Kanger Subtank Mini or Eleaf Lemo 2

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I followed the threads in this forum for a couple weeks, and had narrowed it down to the "Nautilus" and the "Sub tank mini". I got the Sub tank mini about two weeks ago and love it! One week ago I got the nautilus for my wife and I think its probably a great tank, but wife set it down the second day and has been contently tokin away on an older kanger aero v2, lol.

No matter which one you decide on there will be some learning involved. I like the STM mainly because it comes with an RBA so you can build and wick your own coils, and when you do everything right, the flavor is amazing!

ETA: there is also a subox mini out, which appears to be a starter kit which uses the Kanger sub tank mini.
 

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I have the Lemo 2, Lemo 1, Lemo Drop, and Kanger Subtank Mini. For a beginner, the Subtank is a win because you can build or not... The Lemo - any one of them - will require you to build. No coil head is available.

If, on the other hand, you like the Atlantis style vape... The Anyvape Furytank has top fill, and an RBA deck, and takes Atlantis coils.
 
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I've got both and they're both good tanks.

The lemo has a good top fill and lots of building space. I think wicking it is actually really easy. The coil holes for the leads are tiny, so any big builds have to be trapped under the screws. Airflow is better than the kanger. Don't like the stock drip tip, but that's an easy fix. Pretty good flavor too.

The kanger has a great little build deck, and the screws can capture some big builds. Wicking is also easy, my only complaints with the kanger is how high the wicking holes are and how the airflow only has fixed choices.

Overall my subtank gets used more. I like the lemo more, but the subtank is such a breeze to rebuild I have a hard time putting it down!
 
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I would take a Crown over an STM ( I have both). The pre-maid coils are nice, if that is your thing (not mine). The RBA section is basically the STM deck, so it's easy to build, but it's even easier to work with because it just pulls apart ( I used to cut my fingers unscrewing the STM chimney base V1, V2 needs a screwdriver I think). Also, it has better flavor (might be subjective) and more air ( I keep it on the lowest setting, I mouth-to-lung mostly). And, thanks to the little pedestal the drip tip rests on, the tank portion doesn't annoyingly touch my chin as I vape ( like the STM does).

A con for me is that the deck is so tiny that it's difficult to fit a long coil in there because you have to bend the legs back to meet the screws. My build is only about 6 wraps 26G spaced and that seems to be the limit because my legs are just about touching the next wrap. If I want to build higher I guess I should switch to a different gauge. How do people even build it with long Ni coils?? I wish they would offset the screws a bit for the next version.

I gave up on the top filling. I was getting too many leaks and/or gurgling, and it just wasn't worth the hassle considering you have the option to bottom fill. Honestly, if it weren't for that option, I probably would have given up on it.

I have never owned a Lemo 2, but I give a major thumbs up for the Lemo Drop (and still my favorite).
 

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I would take a Crown over an STM ( I have both). The pre-maid coils are nice, if that is your thing (not mine). The RBA section is basically the STM deck, so it's easy to build, but it's even easier to work with because it just pulls apart ( I used to cut my fingers unscrewing the STM chimney base V1, V2 needs a screwdriver I think). Also, it has better flavor (might be subjective) and more air ( I keep it on the lowest setting, I mouth-to-lung mostly). And, thanks to the little pedestal the drip tip rests on, the tank portion doesn't annoyingly touch my chin as I vape ( like the STM does).

A con for me is that the deck is so tiny that it's difficult to fit a long coil in there because you have to bend the legs back to meet the screws. My build is only about 6 wraps 26G spaced and that seems to be the limit because my legs are just about touching the next wrap. If I want to build higher I guess I should switch to a different gauge. How do people even build it with long Ni coils?? I wish they would offset the screws a bit for the next version.

I gave up on the top filling. I was getting too many leaks and/or gurgling, and it just wasn't worth the hassle considering you have the option to bottom fill. Honestly, if it weren't for that option, I probably would have given up on it.

I have never owned a Lemo 2, but I give a major thumbs up for the Lemo Drop (and still my favorite).

Curious if the Crown can be built well for tootle puffing? I'm trying to help people make the switch to rebuilding as the Tootle crowd isn't seeing much in the way of new gear for them that use factory coils.
 

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    I have both (STM and Lemo2) and both can be good for different things.

    The STM has a swappable deck so you can use prebuilt atomizers or wind your own. A quick shopping trip to FT or other websites allows you to stock up on your own prewound setups. There is a Black topfill aftermarket option for the STM which works fairly well. I debate if I like the new deck (with the two holes) or the older one with the ittybity slots. Both are functional. The major drawbacks on the STM are deck size and air flow.

    While a very large (and very useless to me) coil is preinstalled, on the Lemo's your going to have to build something. The top fill works well, the deck is HUGE compared to the STM and you have two options for securing the coil ends. I've stuffed two Ni and Ti coils in my Lemo2's just for fun - something that would be a real challenge on the STM. I use a syringe to drain the tank when working on the deck - no big deal.

    Needless to say but should be pointed out - larger coil surface area equates to more vapor production. I've fitted tiny coils in both and the Lemo2 gives you the option of fitting rather large coils. The STM might suit a "beginner" better as extra decks are easily swapped so going from 'experimental' to 'production take along vaping' is very easy. Personally I solve that problem with having a few dozen tanks. ;)

    I'd say get one of each and decide for yourself which one you like better!
     

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    Curious if the Crown can be built well for tootle puffing? I'm trying to help people make the switch to rebuilding as the Tootle crowd isn't seeing much in the way of new gear for them that use factory coils.

    It can probably work. I'm pushing the limit with my set-up (26G, 3mm ID). I can't seem to go higher than 0.3-0.4 Ohms (6ish wraps). I'm sure if you went to a light gauge it could work. Again, I'm using spaced coils, and you could obviously squeeze in a couple of wraps more if you build contacts.

    According to Coil Toy calculator, 28G at 3mm ID is only 7 wraps to get 1.4 Ohms. At 30G, 3mm it's 6 wraps to get 1.8 Ohms. These figures are for Kanthal, btw.

    I'm really curious if people are doing Ni coils in these things.
     
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