Kamry k200, anyone have one yet?

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Well I just got my k200 black chrome flat top - full kit. I gotta say its really nice. I was a little worried, but I really like it so far everything works fine and it looks cool.

first impression.. Wow looks a lot smaller than I thought it was going to be.. The threads on the battery cap are butter smooth when you get them started. It looks to be all aluminum and very light. The X8 tank that came with it is heavier than the mod w/o battery. Seems well balanced with battery. The finish actually looks and feels nice. It's not Super shiny, it is probably more like a gun barrel. In different lighting looks kinda chocolate colored. I really like the micro grooves you can see from the lathing/ cnc machining. Put a kamry bat on charger and well couldn't wait.. Unwrapped the other and tried it.. Works, one bar on bat indicator functions fine.

I'm happy with it, admittedly this is my first mod, but it seems pretty good to me, build quality fit and finish is great for this price. I have no buyers remourse. It is one solid unit and the screen is Recessed. I really see no way to physically break this body. If you like how it looks it does deliver, it's not a bad unit if like the form factor it Works.

Ill follow up as I find out more and put it through its paces.
 

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Well I just got my k200 black chrome flat top - full kit. I gotta say its really nice. I was a little worried, but I really like it so far everything works fine and it looks cool.

Ill follow up as I find out more and put it through its paces.

I wish you the best of luck with yours, JR.
 

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Thanks 100, that's nice of you.

So first day going pretty good. It is considerably bigger than a riva/ego 650 obviously. The 18650 really adds the wieght. I'm rocking my new protank on it and I've been getting buzzed with the ample power. Made it a whole day, one completely full 2.5 ohm protank at about 4.3 volts or 8 watt setting, and still have one bar, battery meters at 3.6 volts 25hrs later.. Puff counter indicates 350 good long puffs. I would have charged a 650 4-5+ times due to voltage drop.

The finish is not "black chrome" at all, in dim lighting it looks it, it kinda changes colors at different angles and lighting. Which is pretty cool. Most times looks chocolate colored... The rattling buttons don't bother me at least their metal. The puff counter and settings are saved when you change the battery.

It does stand up very well and is stable. If it knocks over with a protank the protank is protected because of
The width of the k200. It's got a nice grip for sure and is a joy to use. I hear no rattle snake effect at all, it sounds just like the
Ego to me.

It does seem to put out less power at 3v setting. Noticeably less amount of vapor. I would like to see pbusardo get this on the oscilloscope.

Here is a crappy iPhone pic of it next to a 650 with my girls evod
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Hi JR,

I kept seeing you say Flat Top. Nice picture. It looks like a cross between a Vamo V2 and a Tesla. I did not see a Flat Top model while I was looking.

I know what you mean about the Colors. Mine is Chrome, but I couldn't tell that the Buttons were Gold until I got it in Sunlight while Driving.

If you want to Reset the Puff Counter, the K200 will forget that and the VV or VW setting if you leave the Battery out for a little while. Not sure exactly how long, but 10 seconds isn't enough.

I just learned something from a Video I found on your Flat Top. You know that if you click the Power Button 3 times, it will show the ohms. If you click it again while ohms are displayed, it will show the Battery Charge Voltage.

Unfortunately, mine is even worse today. For some reason, the Cartomizers for a Glass Tube Carto Tank I have (both were given to me) will change ohms as they get older. They start out at about 2.6Ω and go UP until the ohms are too high for the VTube or the K200. They usually don't stop working until 4.5Ω, but as the ohms rise, I have to crank up the Voltage to keep the same Vape. My K200 will not Fire over 5V now when a Carto gets to 3.5Ω. It started last night after changing a Battery. This really Bites. These Cartos will usually hit 4.5Ω in 3 days, so now I can even use one that long. I'll get some good Cartos, but my K200 just keeps getting worse.

It is working OK with a 2.1Ω Clearomizer, for now anyway.

I really need my VTube back. I can't use my AGA-T2 at 2Ω (after about 20 Puffs, the K200 stops working), and now I can't use a Carto Tank very long. Now I Really wish I'd bought a Vamo V2.

I really hope yours is Better for you. No one deserves to go through this. I'm going to call my Vendor on Monday.
 
