Kabuki problem. Need advice or comments

[Vaper Bob]

Hi all, I'm a newbie to vaping, just 3 weeks cigarette free after being a pack a day guy for far too many years. After getting the hang of it on a decent starter kit, I acquired a P3 with the bigger Nautilus and knew that my smoking days are most likely behind me. So I bought another P3 and this time with the P3 threaded Kabuki Tank. In spite of soaking the Aspire coils correctly (I think), I get a hot rubber taste from the same juice I use in the P3/Nautilus setup. I've changed coils twice, switched P3s etc and still the same result. Can you believe the Nautilus delivers a clean taste and the Kabuki doesn't! Ok, so today I washed the Kabuki out after taking it apart (all except the top which I can't pull apart from the glass) and setting the coil aside. After drying with paper towels and a hairdryer, I put it back together and put in a fresh coil for the third time. But first I dripped juice into those holes around the coil, and about 3 drops into the end. But this was no different than what I'd done with the previous coils. This time I let it stand 15 minutes and then took a vape at my usual 10 watts. The hot rubber taste returned. So I left it to soak for another two and a half hours (!) and turned the P3 down to 7 watts only. I've just started vaping it ever so gently and NO hot rubber taste........yet! I'm terrified of turning the watts up or taking a deep drag. Just feel that the hot rubber taste will return. Here's the thing: its not exactly like the dry burnt hit we're all used to. It's like hot rubber which I've not experienced before in my brief vaping career. Anyone have an explanation or comment? Would REALLY appreciate it.

 

[djsvapour]

I suspect you didn't quite soak the cotton wool enough.

People often talk about "letting it stand' and "pulling on it without firing" but I never do any of these things. I give it a crazy soaking and start it on low-ish power (8w, say)... Depending on your liquid, you can leave a BVC for hours in a tank and it might not fully saturate.

It's kind of tough to describe, but the beauty of the BVC is that they don't really flood unless you really irritate them with too low power and massive drags. This means the wicking is actually quite slow (you notice this the higher the VG) and unless you got it 100% saturated before vaping, it might not have taken the liquid fully.

Either that, or your tank is stifling the liquid flow.... which would be strange given it's a top product.

 

[SKYYcamel]

In my experience, the BVC coils have an off taste for the first full tank. Try to vape through it and see if it improves. I vape mine at 10 watts.

 

[Vaper Bob]

In my experience, the BVC coils have an off taste for the first full tank. Try to vape through it and see if it improves. I vape mine at 10 watts.

Thanks SKYYcamel. I also vape at 10W but right now its at 7W and the flavour is good. I'm going to take it slowly from here. your comment is encouraging and appreciated.

 

[Vaper Bob]

I suspect you didn't quite soak the cotton wool enough.

People often talk about "letting it stand' and "pulling on it without firing" but I never do any of these things. I give it a crazy soaking and start it on low-ish power (8w, say)... Depending on your liquid, you can leave a BVC for hours in a tank and it might not fully saturate.

It's kind of tough to describe, but the beauty of the BVC is that they don't really flood unless you really irritate them with too low power and massive drags. This means the wicking is actually quite slow (you notice this the higher the VG) and unless you got it 100% saturated before vaping, it might not have taken the liquid fully.

Either that, or your tank is stifling the liquid flow.... which would be strange given it's a top product.

Are you saying I should be taking large drags on low power in order to deliberately soak the wicking?

 

[djsvapour]

Are you saying I should be taking large drags on low power in order to deliberately soak the wicking?

No, not necessarily. You should be able to get the BVCs vaping good straight from the start, but they need more juice than people think and leaving them sitting often does nothing at all.
I left one overnight with 70% VG juice and it hadn't fully wicked...
However, thinking about it, drawing on it hard will pull the liquid through - this is often helped by covering most of the air hole as well.

My theory is if it's a little dry, drag it hard! If it's flooding, turn up the power.

if I think of anything else, I'll be back.

 

[Vaper Bob]

No, not necessarily. You should be able to get the BVCs vaping good straight from the start, but they need more juice than people think and leaving them sitting often does nothing at all.
I left one overnight with 70% VG juice and it hadn't fully wicked...
However, thinking about it, drawing on it hard will pull the liquid through - this is often helped by covering most of the air hole as well.

My theory is if it's a little dry, drag it hard! If it's flooding, turn up the power.

if I think of anything else, I'll be back.

Thank you. I do the unpowered drags with the air hole covered and it generally works.

 

[djsvapour]

I'm just disappointed for you @Vaper Bob - it should be a great tank and BVCs are usually excellent. I've been 'on' them for 1.5 years. Very few problems.

 

[r77r7r]

There is a big Kabushki thread here on ECF...

 

[classwife]

This would be the best place to get assistance :

Anybody Using A Kabuki?

 

[rhelton]

I think that is a machine oil taste. Try some dawn dish liquid it seems to work the best for me anyway.

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi all, I'm a newbie to vaping, just 3 weeks cigarette free after being a pack a day guy for far too many years. After getting the hang of it on a decent starter kit, I acquired a P3 with the bigger Nautilus and knew that my smoking days are most likely behind me. So I bought another P3 and this time with the P3 threaded Kabuki Tank. In spite of soaking the Aspire coils correctly (I think), I get a hot rubber taste from the same juice I use in the P3/Nautilus setup. I've changed coils twice, switched P3s etc and still the same result. Can you believe the Nautilus delivers a clean taste and the Kabuki doesn't! Ok, so today I washed the Kabuki out after taking it apart (all except the top which I can't pull apart from the glass) and setting the coil aside. After drying with paper towels and a hairdryer, I put it back together and put in a fresh coil for the third time. But first I dripped juice into those holes around the coil, and about 3 drops into the end. But this was no different than what I'd done with the previous coils. This time I let it stand 15 minutes and then took a vape at my usual 10 watts. The hot rubber taste returned. So I left it to soak for another two and a half hours (!) and turned the P3 down to 7 watts only. I've just started vaping it ever so gently and NO hot rubber taste........yet! I'm terrified of turning the watts up or taking a deep drag. Just feel that the hot rubber taste will return. Here's the thing: its not exactly like the dry burnt hit we're all used to. It's like hot rubber which I've not experienced before in my brief vaping career. Anyone have an explanation or comment? Would REALLY appreciate it.

Welcome to the forum!

I just got a Kabuki and so far have been vaping it at much lower power than my RBAs. It's been so long since I used a Nautilus that I don't remember if I could vape it higher.

I suggest you visit the ProVape forum. We have been discussing the Kabuki a lot, especially on the Radius thread. Zen (who makes the Kabuki) is very active and can answer your questions directly (if other members can't). Even though your question may have already been asked and answered, the thread is long, so just jump in and ask - we are nice.

Official ProVari Radius Thread

 

[WillyZee]

I think that is a machine oil taste. Try some dawn dish liquid it seems to work the best for me anyway.

not machine oil ... Kabukis are clean out of the box

 

[rhelton]

not machine oil ... Kabukis are clean out of the box

are they....I do like the looks of them. I am in the market for a MTL tank but I think I am going with the Pico.