Just saw this on MSN under Kids Health

[JackInCali]

Kids health? Really?

The New Joe Camel? E-Cigarette Ads Spook Anti-Smoking Activists - NBC News

I love the quote in this article:

“Just because a young person has a cell phone like an adult or holds down a job like an adult does not mean they are adults in terms of a mature brain,” Lonzer said. “That means they can’t make decisions like an adult and when they are exposed repeatedly to things that seem to be the social norm, trust me, they will try those things.”

Hmm.. Legally, 18 is considered an adult, but not for the decision to use e-cigarettes as a harm reduction tool, I guess lol

 

[irwink]

I saw it a minute ago on MSN. The propaganda campaign continues. Ignorant public hysteria continues to build. The campaign is working as intended.

 

[Vwman72]

The media is going to keep doing this kind of thing to try to turn the public against vaping unless we educate the masses and show them how much better than smoking it really is and show them how many people can quit harmful tobacco by using them.

 

[chesty]

Since vaping is for adults, ads should only be shown where only adults can see them. kids own phones these days, ah, it's a big slippery slope, parents should be bringing up their children, not the government, I don't know, I'm confused. I still don't see the point in showing ads to people that can't buy your product.

 

[Steamix]

Sorry, if people are old enough to get shipped halfway round the globe to get shot at, maimed and killed they're also old enough to decide for themselves a lot of other things.

So the brain keeps developing till early twenties.

Generally.

Seems in some peeps it never started developing in the first place.

 

[Vaslovik]

Well this is what they do when they are losing money and control. They want you smoking and buying Chantix and paying jacked up insurance premiums for that. Then too, if you quit smoking and start vaping instead, you will live longer and collect more social security, and they can't afford that so they would rather you die of lung cancer or emphysema. It's what they call looking at the big picture.

 

[Jman8]

“Just because a young person has a cell phone like an adult or holds down a job like an adult does not mean they are adults in terms of a mature brain,” Lonzer said. “That means they can’t make decisions like an adult and when they are exposed repeatedly to things that seem to be the social norm, trust me, they will try those things.”

This is ageism. And needs to be called out as such. While politically popular among a great many (so called) adults to engage in this form of ageism, it is incredibly poor rhetoric for public policy and discrimination that is so blatantly arbitrary. This quote exposes that arbitrariness. A 16 year old can apparently use a cell phone, hold down a job, drive a car, get into romantic/sexual relationships, be punished for their actions (and/or decisions). But when cause comes along that counters what segment of adult population doesn't want, the "immature brain" is propped up as reason to control the product in a very strict manner.

If this were done with any other segment of the population, it would be seen for what it is, prejudice. But kids are treated as 'little idiots' that can't speak for themselves and need misguided adults to do that.

I long for the day when this issue is aggressively dealt with as all other issues of prejudice have been. Until then, I am comfortable calling out these adults and their immature brain on this topic.

 

[Kent C]

"Researchers from RTI International found that kids aged 12 to 17 experienced a 256 percent increase in exposure to ads touting e-cigs during the study period of 2011 to 2013. The exposure of young adults, those ages 18-24, increased by 321 percent."

Could it be that there were very few ads for ecigs before 2011!!

 

[jdrewry]

I don't think I've seen 13 ads for e -cigs over the last 2-3 years, but I've lost count on how many Chantix commercials I've seen. I don't see commercials for mods, or coils, or MBV, or Ahlusion, or Nicoticket--but the few commercials I've seen have been for either Blu or King (you know, the companies owned by Big Tobacco)...

 

[AgentAnia]

"Researchers from RTI International found that kids aged 12 to 17 experienced a 256 percent increase in exposure to ads touting e-cigs during the study period of 2011 to 2013. The exposure of young adults, those ages 18-24, increased by 321 percent."

Could it be that there were very few ads for ecigs before 2011!!

... which I call "twististics."

 

[Stosh]

Those dang kids need to smoke for over 40 years like I did, they shouldn't be given an easy road to quitting smoking at so early an age. Give them a pathway to a long and healthy life, perish the thought.

What a bunch of totally short sighted bovine droppings.....

 

[rothenbj]

Kids health? Really?

The New Joe Camel? E-Cigarette Ads Spook Anti-Smoking Activists - NBC News

I love the quote in this article:

“Just because a young person has a cell phone like an adult or holds down a job like an adult does not mean they are adults in terms of a mature brain,” Lonzer said. “That means they can’t make decisions like an adult and when they are exposed repeatedly to things that seem to be the social norm, trust me, they will try those things.”

Hmm.. Legally, 18 is considered an adult, but not for the decision to use e-cigarettes as a harm reduction tool, I guess lol

Yes, they say these "children's" brains are not developed enough to make adult decisions until their early 20s. One must question a government that allows children as young as 17 to decide to put on a uniform and die for their country. This is a decision that may kill a "child" in months where smoking may take 60 years. I'm sure the morbidity and mortality rates for "children" soldiers would be statistically higher and significant over a 10 year period using the same age group of smokers as a control group.

 

[jpargana]

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If this were done with any other segment of the population, it would be seen for what it is, prejudice. But kids are treated as 'little idiots' that can't speak for themselves and need misguided adults to do that.

(...)

And if that was not bad enough, now even WE, independent adults, who have made a responsible, informed, ADULT decision are being treated like "no-so-little idiots" too... for the money.

Our choices are being challenged by "junk-science" / "near-science" by our nannying/bullying states. As if we needed ANY "guidance", especially coming from THERE...!

 

[Berylanna]

View attachment 342553... which I call "twististics."

There are lies, damned lies and statistics.

Mark Twain

 

[Vaslovik]

"Researchers from RTI International found that kids aged 12 to 17 experienced a 256 percent increase in exposure to ads touting e-cigs during the study period of 2011 to 2013. The exposure of young adults, those ages 18-24, increased by 321 percent."

Could it be that there were very few ads for ecigs before 2011!!

Er... where are the kids seeing these alleged ecig ads? Certainly not on TV. It's not like ecig ads are being shoved in their fresh little faces so where does RTI get this steaming pile of "facts"? I think they just make this stuff up.

 

[Berylanna]

Yes, they say these "children's" brains are not developed enough to make adult decisions until their early 20s. One must question a government that allows children as young as 17 to decide to put on a uniform and die for their country. This is a decision that may kill a "child" in months where smoking may take 60 years. I'm sure the morbidity and mortality rates for "children" soldiers would be statistically higher and significant over a 10 year period using the same age group of smokers as a control group.

No, that is handled. Exposure to IED's may well stop the brain development, so soldiers are not at risk for brain danger from e-cigarettes.