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Bat voltage..Oh cool let me see, oh wow it does. 2.6 ohms and 4.1 v on this battery, about right.
I think it's around 10 seconds that it saves the setting left one out for A While and it did reset. Locking it resets everything too which yeah doesn't make sense.

I made it through a protank and a half with the kamry battery 29 hours total still read one bar on battery but was flashing.

Vtube - Are you talking about a lava tube type from apollo? don't they have a 2.5-3amp limit?


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Vtube - Are you talking about a lava tube type from apollo? don't they have a 2.5-3amp limit?

It's from Apollo, but it's called a VTube (see my signature picture). I don't know anything about the Lava Tube, but they may be similar. I just looked at some pictures, and they do look much the same. It does have a 2.5A Limit, but it goes up to 12W or maybe 15W. I don't usually Vape over 10W, so it's great for me. 4.5V on a 1.8 Coil would draw 2.5A at 11.25W. If I could wrap a 2.3Ω Coil on my AGA-T2, then 2.5A at 5.2V would be 11.75W. I don't think I'd need that much Power to satisfy me.




The GotVapes Video is the one I saw that talked about seeing the remaining Battery Charge.
 

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Ok some quirks, just ran my next battery down it lasted over a day. The battery voltage test on device does read 3.6 v. Tested with cheape gb multi, 10v setting reads 3.6 / 9v setting reads 3.2... Well not sure which is accurate but I hear that running battery too low is bad for it. Maybe the high cut off will extend battery life?

Replaced the battery and bat gauge still read one bar but volt test read 4.2.. Well must need to reset it.. Left battery out for 30 seconds and whala everything back to normal.. Full bat gauge..

I wonder what us company they got this chip from?
 
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Ok some quirks, just ran my next battery down it lasted over a day. The battery voltage test on device does read 3.6 v. Tested with cheape gb multi, 10v setting reads 3.6 / 9v setting reads 3.2... Well not sure which is accurate but I hear that running battery too low is bad for it. Maybe the high cut off will extend battery life?

Replaced the battery and bat gauge still read one bar but volt test read 4.2.. Well must need to reset it.. Left battery out for 30 seconds and whala everything back to normal.. Full bat gauge..

I wonder what us company they got this chip from?

You're right about not discharging a Lithium-based Battery too far. But usually 3.3V is considered Low enough to Recharge it.

I think that Powering it OFF will reset the Power Meter you. It did on mine last night.

As far as the Chip goes, there are chips, and there are Chips. Variable Voltage depends on a DC to DC Converter, which normally uses PWM, Pulse Width Modulation. There are different Frequencies that can be used, and My understanding is that a Higher Frequency gives a better Quality DC Output. There are also different Types of DC to DC Converters, and different types of Modulation. There are Buck Converters that can output a Voltage or Lower, Boost Converters that can output a Voltage or Higher, and Buck-Boost Converters that can output a Voltage either Above or Below the supplied Voltage, with possibly different Kinds of Modulations for each, as well as possibly different Speeds of Modulation.

The Vamo V2 (among others) can supply AVG or RMS, so these are two types of Modulation. RMS (Root Mean Square) is much better than AVG (Average). RMS is closer to True DC. AVG is more effected by the Battery's decreases in Voltage. There are other differences.

So it doesn't matter if the chip is made in the USA, and as much it is the Quality of that chip that matters. Everything else about the K200 is so Cheap, the chip is probably a bottom-of-the-barrel chip as well.

My K200 will not work above 8 Watts on the VW settings now, on a 2.7Ω Cartomizer. It will not Fire at 9W. It's on its last leg after only 10 days of use.

Again, I really hope you have better luck with yours.
 
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Don't know when -- he just mentioned it during the last VapeTeam episode, that he was currently testing it for review. If I see it posted, I'll let you know.

If you subscribe to his channel, ask him to do another one after 2 weeks of heavy use. Please.

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I'd also be curious to know if he is reviewing it independently, or as a gift from a vendor, or if he's trying to sell them.
 
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Vapeteam live is going to be talking about the k200 tonight, Amanda is hosting.:)

So I'm going on week 3 with the k200 its all good though it does have its quarks and limits. I would say its an industrial looking type mod which I like. The finish is holding up well my 3 yr old threw it down on the side walk on second day and has just a couple nicks but the finish it holding tight. I intentionally scratched it to see if the finish would chip off. It didn't.

