. It is a single coil low resistance.
I think a bigger hole is needed.
I have another tank but it is bigger. It too has the same small, tiny hole in it. My dremel is in storage but I have a small drill---hmmmmmm I wonder---should I?

 

[LucentShadow]

Drill may catch the stuffing. If you have a small, pointed screw, you can kind of auger it open a bit wider. It's pretty dicey, though. You don't want it very much bigger, or it will leak. With mostly PG liquid, the hole can be small. Thicker VG liquids need a slightly bigger hole sometimes.

Some people punch another hole opposite the existing one for best results. I'd recommend running a search on the forums and youtube for 'punching cartos' or 'how to punch a cartomizer'.

Other people use a dremel cutoff wheel and cut a horizontal slot...

 

[ancient11]

well, i am now vaping like a pro – I put the other tank on – smile. lots of vapor and a real strong throat hit. I lowered the voltage and i am one happy camper – snicker! I don't know what to do with the other tank, whether i damaged it or not-i have no idea. Any suggestions would be appreciated, but now I can wait while I am vaping--smile.

 

[LucentShadow]

Great to hear. I would hazard a guess that you may have burnt the filling on the first carto by not getting enough liquid down to the coils. That will effectively kill the carto.

I probably learned more by investigating my own failures early on, than by just researching online. If it seems dead, I'd recommend ripping the guts out of it in one piece. I use needle nose pliers. After the wire snaps, the filling will slide out. At that point, you can see the saturation of the filler. If the bottom is dry, then you probably didn't fill it enough.

You can then unroll the batting. The coil will be near the center of the roll, with a wick that is rolled into the batting. If the batting melted near the coil, it will be obvious. I keep the tubes and connectors for possible future use and/or recycling.

Keep in mind that the cartomizers for those tanks will need to be replaced probably at least once a week, so you should keep some on hand.

 

[ancient11]

Lucent shadow
You will never know how much it is meant to me that you have stayed with me through this. I really owe you one! In fact, I really want to thank everyone that has helped me with this.
I have really gotten ahead of myself in the products that I have ordered and have not concentrated on backing up the items that I use. I thought the Cartomizers would last at least a month and I have neglected to buy any spares. I went to the page and they give two types and I really don't know which one to buy. One is a dual coil and the other is a single coil.

 

[sailorman]

Ancient11, LavaTubes are known not to work all that well with Low Resistance Cartos under 2.5ohms. You should stick to single coil cartos from 2.5 to 3.2 ohms. If you want to sqeeze out the last bit of voltage, 5.5-6V, you can go up to 4-4.5ohms.

I tried a DCT (dual coil tank) system, which is like your lavatank, with a 1.5ohm Carto on my LavaTube and, just like I expected, it was a total fail.
A dual coil is probably not that good an idea either with the Lavatank.
Replace your carto with a 2.5-3ohm single coil carto. That will allow the greatest voltage range on the Lavatube.

The Lavatube, unlike the Provari, will limit your voltage, to prevent burning out your coil with a too high voltage.

Your 50/50 juice should be just fine. Don't thin it. You'll only weaken the strength and flavor before you notice any difference.

Go to Youtube or look here and find the review of the Lavatube by Pbusardo. He will explain the thing about Lavatube limiting your voltage. Many of the tanks like you got have a 1.5ohm carto. With the Lavatube, your voltage will be limited to about 3.7 and, with a dual coil, that is not enough power to get a good vape.

 

[LucentShadow]

Hi. I'd also recommend the 3 ohm single coil. They work fine, and are much less stressful to batteries than the 1.5 ohm dual coils.

Here's a quick run-down on the 3 choices of replacement tank cartos they offer:

1.5 ohm dual coil - has two 3 ohm coils in parallel, which gives an overall resistance of 1.5 ohms. These are designed for 3.7v devices with larger batteries, like the eGo styles. Cig-sized batteries will not handle these, but the LavaTube would.

3.0 ohm dual coil - presumably has two 6 ohm coils in parallel, which gives an overall resistance of 3 ohms. These would be designed for use at high voltage, like 6-7v, and would perform terribly at lower voltages. I've never bought one, though.

3.0 ohm single coil - just what it says. It will give adequate performance at 3.7v, but will work well at higher voltages.

I'd always keep at least a 5-pack of cartos as backup. when you get into that pack, it's time to order more.

Another thing that you may want to consider trying sometime, are these:

***New Version*** MAGMA Re-fillable MEGA-Clearomizer - 5 Pack

That is the larger of the two clearomizer offerings there. Their version of the CE2 clearomizers seem to get good reviews, too. They are a clear, tank-style cartomizer that can be made to last as long as an atomizer with some simple maintenance. I personally like these better than most anything. They have some useful info on it in their forums:

The Official Volcano E-Cigs Forum • Clearomizer Cleaning and Filling : Tutorials and Helpful Videos

Or, you can look up 'CE2 clearomizer' for related info elsewhere.

Good luck!

 

[ConcretHeaven]

Me 2 went from Magna to inferno. Great upgrade.

 

[ancient11]

Thanks so much, thats what I needed. Now I can order a 5 pack. I am covered as far as voltage goes for my last two orders came in. I should have been backing up what I had instead of ordering something I knew nothing about.
It seemed as though the more I learned, it seemed like I needed a different Product-- so I ordered the Buzz and then the Provari and they both have arrived.
I like the Buzz, but need to become more acquainted with it but I have noticed that when i unconsciously reach for something – it's always the lava tube.. Perhaps its because I am more acquainted with it.