Kanthal Ribbon Wire

[gdeal]

Thanks for the intro to ribbon kanthal Odysseus,
Just found out a week ago we could actually do the 'twisted kanthal' (shelving the resistance by half) and 2x the surface coverge of the mesh by 'Folding'' the 0.4mm into 2 equal length before tightening the folded corner the negative post and coil-spread it on the mesh.

Twisted round Kanthal can double your surface area but lowers your resistance. Ribbon wire kanthal provide ~50% more surface area per distance of wire than round with the same resistance. You also have less mass to heat. One trade off with Ribbon is that you dont get the amount of space between wraps which could effect the vape, ...(but that may just be splitting hairs).

I just noticed the file name of your picture...lol

So how does it vape?

 

[NamVet68]

Subscribing....

 

[ebrown8]

here u goes:

 

[gdeal]

Thanks for the intro to ribbon kanthal Odysseus,
Just found out a week ago we could actually do the 'twisted kanthal' (shelving the resistance by half) and 2x the surface coverge of the mesh by 'Folding'' the 0.4mm into 2 equal length before tightening the folded corner the negative post and coil-spread it on the mesh.

@mob1900

I just realized that you arent "twisting" the wire, you are running two strands in parallel. Very Nice.

 

[TheRem]

How about just mesh?

From a UK site.

Could you post the link of the UK site? Thanks.

 

[gdeal]

Could you post the link of the UK site? Thanks.

I believe this is the site: Did Coil Stainless steel

Interesting as well: Google Translate

 

[jonbkk]

My current set-up is in a Cobra with a 1.1 ohm coil using an un-oxidized wick consisting of 40mm of #500 (.025mm wire with ~26% open space) wrapped around 40mm of #200 (.028mm wire with ~60% open space) mesh rolled tight.

Could you explain why you use #200 inside of the #500? When I bought some mesh from The Mesh Company they sent me a free peice with my order of #400 I think it's probably around #200, should i use that in my wicks?

 

[gdeal]

The #200 I used has very open porosity. Its as thin as the #500, but you can see clear through. I use the #200 because it provides a greater juice reserve in the wick and has less mass for heat sink. It also provides a balance between great capillary action of #500 (which is needed to keep the wick wet in a vertical position), but the #200 helps keep up with juice demands when vaping. I vape more at a 75-85 degree angle, so I need flow more than I need capillary action when vaping. The #500 is a better surface for vaporization, that's why it goes on the outside. I did not optimize ratios of #500 to #200, I think I just did a 50/50 mix and it worked really well, so I stayed with that. This works well for smaller wick holes like the one in the Cobra.

If you have the #200 material, why not try it with your #400?

 

[JPG1911]

i have been using a ribbon wire coil on my AGA-T for 2 days now. I love it. I have been exposed to some really advanced stuff during my relatively short time as a vaper, sometimes I feel like I'm moving through this stuff too fast and not really having a chance to "get to know" one particular setup before moving on to the next thing. I have a naturally very strong mechanical aptitude and love learning new things, but one thing I have learned over the last two months, is that trying new things within this new hobby is expensive! My wife informed me this morning that I have actually spent more on vaping supplies so far this month than the last month I smoked! All that said just to say this - the ribbon wire is cool, but i see no reason to switch from round kanthal unless you just want to say you tried something different and can afford to buy new toys.

After the two new mods I just ordered come in, I'm going to have to slow down on my spending and just spend a few months "getting to know" the drawer-full of equipment I already have, lol

 

[kimbo55]

i have been using a ribbon wire coil on my AGA-T for 2 days now. I love it. I have been exposed to some really advanced stuff during my relatively short time as a vaper, sometimes I feel like I'm moving through this stuff too fast and not really having a chance to "get to know" one particular setup before moving on to the next thing. I have a naturally very strong mechanical aptitude and love learning new things, but one thing I have learned over the last two months, is that trying new things within this new hobby is expensive! My wife informed me this morning that I have actually spent more on vaping supplies so far this month than the last month I smoked! All that said just to say this - the ribbon wire is cool, but i see no reason to switch from round kanthal unless you just want to say you tried something different and can afford to buy new toys.

After the two new mods I just ordered come in, I'm going to have to slow down on my spending and just spend a few months "getting to know" the drawer-full of equipment I already have, lol

You told my story from last summer when I started vaping. Wives are a good for pointing out glitches in our obssesions.

 

[CEFishin]

i have been using a ribbon wire coil on my AGA-T for 2 days now. I love it. I have been exposed to some really advanced stuff during my relatively short time as a vaper, sometimes I feel like I'm moving through this stuff too fast and not really having a chance to "get to know" one particular setup before moving on to the next thing. I have a naturally very strong mechanical aptitude and love learning new things, but one thing I have learned over the last two months, is that trying new things within this new hobby is expensive! My wife informed me this morning that I have actually spent more on vaping supplies so far this month than the last month I smoked! All that said just to say this - the ribbon wire is cool, but i see no reason to switch from round kanthal unless you just want to say you tried something different and can afford to buy new toys.

After the two new mods I just ordered come in, I'm going to have to slow down on my spending and just spend a few months "getting to know" the drawer-full of equipment I already have, lol

I hate it so much I try not to vape around her.

 

[Kemosabe]

The #200 I used has very open porosity. Its as thin as the #500, but you can see clear through. I use the #200 because it provides a greater juice reserve in the wick and has less mass for heat sink. It also provides a balance between great capillary action of #500 (which is needed to keep the wick wet in a vertical position), but the #200 helps keep up with juice demands when vaping. I vape more at a 75-85 degree angle, so I need flow more than I need capillary action when vaping. The #500 is a better surface for vaporization, that's why it goes on the outside. I did not optimize ratios of #500 to #200, I think I just did a 50/50 mix and it worked really well, so I stayed with that. This works well for smaller wick holes like the one in the Cobra.

If you have the #200 material, why not try it with your #400?

all ive got is #400 and #500. would i see any benefit from comining those two in a wick?

 

[gdeal]

all ive got is #400 and #500. would i see any benefit from comining those two in a wick?

#400 has about 36% open space, #500 has about 26% open space. I dont think you would really notice a difference.