On to some quirks. It will not fire when battery gets to 3.6 its done. I get about 300 puffs, off the cheap kamry 18650 that came with it, and it lasts me all day. 7am-11pm 2.4 ohm at 4.5 volts give or take depending. It does noticeably start to lose some capability when it gets to 3.7, like the amp limit is reduced. It doesn't want to fire in the higher range at that point. Running a 2.1ohms today and at 3.7 bat voltage It started to not want to fire above 4.5. Which was ok don't really need it that high all the time, power/amp limit continues to weaken till the 3.6 cut off. When the battery is above 4 it has no problem bumping out 6volts. So totally usable and better than say egos.

I still like it, the design is cool and I'm not having any troubles using it. It lasts me through the day and that's all I wanted.

When you change the battery you have to reset it or the battery readings will be off and it wont work right. Pull the battery hold the fire button for 10 seconds to clear the memory and your good to go. Starts over again. When changing settings the fire button kind of acts like a return button to get you out of the selected option right away to select another.

I actually like the color options. The red is the least brightness at night.

One nice thing about the single button change for vv vw is you can have 2 settings one normal, one high and change with one click of a button as needed.

It's serving its purpose for me and if you like the design it is what it is.

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That is a good review. I have noticed most of those same things. I dropped mine on concrete as well. I got my 2nd one and the top connector is a bit crooked. I thought I would stick a screwdriver in there and straighten it out. It won't move. The casing is robust. One of my favorite things about it is the weight. I can front-pocket it and not notice the weight so much.
 

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JR,

If you get some "True" Panasonic IMR 2250 mAh 18650's (never any batteries at all from eBay!!!), I think you'd get more performance out of them. The Vendor I bought my K200 from said that he didn't sell the Kit because people had too much trouble with the Kit's Batteries. I bought four Panasonics from Orbtronic with Free S&H for less than you can get two of them elsewhere.

That 4.5V limitation was what bothered me the most. The Cartos I had been using in my Glass Carto Tank would change ohms from 2.6Ω to over 3.5Ω. They quit working in most PVs at 3.5Ω. I vape Cinnamon Red Hots at 4.3V in that Glass Tank to get the Flavor out of it. With the Cartos going above 3.5Ω in only 3 days on me to begin with, I could only use that K200 with them for just over a single day. I wasn't able to gauge the Panasonics with the K200, but I think a better quality Battery would probably help you there.

I also bought a pila IBC Charger for the 4 Panasonics from ProVape. I found it the cheapest there, and the order was processed and shipped immediately, as was my Orbtronic order. It's about the best Charger money can buy, and it will charge 2 batteries independently. I don't think I'd trust the Charger that came with your Kit to begin with, and you're having said it takes so long to charge your batteries, I have to recommend the pila IBC to you.

I hope this helps.

BTW:
My Vendor is sending me a Replacement K200. It will ship today. I hope this one works better than the first one. Yup, it took them that long, but this includes the time to get the replacement actually approved and time for mine to get to them. At least it's on the way now.

Good Luck to both of us.
 

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Hey 100 good to see your still hangin around. Yeah I'm sure a good 18650 would be better. Figure it would last longer. I did run one out by 7 pm cracking it at 15 watts a lot. Try to power vape through a flooding protank.. lol. The kit bats and charger are ok and will serve me till next month when I open up my budget for new stuff. DIY gear is on the budget this month. Sounds like you've got some top notch bat stuff. I wonder how much of the amp limitation is actually from the crappy kit batteries. Maybe it will be a little stronger with better batteries.

Wow they are sending you a new one.. I wonder if it will be any better.

Look at your earlier post about it firing at 9 watts on a 2.7ohm. Was your bat gauge right? If its not reset to full it doesn't work right. But you probably know that... Right now my bat is at 3.9v with a 2.3 ohm coil I can vape to the cut off at 15 watts, but will only let me vape it to cut off @ a high of 5.3volts at this bat level. Indicating The amp limit has dropped to 2.3 amps if I understand correctly. So whether this is the battery it's self or the k200, not sure thinking its the
K200.

To a previous poster shaamt, you were correct it stops firing when the battery voltage get to 3.6 v I guess I have taken this as a nature of the beast type of thing. Anyone have one that makes it below 3.6?

One other thing... This has never tipped over on me .. thing stands like its got 2 feet! Exactly what I wanted.
 
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